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On May 16 2011 02:43 epoc wrote:
I remember this one game nestea played against mvp I think. I'm not completely sure but anyway nestea held off the initial marinetank push but then he expanded twice and made nothing but drones and lost. He lost a certain victory game. I haven't seen that from Idra.
I think you can be pretty certain that idra has lost game like that as well, and probably to worse opponents than mvp in his prime  They don't call mvp the game genie terran for no reason
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On May 16 2011 02:54 Phayze wrote:
One thing people dont see is practice games. Both IdrA and Nestea have a whole whack of practice games to base their balance opinions on. Just something to think about.
The practice games where NesTea wins 90% of his games against Protoss? (His own saying)
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On May 16 2011 02:52 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 02:43 epoc wrote:
I remember this one game nestea played against mvp I think. I'm not completely sure but anyway nestea held off the initial marinetank push but then he expanded twice and made nothing but drones and lost. He lost a certain victory game. I haven't seen that from Idra. How do you know it was a certain victory game? If he defended that it means he made more units aka less drones so his economy is not that stable. Its part of the zerg to get a crapton of drones.
Judging from that game I can with 99% certainty say that he would have won.
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On May 16 2011 03:01 gnutz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 02:54 Phayze wrote:
One thing people dont see is practice games. Both IdrA and Nestea have a whole whack of practice games to base their balance opinions on. Just something to think about. The practice games where NesTea wins 90% of his games against Protoss? (His own saying)
IdrA wins 90% of his practice games as well.
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I don't think there is even a discussion. Winning GSL twice doesn't satisfy some of you...
IdrA would likely agree that NesTea is the best Z in the world. These arguments are kind of silly.
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Mondragon ftw!!! I'm counting on him once he catch up to other top pros
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Nestea, then Idra / LosirA, then July.
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In terms of Korean : Nestea
best foreigner: IdrA
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On May 16 2011 02:13 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 23:10 Blasphemi wrote:On May 15 2011 19:56 VashTS wrote:On May 15 2011 18:00 zasda wrote:On May 15 2011 17:56 Sixotanaka wrote:
I think his recent IPL win puts IdrA in a position to take the throne,not just the win coming back from 2:0 against toss. But he's not there yet and neither is NesTea. The throne is empty. Win gsl twice. Not good enough. Oh the standards of a bronze player.- He might have won GSL, but beating Inca in that condition was nothing special. Actually felt bad that NesTea had such a walkover of a series, he must have been extremely bored. IdrA is currently 18-0 in BoX series matches, which is a good streak imo. So honestly.. I can't tell. Love em both, and they are both doing pretty damn good for themselves atm. MC vs Idra at dreamhack showed what happens when Idra stops playing foreigners way below his level. He barely loses?
MC won fairly comfortably. Besides, a win is a win and for all Idra's great ZvP recently, when he played boss toss he was outclassed.
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Idra will be just another Lebron James? That's not really a bad thing.
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The sport is really volatile right now. A new poll would show a large change for Idra and Nestea since GSL and IPL/NASL have progressed.
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For now, I will go and say Dimaga. He just proofed that on Korean ground. Very nice play, the only thing is that he lacks the achievements/wins. But he is up and coming, still!
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I voted the throne is empty two weeks ago, but now its clearly Nestea and it goes back to the games against jinro, which people haven't mentioned too much. Nestea lost his first group game and I thought it was further evidence of his downward slide, but then he dominated jinro, twice. He then followed that with impressive wins against anypro and a very strong looking SC. Say what you will about inca, Nestea's run in this GSL has been impressive and he can only beat the players he's up against.
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Stephano,
french zerg guy, only 17-18 years old, isn't playing 10 hours per day but can win 3 Go4sc2 and the 100# invitationnal one in a row against the best european terran.
Has the 7th best elo in TLPD
:p
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On May 16 2011 07:17 MrSpider wrote:
Stephano,
french zerg guy, only 17-18 years old, isn't playing 10 hours per day but can win 3 Go4sc2 and the 100# invitationnal one in a row against the best european terran.
Has the 7th best elo in TLPD
:p
But he lost to people on the list pretty badly.
+ Show Spoiler +Sen 2-0 him in EG Masters Cup even playing protoss in game 2. watch it. you see? you see?!
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Nestea is definitely the king of zergs. Sen and Idra can battle it out for second.
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Jaedong is the king of zergs.
When/if he switches to Sc2, he will roflstomp everyone.
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Nestea without a doubt. IdrA is a very solid player, but he's not dominating material.
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EPT
