On August 22 2011 20:10 freelander wrote: casanova, what's your opinion on RSD and DeAngelo materials?
Thought I'd throw in 2cents on this while I'm here:
DeAngelo is outdated... and IMO very generic stuff budled together to sell. I know a ton of guys who started on David D, so it has that going for it. But then again, when I say "started", I don't mean "continued with". DYD ought to be re-titled to "Talking to Girls for Dummies".
RSD is fucked up. TD's original stuff is gold, but since he's been retired, the whole business is being taken over by some weird combination of hippy/beasts. Any organization that references "chode crytals" or "power nimbus" won't be taken seriously by me, thanks. Blueprint is still a good read for the intermediate PUA though.
Most anything written over 2 years ago has since been replaced by advances in the field, so keep that in the back of your mind when making purchase/download decisions...
Kudos to someone who puts in the work to get what he wants. If squattin is getting what he wants out of life, I don't see the point of attacking that to justify your own life. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had a weirdo pickup artist friend, who knows.
I don't know how correct pickup is versus certain basic principles, but it's always fun to read about different theories and unusual lifestyles. Otherwise, nobody would read Rekrul's blogs.
It doesn't sound so great for long term relationships or promoting gender equality, but that doesn't seem to be the point.
On August 22 2011 22:59 igotmyown wrote: It doesn't sound so great for long term relationships or promoting gender equality, but that doesn't seem to be the point.
It does promote long term relationships depend on your perspective on pickup. Some people want to get laid, some want options, and some want to find a wife.
How does it promote gender inequality? Both genders benefit from the pickup process anyways.
Whether you just to have one night stand lays or a suitable carrier of your child (which can also happen with the one stand) or a pal to stay with you for the rest of your life, you must ALWAYS first make communication with that person. And PUA helps with bringing up your confidence to do such actions. People must realize that men actually have it harder than women in the case of getting laid, the man is attracted to a woman in a hearbeat while woman needs to see something much more than just looks.
On August 22 2011 20:10 freelander wrote: casanova, what's your opinion on RSD and DeAngelo materials?
Thought I'd throw in 2cents on this while I'm here:
DeAngelo is outdated... and IMO very generic stuff budled together to sell. I know a ton of guys who started on David D, so it has that going for it. But then again, when I say "started", I don't mean "continued with". DYD ought to be re-titled to "Talking to Girls for Dummies".
RSD is fucked up. TD's original stuff is gold, but since he's been retired, the whole business is being taken over by some weird combination of hippy/beasts. Any organization that references "chode crytals" or "power nimbus" won't be taken seriously by me, thanks. Blueprint is still a good read for the intermediate PUA though.
Most anything written over 2 years ago has since been replaced by advances in the field, so keep that in the back of your mind when making purchase/download decisions...
Like I said. Reading alone wont get you anywhere. RSD and DYD are high level concepts which can only be meaningful if you combine it with cold approach.
When DeAngelo tells you to go travel... it wont help you jack squat if you have so much approach anxiety that you can't even go up to a girl. How are you going to convey your traveling experiences if you can't even share it with a girl. That's the point. Reading it once in a while after a year or two of actually going out is great. Reading it non stop when you haven't gotten laid yet = waste of time.
thats how i came across the topic. even whats not useful (ie below your level of shamelessness) is often just damn funny, cos as you read through you realize that shit actually works lol.
thats how i came across the topic. even whats not useful (ie below your level of shamelessness) is often just damn funny, cos as you read through you realize that shit actually works lol.
lol that was the first site I bumped into in April 2006 while I was in my last year of college in Seattle. Was too pussy to approach a single girl on campus for the whole remaining 3 months I had left in school. It was so sad.... BUT, It felt great going back to my high school reunion this summer and being able to go out at night with my new powers. I regret hanging on to my gf and I had wish I really started doing this in 2006, I would have 5 years of experience under my belt.
On August 21 2011 05:11 squattincassanova wrote: This was an attempt to pull. It was a 2 set. One black girl and one mexican girl. Both had boyfriends but the black girl was giving me tons of shit tests at the end because I am trying to pull the Mexican girl. Mainly she was mad her boyfriend because they got into a fight and hes not responding to her calls. Sometimes there are these external factors that come at you that sucks and you just have to deal with that crap. The pull was a success. After she dropped of her friend, I met up with the Mexican girl.
First night, I took her out for a drive around town after the club and after she dropped off her friend. We met at the gas station. I took some pictures, pulled her to my place to show the camera pictures. Heavy resistance, wouldn't sit on my bed. I told her to loosen up and finally got her into bed. Most I got was a make-out. Heavy resistance on everything else. We cuddled in bed and she stayed there over night.
Day2, it was Sunday, she came over we watched two movies. It wasn't too hard to get her on bed. We made out but she was resisting everything else. She would move my hand away from the other parts of her body. Basically I learned to just briefly gloss my hands over her sensitive areas before she has time to respond. The last 3 lays, I really learned how to escalate. Some girls are just down, but some of them really takes a lot of amp work. Tried every thing in the book, I pushed her head down there but she resisted. I took her hand and put it next to my crotch and she resisted. Finally I got her to keep it there. She told me she was on her period.
Day 3. We went to the gym together. Afterwards, we went back to my place. I tried to get her to shower, she resisted. Finally I got her to shower with me. Basically the way I persist is I suggest something, kinda kino her, and if she resists, i walk around and do something else. For example, ill check my email really quick, and ask again lol. Then she kept saying no, I went to get a towel and put it next to the shower, and I asked her again. She said no. I walked around and fed my fish bowl, and I tried it again lol! I was too persistent and she gave in. I needed her to be comfortable with me naked and just comfortable with me all around. She did have a boyfriend but she was in a dying relationship. So again, just make out, but it wasn't hard to start rubbing her, but still resistance. She was on her period. It took literally 30 minutes of escalating in bed. I got on top and started dry humping her. And then it went limp and I am like god dammit, my long term use of nitric oxide supplement is fucking up with my boner. I did a freeze out and she was like whats wrong. I told he about that supplement and I said basically, I am going to try and get hard again and if you jump on top, I am gonna be super angry. So I got hard enough, put on the condom and she gets on top. Finally! She was on her period and I didn't know. I thought she was gusher but nope, blood everywhere. I had to wash my bed sheets. Ugh.
On August 22 2011 18:22 Carwash wrote: PUA shit is embarrassing and anyone that engages in it is pitiful at best, an absolute misogynistic monster at worst.
Follow these EZ steps instead:
1. Have some Confidence 2. Don't be absolutely hideous and/or fat (shave that god damn neckbeard...basic hygiene brah)
From my perspective, girls really really don't care all that much about looks. Being a nice, charismatic motherfucker can get you wayyy farther with a girl than a 6-Pack and some shitty PUA dialogue.
Einstein said, the more you learn about something, the more you realize what you dont know. To a newbie like yourself, everything seems over simplified. What you say means absolutely nothing because you haven't shown any proof that you know what the heck you are talking about. For all I know, you could be some 30 year old virgin sitting behind a computer spitting out keyboard jock crap. When you can pull girls home on a weekly basis, then start giving advice.
Proof is worth a thousand words. A guy can say hes got all the game in the world on an internet forum, but when I hang out with him for one night, I know exactly what level hes at. When you have audio recordings of you meeting a girl same day, and then pulling her home that same night, I will give you props and maybe listen to you. But until then, watch and learn:
Thanks.
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Probably best to ignore the flamers in this thread before it gets locked, but anyways thanks for posting all these videoes cassanova. My only request is that you add subtitles, since its often difficult to follow your conversation with the music/talking over one another. Great stuff though, I think I'll try the big-boob opener myself, sounds funny enough that it might actually work. :D
Remember, for the big boob opener. You gotta blatantly stare at her boobs with your jaws down, have a huge long PAUSE, before you say "personality" lol.
Any audio books you could recommend to a newbie? I already know central concepts. Had some kind of a confidence-boost recently and been doing some cold approaches at parties. I feel like I'm seriously lacking in game lol. I need to learn how to be more flirty and focus the conversation on sex instead of boring stuff like work. Would be nice to get some openers out of it too.
In other words, this embarrassment of a community is holding back the social evolution of the species.
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Like any community, this one is bound to have morons and douchebags as well as decent people. What I think most people try to get out of this entire PUA thing is simply some more confidence in approaching women. You can be somewhat of a pickup artist yet still respect women and use your skills to look for a lasting relationship.
Your comment about 'the social evolution of the species' makes absolutely no sense to me lol. Do you believe that, if the PUA community did not exist, somehow men would be naturally evolving towards more genuine, respectful methods of seducing women?
In other words, this embarrassment of a community is holding back the social evolution of the species.
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I love guys who posts links to a few random articles to make a point. He clearly has not taken biology or done pickup.
First of all, pickup has been mainstream since like what 2005? Less than 1% of men actually do pickup, and after 3 months, 90% of those people quit. You would be lucky to have 1 out of 1000 mean do solid pickup. That's an over estimation.
You do know evolution occurs over hundreds if not thousands of generations, in which the actual gene pool of a species shifts. So you are telling me that <0.1% of the population over 6 years (less than 1/4th of a single generation) is enough evidence for any type of evolution what so ever? And how do you know pick up artists are having a lot of kids and spreading their DNA? You don't know that. I see far more people in third world countries and in poverty areas having kids than PUAs. There is virtually no impact from pick up. How many pick up artists do you know that has 5 kids? Then look at your typical neighbors in California, and see how many kids they have.
Also, social savvyness is a lot of times cultural, not genetic. That's why within 8 months, my social skills is far better than the average american. My limitation wasn't because I was born Chinese, it was because my mom and dad never really socialized. If I hung out with black kids early on in life, I would have a lot of game in the beginning.
Yo squattincassanova, I have a question right now its bothering me for the past 2 days a lot. I was wondering if while communicating with women, when the situation changes, do you stick to the same story? Or do you follow the new topic and ride it with improv?
On August 30 2011 01:27 Xiphos wrote: Yo squattincassanova, I have a question right now its bothering me for the past 2 days a lot. I was wondering if while communicating with women, when the situation changes, do you stick to the same story? Or do you follow the new topic and ride it with improv?
I wouldn't dwell on it too much. If you were split for like 10 seconds, then sure, go right back to your original story - "as I was saying, blah blah blah". If you were split for like 1 hour, obviously don't continue the exact next sentence you were about to say an hour ago. If you were split that long just be like hows was your night or the cool stuff you heard or saw within the last hour.
$0.02: I am the stereotypical "nice guy." Since puberty I have at all times been with one female or another, and they are non-whiney sexual beings. There actually are women that are awesome who like nice guys. Here's the trick: you don't meet them in bars.
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