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zasda
381 Posts
On May 15 2011 17:56 Sixotanaka wrote: I think his recent IPL win puts IdrA in a position to take the throne,not just the win coming back from 2:0 against toss. But he's not there yet and neither is NesTea. The throne is empty. Win gsl twice. Not good enough. Oh the standards of a bronze player.- | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On May 15 2011 17:56 Sixotanaka wrote: I think his recent IPL win puts IdrA in a position to take the throne,not just the win coming back from 2:0 against toss. But he's not there yet and neither is NesTea. The throne is empty. Why are you talking about the IPL when Nestea has won the GSL twice? | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 15 2011 17:55 densha wrote: Here's one of the biggest differences I see between Nestea and IdrA. According to recent interviews, it seems like Nestea bears the perceived burden of all Zerg on his shoulders and he does put much thought into himself as a beacon for all Zerg. Paraphrasing something he said after winning the most recent GSL finals: "I hope my games today give courage to all Zerg players". He's also said he feels some pressure as the Zerg player most other Zergs look up to. IdrA doesn't bear that burden. IdrA fills another role completely and a role that I think is just as much needed. He is the nagging voice inside all of us that voices our most basic concerns with balance. He is the rage that represents the frustrations of many Zerg players. This is a role that fits Greg whether he knows/likes it or not, but it's not a role that is befitting for a "Zerg King". I think Nestea, as our inspiration and savior... fuck it, I'll just say it - Nestea, as our Jesus Christ, deserves the title "King of Zerg", but more appropriately "God of Zerg". Now, I know I'm speaking in really bibilical tones about Nestea, but whether our concerns are real or imagined, Zergs more than the other two races need to be shown that yes, we can win. Yes, we can overcome Protoss. Yes, we can overcome scouting deficiencies against Terran. Nestea, you are my inspiration, my guiding light, my one and only King of Zerg. Nestea cries imbalance just as much as Idra... Also what people forget is that the Korean tournament scene favors better games as they get more time to prepare (Just look at what Thorzain has accomplished) | ||
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On May 15 2011 18:00 zasda wrote: Win gsl twice. Not good enough. Oh the standards of a bronze player.- He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On May 15 2011 19:56 VashTS wrote: He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. You know that there were other guys he had to face besides Inca? | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On May 15 2011 19:56 VashTS wrote: He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. He also went undefeated in Season 2 when Zergs were falling left and right, until he met MarineKing. in the Gainward tournament every single Zerg and Protoss got eliminated and there were 7 terrans in the top8(Terrans like MarineKing and MVP) and Nestea placed #2. I'm sorry, Nestea's quality of opponents is a lot higher than Idra's(idra even talked about this on his stream, about how the foreigners aren't as dedicated and as good as koreans) and he still manages to place top places despite Zerg apparently not having a chance to win anything(LOL) | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On May 15 2011 19:38 Eppa! wrote: Nestea cries imbalance just as much as Idra... Does he bitch at the players he loses to tho? | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On May 15 2011 19:56 VashTS wrote: He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. Inca, Jinro, Anypro and SC is a much harder run than Drewbie, Kiwikaki and Select. It's not comparable. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On May 15 2011 19:56 VashTS wrote: He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. MC vs Idra at dreamhack showed what happens when Idra stops playing foreigners way below his level. | ||
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OwlHarris
United States53 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 15 2011 23:10 Blasphemi wrote: MC vs Idra at dreamhack showed what happens when Idra stops playing foreigners way below his level. He barely loses? | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Still, every player has a win and a loss in them, especially Zergs. | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
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Willes
Germany199 Posts
Nestea has won the hardest Competition 2 times, so if you see this as an indicator of how good someone understands Zergplay in highlevel-torunaments Neastea for sure knows how to win with Zerg, no matter what opponents he play against. I dont know exactly Idras GSL results, was it 1 time the Ro8 ? | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 16 2011 02:43 epoc wrote: I remember this one game nestea played against mvp I think. I'm not completely sure but anyway nestea held off the initial marinetank push but then he expanded twice and made nothing but drones and lost. He lost a certain victory game. I haven't seen that from Idra. Lol, EVERY zerg does this. Remember Jinro vs IdrA on Terminus where idra was on 6 bases and Jinro on 3, yet idra was like 2-1 vs 3-3 and forgot bane speed?  It's part of being zerg, losing when you are ahead from one bad battle. | ||
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Jeity
99 Posts
On May 16 2011 02:43 epoc wrote: I remember this one game nestea played against mvp I think. I'm not completely sure but anyway nestea held off the initial marinetank push but then he expanded twice and made nothing but drones and lost. He lost a certain victory game. I haven't seen that from Idra. I have seen idra leave to hallucinated void rays though. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 16 2011 02:43 epoc wrote: I remember this one game nestea played against mvp I think. I'm not completely sure but anyway nestea held off the initial marinetank push but then he expanded twice and made nothing but drones and lost. He lost a certain victory game. I haven't seen that from Idra. How do you know it was a certain victory game? If he defended that it means he made more units aka less drones so his economy is not that stable. Its part of the zerg to get a crapton of drones. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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