The PUA community - Page 59

On December 18 2011 13:30 squattincassanova wrote:
The average person is fat, uneducated, lives through life like a drone. I got better things to do than be the superman and try to fix ppls problems when they don't even give a shit. Ever tried to convince someone who doesn't want quit smoking to quit smoking?

On December 19 2011 11:04 Rodimus Prime wrote:


The first time I stole so that I wouldn't starve, I lost many assumptions about the simple nature of right and wrong. And when I traveled, I learned the fear before a crime and the thrill of success. But I never became one of them. People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy, and I can't do that as a PUA. As a man, I'm flesh and blood. I can be ignored, I can be destroyed. But as a symbol … as a symbol, I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting.

With respect, squat, perhaps this is a man that *you* don't fully understand, either. A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in three months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away. Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

On December 19 2011 11:28 esla_sol wrote:
and find it vital for meeting women

On December 19 2011 11:28 esla_sol wrote:
ive got a question for you guys.

i happen to especially sensitive to alcohol. without alcohol i can go for a long time, but after a few drinks i essentially can not come. there have been times i could not get it up either.

is there a way to manage this (drugs?), or will i have to cut out alcohol all together? i really love the stuff and find it vital for meeting women but this problem is really bringing me down.

On December 19 2011 12:50 Catch wrote:
Yeah I realize that; most people that have that kind of style aren't too great with quality women either from what I've seen. I'm learning to stand up for what I want to my friends, or "selfish" as you call it.

After all, it takes much more courage to stand up to your friends than anyone else (source: Dumbledore )

On December 11 2011 22:50 squattincassanova wrote:
Strong page of bashing me lol! This thread is no different than most PUA forums, except for the fact its a billion different sub topics mashed into one thread. If multiple threads got created, it would be too disperse since it IS mainly a starcraft forum. But other than that, its like a big percentage lurkers, then a big percentage keyboard jockeys, a smaller percentage of people who actually open, and an even small percentage that gets lays. Its not surprising a lot of gamers learn PUA since otherwise we would have been naturals. Its ridiculous how many Asians are in PU or want to learn PU.

Most pickup forums are quite dead. There are many I frequent but due to amounts of trolling and newbs, its actually less productive to read forums, and more productive to open sets. The two main forums I go to, one Seattle, one in Southern California are both very low in traffic now. I mainly post there to find wings since they are the two places I sarge. You always want to wing with someone better than you, quite disappointingly, there isn't a single person better than me in Seattle and while there are quite a few decent guys in Southern California, many live over an hour away. Its crazy hard finding good wings, someone equal or better with a different style.

I put up a lot of my infield materials because I write field reports anyways as part of my homework, and I been doing it since I started as a way to keep track of my progress. Plus, there isn't a whole lot of in-field videos out there on YouTube.



Having core confidence is great, but unfortunately its not something you can work directly on. Its hard to explain but here is an analogy. Why does a hot girl know shes hot shit? Because for the last 10 years, she has on a daily basis have had multiple guys approach, ask for her number, kiss up to her, tell her shes pretty. She is reinforced by real life feedback hundreds of thousands of times that she is hot shit. Thus, she knows shes hot shit.

Unless you can be self delusional, real life feedback will always be reinforcing you that you are either cool or uncool. You can do meditation every day for hours on self confidence, but when you go to the club and not a single girl will even look at you and they show a disgusting face, guess what happens? It reinforces you that you aren't a cool guy.

Confidence is gained by making actionable choices. Every time you feels fear, you does it anyways. If you see a hot girl and you are scared to approach, doing it anyways will give you confidence. Everyone wants core confidence but again, its not like you have it or you don't. Its not binary, its more of a continual path to more and more confidence. How do you get that? Its reinforced by the actions you make and the real life feedback you get. A person who is a virgin is going to have a lot harder time subconsciously believe that hes gods gift to women as opposed to a guy who has bedded 2000 women. Its just a lot easier for the second guy to believe it than the first. While it is great to be able to just work on "pure core confidence". The way to achieve confidence with women is more efficient and faster if you worked on approaching and getting results, and those results becomes feedback which boosts your confidence.

To be honest, I have more confidence opening a girl who is 7/10 than a girl who is 10/10. Why? Its because I have laid girls who are 7/10 and I have never laid a girl that are victoria secret model. But guess what? Lets say I slept with 100 girls who are playboy playmates and victoria secret models.... would I have more confidence approaching super hot girls? Of course I have. My brain would tell me, hey look, you have done this hundreds of times in the past, this time is no different.

On December 20 2011 18:58 swarmageddon wrote:



Did it work with meeting anyone?

On December 21 2011 00:19 squattincassanova wrote:



Wearing something ridiculous like that isn't meant to "work" on anyone. It actually makes your sets hook less. Peacocking is not mean as a conversational starter. Its meant to make you be okay with everyone stare at you and not caring because when I open a set in the middle of the mall, every man woman and child was staring at me hoping for me to fail and I could feel the pressure.

That being said, I did get a few good sets. I have like 16 hours of audio to comb through. Ill put it on youtube when I get home. Driving to Seattle from Las Vegas right now.

On December 21 2011 00:19 squattincassanova wrote:Wearing something ridiculous like that isn't meant to "work" on anyone. It actually makes your sets hook less...

On December 21 2011 05:36 r.Evo wrote:



Aight, I've stayed abstinent and silent from this thread for quite some time, but the amount of misinformation you're spreading over here gets worse and worse everytime I skip over it.

What is peacocking?

"Peacocking" is what the PUA scene likes to call wearing weird/exciting/uncommon stuff for various reasons. Afaik the term was spread mostly by Mystery who is also known to have driven peacocking to the extreme. The term comes from (hurrdurr) peacocks who use their beautiful spread feathers to attract females. I'd also like to add that peacocking is way more common in the American PU scene than it is in the european scene. (In the european scene it's way more common to use single items as so called "chick baits" to circumvent most of the negative impacts peacocking can have if you over do it.)

Mystery in field:
+ Show Spoiler +


The purposes of Peacocking

#1 - It gives women who would like to approach YOU a possible opening.
A women who actually thinks you are cool/goodlooking can rarely walk up to you and say "Wow you're hot, how are you?" without completely fucking up what 20+ years of society has told her. The basic "job" of a woman when finding a potential suitor is to find someone who can nurture and protect her. This also includes that potential suitors should not think of her as being "easy" since that would increase the odds of her being easily impregnated by another man.

Back on topic. Basicly the ideal "pickup" is, from her perspective, if she can go tell her girlfriends "I don't really know why or how, but it just happened" afterwards. That is the most socially acceptable form for a girl to get hooked up. Not much to discuss here. By wearing "weird" or "excentric" cloathing / accessoires you give her a socially acceptable opening. No more "Hey, do you have a lighter?" but "That hat looks cool, where'd you get it from?" - bam, that is how women approach men if they have balls. This is very basic material for any pickup-cat out there.


#2 - It draws attention by everyone around you. Just like the real peacock you make yourself more likely to being watched by other persons by means of clothing, accessoires or even hairstyle. You demonstrate strength by showing off your own style while also not giving a f*** about what other people say about you. The overall goal is to be someone who other people would turn their head for without looking silly, unaesthetic or horribly tryhard.

However, this should not be confused with wearing stuff that creates a social pressure exercise. - I'll tend to that later since that is the basic misunderstanding you're having.


#3 - It sets up very strong frames. The more ridiculous you look, the more random people will laugh at/about you and the harder it will be maintain a strong frame. While more people will start turning their heads to see that guy for a longer time, girls will start giggling and men will start making jokes about you. The spotlight is on you and the social pressure increases. If you wear some cowboy hat, leather pants and a button down shirt (lolol) and are the lonely guy who walks around the edges of a club you're a weirdo. If you wear the same thing, but talk to multiple people through the entire evening and girls laugh in your presence you are the king of the evening who everyone will remember (hint: that's also because the dude every girl seems to like is usually the one who can walk away with the promqueen.)

To quote mystery, after being told that a girl hates his googles: "That's not true. You find me attractive." - the frame of a heavily peacocked PUA is that every single joke made about him is made because people envy him and/or find him attractive. If you can convey that mindset while wearing a dildo on your head, so be it.


#4 - Peacocking vs social pressure training. - I remember Hypnotica talking about how he used to wear a bikini (dude looks like wolverine), boots and a dildo on his head to go shopping or randomly walking on the streets. THAT is a social pressure exercise. While I personally think those types of things are utterly retarded, some coaches and PUA swear on them. The goal here is NOT to pick up women, the goal is to be okay with being utterly ridiculed by everyone around you with the intention of having less problems when being exposed to social pressure under normal circumstances.



tl;dr: The majority of your posts in this thread seem designed to get people on TL who are not good with girls to admire you and give you attention, not to actually help anyone. While this itself is already weird as hell coming from someone who claims to "work on his personality" I do understand that this might be your way of advertising your youtube channel and other things.

However, at least get your damn facts straight - then people can understand what you're talking about and maybe learn a thing or two if the google it one day and realize the difference between your statements and how you can actually get better at communication with women and getting the ones you want to appreciate that you are an awesome man.



PS: Everyone stared at you not because they wanted to see you fail, but because they wanted to see who in their right mind would run around like that.

On December 21 2011 05:36 r.Evo wrote:



Aight, I've stayed abstinent and silent from this thread for quite some time, but the amount of misinformation you're spreading over here gets worse and worse everytime I skip over it.

What is peacocking?

"Peacocking" is what the PUA scene likes to call wearing weird/exciting/uncommon stuff for various reasons. Afaik the term was spread mostly by Mystery who is also known to have driven peacocking to the extreme. The term comes from (hurrdurr) peacocks who use their beautiful spread feathers to attract females. I'd also like to add that peacocking is way more common in the American PU scene than it is in the european scene. (In the european scene it's way more common to use single items as so called "chick baits" to circumvent most of the negative impacts peacocking can have if you over do it.)

Mystery in field:
+ Show Spoiler +


The purposes of Peacocking

#1 - It gives women who would like to approach YOU a possible opening.
A women who actually thinks you are cool/goodlooking can rarely walk up to you and say "Wow you're hot, how are you?" without completely fucking up what 20+ years of society has told her. The basic "job" of a woman when finding a potential suitor is to find someone who can nurture and protect her. This also includes that potential suitors should not think of her as being "easy" since that would increase the odds of her being easily impregnated by another man.

Back on topic. Basicly the ideal "pickup" is, from her perspective, if she can go tell her girlfriends "I don't really know why or how, but it just happened" afterwards. That is the most socially acceptable form for a girl to get hooked up. Not much to discuss here. By wearing "weird" or "excentric" cloathing / accessoires you give her a socially acceptable opening. No more "Hey, do you have a lighter?" but "That hat looks cool, where'd you get it from?" - bam, that is how women approach men if they have balls. This is very basic material for any pickup-cat out there.


#2 - It draws attention by everyone around you. Just like the real peacock you make yourself more likely to being watched by other persons by means of clothing, accessoires or even hairstyle. You demonstrate strength by showing off your own style while also not giving a f*** about what other people say about you. The overall goal is to be someone who other people would turn their head for without looking silly, unaesthetic or horribly tryhard.

However, this should not be confused with wearing stuff that creates a social pressure exercise. - I'll tend to that later since that is the basic misunderstanding you're having.


#3 - It sets up very strong frames. The more ridiculous you look, the more random people will laugh at/about you and the harder it will be maintain a strong frame. While more people will start turning their heads to see that guy for a longer time, girls will start giggling and men will start making jokes about you. The spotlight is on you and the social pressure increases. If you wear some cowboy hat, leather pants and a button down shirt (lolol) and are the lonely guy who walks around the edges of a club you're a weirdo. If you wear the same thing, but talk to multiple people through the entire evening and girls laugh in your presence you are the king of the evening who everyone will remember (hint: that's also because the dude every girl seems to like is usually the one who can walk away with the promqueen.)

To quote mystery, after being told that a girl hates his googles: "That's not true. You find me attractive." - the frame of a heavily peacocked PUA is that every single joke made about him is made because people envy him and/or find him attractive. If you can convey that mindset while wearing a dildo on your head, so be it.


#4 - Peacocking vs social pressure training. - I remember Hypnotica talking about how he used to wear a bikini (dude looks like wolverine), boots and a dildo on his head to go shopping or randomly walking on the streets. THAT is a social pressure exercise. While I personally think those types of things are utterly retarded, some coaches and PUA swear on them. The goal here is NOT to pick up women, the goal is to be okay with being utterly ridiculed by everyone around you with the intention of having less problems when being exposed to social pressure under normal circumstances.



tl;dr: The majority of your posts in this thread seem designed to get people on TL who are not good with girls to admire you and give you attention, not to actually help anyone. While this itself is already weird as hell coming from someone who claims to "work on his personality" I do understand that this might be your way of advertising your youtube channel and other things.

However, at least get your damn facts straight - then people can understand what you're talking about and maybe learn a thing or two if the google it one day and realize the difference between your statements and how you can actually get better at communication with women and getting the ones you want to appreciate that you are an awesome man.



PS: Everyone stared at you not because they wanted to see you fail, but because they wanted to see who in their right mind would run around like that.

On December 21 2011 12:57 squattincassanova wrote:
The background of the story was this was a Las Vegas bootcamp and one of the students has a lot of inner game issues. He also is very well dressed. He only goes out in suits. He does not believe he can hook sets without his normal James Bond suit. As a result, we did day game where the instructor made him wear a shirt and sweat pants and that farmers hat. He felt very scared but in the end, he hooked a few sets. Afterwards, the instructor reframed him and showed him his skills are improving and that he does not require his typical suit and tie to hook sets.

I happened to take the hat and opened some sets while the guys were getting food. It was more shits and giggles for me. I can hook sets with or without that hat. There is a time, place, and phase for peacocking. I really prefer not peacocking and I normally with a simple fitted dress shirt and nice jeans.

But good job for Googling, peacocking. Takes a lot of skill to keyboard jockey bro.

On December 21 2011 14:16 visual77 wrote:
I must admit, I've kinda lightly watched this thread for some time, and the more squattincasanova gets torn into, the bigger my smile.

On December 21 2011 14:23 chenchen wrote:


He's an insecure little kid who craves attention and approval, lol . . .

And he wonder why no one takes him seriously.

Curious to see how he'll look back ten years from now . . . probably a mixture of embarrassment and regret.

Don't stop btw, I find all of your posts to be hilarious. You're such a caricature.