EPTRandom gold-digging whore replied... You called her out for being a random gold-digging whore, no punches pulled.
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
Random gold-digging whore replied... You called her out for being a random gold-digging whore, no punches pulled. Well played. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
and the dialogue when I met her: | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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BestZergOnEast
Canada358 Posts
me hey her hey me introduce my friend : (probably a mistake already... we are already on boring dull topic, how many times has this already happened in her life. I do like opening hey, because it's way to needy to open something way more interesting. OTOH I should be a selfless giver when it comes to emotional value and the interaction so maybe I should rethink this). And hey limits the interaction although if you open with something awesome after hey it doesn't matter too much. anyway i don't really need her to do anything but respond to continue. them blah blah blah her asks my name I hesitate... give it to her again this is bad. another reason why introducing my friend stat was a mistake. it's really tough to open a girl w/ a friend right beside you perhaps for this reason. I don't know. I usually open on my own. ANYWAY. I guess what I should have done in retrospect was bringing my friend several meters away, telling him to hold on and then going and opening her. ok. the reason why it's bad is two fold... name conversations are BORING and be one common IOI is her asking your name, now that's out so you will have to watch for other signs for when u should attempt to get private and k close. so i tell her about my passion for billy joel and say I am the worlds greatest billy joel fanatic. She then comes over the top by telling a story about how she went to a billy joel concert and there was a guy there who knew everything about billy joel. At this point I conceded that i might not be the world's biggest billy joel fanatic, which was also a HUGE mistake. In retrospect I should have came over the top w/ more value, something like 'you know what I would do if we were at a billy joel concert? I would pick you up and toss you into the mosh pit to crowd serf and be groped by concert goers'. It's possible this is slightly too long (have to stay under 10 seconds while building attraction) but it would A) return more emotional value / set myself as the dominant one B) bring out sexual thoughts in her building attraction C) create dramatic conflict between us and D) is somewhat edgy. Ez to think of these things after the fact! Note this is a response to a challenge by her, not something you can just randomly say - in essence she has called me on my challenging me and attempting to steal control of the frame and I am bitch slapping her down. After this we talked aimlessly about billy joel's music named some songs... I did no kino, which is death, and then ejected, which would have been a good play if I had ejected to go approach other women but instead I hung around with some friends like a beta male. I blame the alcohol. Much easier to game sober. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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BestZergOnEast
Canada358 Posts
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Canada358 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
Mehow is a fraud and is the laughing stock within the pickup community. | ||
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BestZergOnEast
Canada358 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
2. I intern for a guy who used to be an instructor for Mehow. He tells me personally that Mehow does not get laid. | ||
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Colbert
Canada148 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
This is the girl ![[image loading]](http://i41.tinypic.com/ot3e4p.jpg) I message blasted the opener as a joke just to see what happens (this is not a good first message btw).... she responds. ![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/97i448.jpg) It actually goes strong. I teaser her, it continues. She kind of qualifies her self saying black girls aren't ghetto. ![[image loading]](http://i40.tinypic.com/30lifkn.jpg) I find out shes really a model and not fake. Did a Google image search, and this pops up. http://www.modelmayhem.com/413277 I get too excited lol and here is where it goes down hill. I qualify myself, kind of brag, and I show her way too much interest. I didn't tease enough.... she finds out I'm not a challenge, and goes to bed. So fucking gay. ![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/w5jma.jpg) Moral of the story. The hotter the girl. If she is a model, don't treat her special. In fact teaser her harder and don't show so much interest right away or she will find you too easy. You have to tease her to the borderline but then back off.... and that takes calibration... | ||
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Rodimus Prime
182 Posts
On December 08 2011 18:22 squattincassanova wrote:Moral of the story. The hotter the girl. If she is a model, don't treat her special. In fact teaser her harder and don't show so much interest right away or she will find you too easy. You have to tease her to the borderline but then back off.... and that takes calibration... First of all she's not hot, a 5/10, 6 at most... Secondly... You tried too hard to be funny throughout the entire conversation, as a result you never sparked any attraction in the first place and she merely saw you as a clown to have a bit of a laugh with. And the phone thing came out of nowhere - you have to get an IOI from her first before you can start talking about that. There's the saying: "You're either the hunter or the hunted." Don't be the one to chase her, frame it so that she ends up being the one who's chasing you and asking for your phone number. You're right about the last part, how you tease her then back off. Hope the next one goes well. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On December 08 2011 22:27 Rodimus Prime wrote: First of all she's not hot, a 5/10, 6 at most... Secondly... You tried too hard to be funny throughout the entire conversation, as a result you never sparked any attraction in the first place and she merely saw you as a clown to have a bit of a laugh with. And the phone thing came out of nowhere - you have to get an IOI from her first before you can start talking about that. There's the saying: "You're either the hunter or the hunted." Don't be the one to chase her, frame it so that she ends up being the one who's chasing you and asking for your phone number. You're right about the last part, how you tease her then back off. Hope the next one goes well. Ha! Okay mister high standard internet self proclaimed PU master. Yep, shes absolutely a 5. Aka, every 10 girls you meet, five of them are equal or hotter. ![[image loading]](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/GApump/fugly.jpg) | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
We have become far too cold and scientific in our relationships. Which is ironic, considering how "open" and "free" we are nowadays. How many of your grandfathers would ever have sought advice on how to pick up chicks from a complete stranger? Not trying to put anyone down, but the fact is: this generation is socially inept. Blame it on the schools or the cell-phones or the video games; but whatever it is, it's bad. It's so bad, in fact, that you have people like these PUA who sell millions of books by mixing fact and fiction: Fact: (most) Women like guys who are comfortable with themselves. Fiction: Women are so intolerant to shyness that they will run screaming into the night because you happened to get sweaty hands or showed a bit of nervousness that wasn't entirely feigned. Fact: (most) Women like to be teased, played with, etc. Fiction: Women will point and laugh at the idiot who keeps his hands to himself and is respectful. Fact: (most) Women are a bit insecure. Fiction: Women all have such ridiculous daddy-issues that a guy who treats them like "shit" is good to go. Fact: Attraction is a thing that can be figured out. Fiction: Attraction is a thing that can be boiled down to preset basics that one can learn and practice without actually going out and doing any of it. Fact: Learning how to deal with rejection is healthy and can make you more confident in the future. Fiction: Learning how to deal with rejection is so important that you have to try to pick up thirty women a night, with the same stupid line, so that you can "up your confidence". More like "get used to being rejected", which is not exactly healthy or useful. Fact: Girls are sometimes attracted to dude's who treat them like crap Fiction: Women are attracted to dude's that treat them like crap and hate men who treat them well. And there is my problem with this kind of thing. They take common sense and common knowledge and they try to add in some "Easy 5 step program" that will supposedly turn some unconfident noob into a Casanova in six months. Problem is: women aren't robots and neither are men. What turns on one woman may turn off another. What really annoys one girl may endear you to another. The problem is that these guys will try their "game" on 700 chicks, and declare that it's full-proof because ten out of those seven hundred actually took them up on it. Never mind the fact that 690 of those women think you're a creep or a loser, never mind that 5 out of the 10 that it did work on are actually playing you, not the other way around; never mind that the other 5 probably have emotional issues beyond falling for a practiced shpeel from a playbook used by seven million other men; and most importantly, never mind that it is ALL based on hook-ups and probably results in a lasting relationship, what? Maybe two out of a million times? Fck trying that hard for one night of impassionate sex with someone who is probably just bored and horny. If I wanted that I would find a hooker. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On December 09 2011 03:03 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: My personal opinion is this: We have become far too cold and scientific in our relationships. Which is ironic, considering how "open" and "free" we are nowadays. How many of your grandfathers would ever have sought advice on how to pick up chicks from a complete stranger? Not trying to put anyone down, but the fact is: this generation is socially inept. Blame it on the schools or the cell-phones or the video games; but whatever it is, it's bad. It's so bad, in fact, that you have people like these PUA who sell millions of books by mixing fact and fiction: Fact: (most) Women like guys who are comfortable with themselves. Fiction: Women are so intolerant to shyness that they will run screaming into the night because you happened to get sweaty hands or showed a bit of nervousness that wasn't entirely feigned. Fact: (most) Women like to be teased, played with, etc. Fiction: Women will point and laugh at the idiot who keeps his hands to himself and is respectful. Fact: (most) Women are a bit insecure. Fiction: Women all have such ridiculous daddy-issues that a guy who treats them like "shit" is good to go. Fact: Attraction is a thing that can be figured out. Fiction: Attraction is a thing that can be boiled down to preset basics that one can learn and practice without actually going out and doing any of it. Fact: Learning how to deal with rejection is healthy and can make you more confident in the future. Fiction: Learning how to deal with rejection is so important that you have to try to pick up thirty women a night, with the same stupid line, so that you can "up your confidence". More like "get used to being rejected", which is not exactly healthy or useful. Fact: Girls are sometimes attracted to dude's who treat them like crap Fiction: Women are attracted to dude's that treat them like crap and hate men who treat them well. And there is my problem with this kind of thing. They take common sense and common knowledge and they try to add in some "Easy 5 step program" that will supposedly turn some unconfident noob into a Casanova in six months. Problem is: women aren't robots and neither are men. What turns on one woman may turn off another. What really annoys one girl may endear you to another. The problem is that these guys will try their "game" on 700 chicks, and declare that it's full-proof because ten out of those seven hundred actually took them up on it. Never mind the fact that 690 of those women think you're a creep or a loser, never mind that 5 out of the 10 that it did work on are actually playing you, not the other way around; never mind that the other 5 probably have emotional issues beyond falling for a practiced shpeel from a playbook used by seven million other men; and most importantly, never mind that it is ALL based on hook-ups and probably results in a lasting relationship, what? Maybe two out of a million times? Fck trying that hard for one night of impassionate sex with someone who is probably just bored and horny. If I wanted that I would find a hooker. You are just spouting out generalities. Really doesn't proof anything. I could say that about any topic, sport, area of anything. Basktball. Fact: You have to workout Fiction: You have to be black Fact: You have to be able to shoot well. Fiction: You have to be the best dunker there is. See, I can copy you about any topic. Doesn't mean you are a master at the topic or know anything really. I approached 2000 women this year and my lay count is only in the double digits. If you look at it purely from a % perspective, its horrible. Its like less than 1%. You could be like Squattincassanova, you only slept with 1 out of 100 girls you talk to, your game sucks! But if you compare the audio conversations a year ago vs now.... its night and day. I can now hold conversations for HOURS. I know how to touch girls without weirding them out. My humor is funnier, I know when to pull triggers. Whenever you learn something new, you are always going to appear clumbsy and try hard. Its new, its not natural. If someone told you to do a new yoga pose, you would look lame and try hard too. But who cares? Who cares about the other 690 girls think? You aren't going to marry them, you probably wont ever see them again. You learned off them and that's really all that it matters. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
You say your "number" is in the double digits? Do you ever think of the possibility that a lot of people think that is gross? Not trying to be mean, but I wouldn't want anything to do with someone who has slept with that many people. They are WAY more likely to be diseased, WAY more likely to have emotional and commitment issues, WAY more likely to result in drama... Coupled with the fact that you say you've approached over 2000 women. That is close to ten women a night. Not one of those women noticed that you were hitting on nine other women at the same time? Or did 99/100 of them notice and instantly become turned off? I'm really not trying to be mean here, but let's be honest: approaching 2000 women is excessive; and it smacks of desperation. Furthermore, you missed the point of the "fact v fiction" part of my post. The things I am positing as fact, well... they are facts. The things I am positing as fiction are the exact type of things that are peddled by these PUA people as "scientific truth". I'm not an expert on PUA because I don't care about "picking up". If I like a girl, I'm not gonna try to hide it behind some false bravado, or any of that nonsense. I'm gonna go talk to her, make my attraction plain, and straight up ask her when I feel like it. If she rejects, whatever, if she doesn't, cool. I don't need a book or a PUA to tell me how to do that. No one needs that crap. Let's put it this way: Your a hot chick and you've got one guy who is just being himself, and another guy who is reading off a script that he's practiced on seven other girls that night. Which one do you think has the advantage here? | ||
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
On December 09 2011 03:30 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: I honestly could care less about how often you sleep with women or how many you get. That isn't the point. Wait... actually that is the point: You say your "number" is in the double digits? Do you ever think of the possibility that a lot of people think that is gross? Not trying to be mean, but I wouldn't want anything to do with someone who has slept with that many people. They are WAY more likely to be diseased, WAY more likely to have emotional and commitment issues, WAY more likely to result in drama... Coupled with the fact that you say you've approached over 2000 women. That is close to ten women a night. Not one of those women noticed that you were hitting on nine other women at the same time? Or did 99/100 of them notice and instantly become turned off? I'm really not trying to be mean here, but let's be honest: approaching 2000 women is excessive; and it smacks of desperation. Furthermore, you missed the point of the "fact v fiction" part of my post. The things I am positing as fact, well... they are facts. The things I am positing as fiction are the exact type of things that are peddled by these PUA people as "scientific truth". I'm not an expert on PUA because I don't care about "picking up". If I like a girl, I'm not gonna try to hide it behind some false bravado, or any of that nonsense. I'm gonna go talk to her, make my attraction plain, and straight up ask her when I feel like it. If she rejects, whatever, if she doesn't, cool. I don't need a book or a PUA to tell me how to do that. No one needs that crap. Let's put it this way: Your a hot chick and you've got one guy who is just being himself, and another guy who is reading off a script that he's practiced on seven other girls that night. Which one do you think has the advantage here? It's like you've read nothing in this thread before this page. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On December 09 2011 03:30 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Let's put it this way: Your a hot chick and you've got one guy who is just being himself, and another guy who is reading off a script that he's practiced on seven other girls that night. Which one do you think has the advantage here? Over many years of going out. Guy number 2 becomes guy number 1. When you practice on something your brain becomes efficient. A lot of processing goes from the conscious to the subconscious. Being funny comes automatically. Knowing what to say comes out naturally. Its like Starcraft. When you first played, you probably hated hotkeys. You never know where it is, and it was just easier select it with the mouse. You look clumsy and try hard. But after using hotkeys for 3 years of starcraft, do you look try hard or do you look natural? Pickup is a learning process. You don't go out to necessarily get a specific girl. You go out to get good with women in general. Get it? Good. | ||
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surfinbird1
Germany999 Posts
On December 09 2011 03:03 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: + Show Spoiler + My personal opinion is this: We have become far too cold and scientific in our relationships. Which is ironic, considering how "open" and "free" we are nowadays. How many of your grandfathers would ever have sought advice on how to pick up chicks from a complete stranger? Not trying to put anyone down, but the fact is: this generation is socially inept. Blame it on the schools or the cell-phones or the video games; but whatever it is, it's bad. It's so bad, in fact, that you have people like these PUA who sell millions of books by mixing fact and fiction: Fact: (most) Women like guys who are comfortable with themselves. Fiction: Women are so intolerant to shyness that they will run screaming into the night because you happened to get sweaty hands or showed a bit of nervousness that wasn't entirely feigned. Fact: (most) Women like to be teased, played with, etc. Fiction: Women will point and laugh at the idiot who keeps his hands to himself and is respectful. Fact: (most) Women are a bit insecure. Fiction: Women all have such ridiculous daddy-issues that a guy who treats them like "shit" is good to go. Fact: Attraction is a thing that can be figured out. Fiction: Attraction is a thing that can be boiled down to preset basics that one can learn and practice without actually going out and doing any of it. Fact: Learning how to deal with rejection is healthy and can make you more confident in the future. Fiction: Learning how to deal with rejection is so important that you have to try to pick up thirty women a night, with the same stupid line, so that you can "up your confidence". More like "get used to being rejected", which is not exactly healthy or useful. Fact: Girls are sometimes attracted to dude's who treat them like crap Fiction: Women are attracted to dude's that treat them like crap and hate men who treat them well. And there is my problem with this kind of thing. They take common sense and common knowledge and they try to add in some "Easy 5 step program" that will supposedly turn some unconfident noob into a Casanova in six months. Problem is: women aren't robots and neither are men. What turns on one woman may turn off another. What really annoys one girl may endear you to another. The problem is that these guys will try their "game" on 700 chicks, and declare that it's full-proof because ten out of those seven hundred actually took them up on it. Never mind the fact that 690 of those women think you're a creep or a loser, never mind that 5 out of the 10 that it did work on are actually playing you, not the other way around; never mind that the other 5 probably have emotional issues beyond falling for a practiced shpeel from a playbook used by seven million other men; and most importantly, never mind that it is ALL based on hook-ups and probably results in a lasting relationship, what? Maybe two out of a million times? Fck trying that hard for one night of impassionate sex with someone who is probably just bored and horny. If I wanted that I would find a hooker. I have never heard any serious PUA tell those "facts" to anyone. Where you got them I don't know. From the tone of your post I would imagine that you're either heavily biased against the PUA community or have made some bad experiences?! | ||
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