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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:32 tnkted wrote: well, you'd think that mary would be god's wife, since he totally banged her to create jesus, and premarital sex is wrong... But see, she was still a virgin. | ||
RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43777 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:24 Gatsbi wrote: What? That's absolutely ridiculous. Believeing in the Christian God is just as ridiculous as believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, why is one more outrageous than the other? Are you sure you're not biased? And that's not a biased thing to say? On topic: Do we know if a certain sect of Christians are already aware of this wife of God? | ||
MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:15 mowglie wrote: I don't think we should jump to conclusion based on the work of this one theologian alone. Is this person's work peer reviewed by other secular and non-secular theologians? Or are we seeking information that supports our view to bash religion? I quote one person's comment from that link. "The article is misleading. The ancient isarelites did indeed frequently pray to foreign Gods and godesses, and in every place in the Bible where they have done so, it has been called an abomination, that Asherah was an adopted Canaanite goddess, and that kings and rulers who worshipped such did evil in the sight of the Lord. The prophets of Asherah were central to the story of the face-off between Elijah and the Canaanites told in 1 Kings 18. The fact that archeologists find inscriptions to Asherah does not indicate that she was "erased" from the Theology, or that she was once main-stream Judaism. Anyone who has actually studied the old testament, particularly Samuel/Chronicles/Kings knows that this is indicative of the very falling-away and heresies that are documented in these texts." People need to read this comment before posting further. Also, the mate of Asherah was not the orthodox Jewish God, but Baal, his Caanite counterpart. For those infidels who did worship Baal as God, it's obvious that you can interpret Asherah as being the wife of "God," but this does not mean the biblical God. | ||
101toss
3232 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On topic: Do we know if a certain sect of Christians are already aware of this wife of God? On March 23 2011 12:12 0neder wrote: To quote myself, why is this age obsessed with refuting others' religious beliefs? Why is everyone so religiously secular these days? =) On a side note, I'm Mormon, and we have always believed God has a wife. Why would he set up some arbitrary sociality for his children if it's not what he himself has attained in his state of perfection and happiness? His goal is for us to become like him, just like any parent(s). Most couples who live their religious beliefs would say that is the pinnacle of fulfillment for them and adds a new level of depth, closeness, and love to their relationship with each other and with God. Also, we believe that anyone who lives the Gospel can eventually become an exhalted person (through the Atonement) like God is, so this idea is not strange to us. Any parent wants their kid to grow up and share in their wisdom and happiness. User was warned for this post | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43777 Posts
Ah, cool cool. Thanks for the info, 0neder (and for showing me it when I missed it, 101toss) ![]() | ||
Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
Faith: Believe whatever the fuck you want to and as long as it doesn't interfere with me, I don't care. History of Religion: What did people believe in the past? This is an example of the latter, but people keep trying to tie it to the former to say UR RELIGION IS BOGUS LOLOL!!!1! Elaboration: The research turns up that ancient Israelites believed in a God with a wife. In the article, OP, thread, and even title, it draws the conclusion, or at least eludes to, that the God in modern Christianity, Judaism, and Islam has a wife, and that the followers of those religions were just wrong with what they believed. | ||
MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
Any understanding can liberate you from fear of the uncertain and to rely on sources you would never trust otherwise will only lead to a life with split meanings. Exactly. Except you see the irony. If this axiom is true, it is unusable for life. By one little change from a definite article (the understanding) to an indefinite article (an understanding, any understanding) what you are doing is encouraging split meanings. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:40 MoltkeWarding wrote: People need to read this comment before posting further. Also, the mate of Asherah was not the orthodox Jewish God, but Baal, his Caanite counterpart. For those infidels who did worship Baal as God, it's obvious that you can interpret Asherah as being the wife of "God," but this does not mean the biblical God. Moltke, do you think 0nder's post kinda just shows his utter misunderstanding or ignorance of how the Trinity has been formulated in the past and that he engages in a far too blatant anthropomorphism of God? I haven't studied Mormonism at all but whenever I've come across some Mormon doctrines I just feel as if it is entirely disconnected with Christian tradition. | ||
Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 23 2011 12:40 MoltkeWarding wrote: People need to read this comment before posting further. Also, the mate of Asherah was not the orthodox Jewish God, but Baal, his Caanite counterpart. For those infidels who did worship Baal as God, it's obvious that you can interpret Asherah as being the wife of "God," but this does not mean the biblical God. I would not be surprised if there were a Semitic religion where Asherah was seen as the wife of Ba'al, but Asherah is usually identified as the wife of a creator god who is simply called "El" and is distinct from Ba'al. | ||
nemY
United States3119 Posts
If you see God as being gender neutral than why bother creating sexes to begin with? That certainly isn't in androgynous' God's image than... is it? Doubt this will have any long term effects on organized religion what-so-ever. DISCLAIMER I'm no theologist. | ||
oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
Asherah -- known across the ancient Near East by various other names, such as Astarte and Istar -- was "an important deity, one who was both mighty and nurturing," Wright continued istar kinda sounds like easter... so asherah could be the mother goddess in the pagan religions that easter is based on | ||
GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
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Trobot
United States125 Posts
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koreasilver
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On March 23 2011 13:03 koreasilver wrote: Moltke, do you think 0nder's post kinda just shows his utter misunderstanding or ignorance of how the Trinity has been formulated in the past and that he engages in a far too blatant anthropomorphism of God? I haven't studied Mormonism at all but whenever I've come across some Mormon doctrines I just feel as if it is entirely disconnected with Christian tradition. Mormons don't believe in the Trinity, and don't have any use for it in their theology. The fundamental belief of Mormonism is that an ancient group of Israelites came to the Americas thousands of years ago, establishing a civilization in the Southern part of our continent. When Jesus was incarnated in Israel, he was simultaneously incarnated to this offshoot community of Jews in America, whence Christianity was established simultaneously in America and Judea. This civilization was eventually destroyed, but in 1820 an angel spoke to Joseph Smith, a boy from upstate New York, and instructed him to go dig in the wilderness (like Timon of Athens) and there he found metal plates containing the scripture of this ancient American Christian civilization. Through the inspiration of God, he translated this scripture into English and published it as the book of Mormon. That is the basis of the Mormon religion, as far as I understand it. If that sounds disconnected with Christian tradition to you, you're welcome to raise that point with their church. Otherwise, Mormonism exhibits traits fairly typical of American Christians: clean living, democratic organization, scriptural infallibility, direct individual communication with God, the near-certainty of salvation, and so on. I was also told by Mormon missionaries that even in the worst case, damnation does not mean eternal despair, but merely going to a third-rate heaven, since God loves all his children. I don't know if that's canonical, but Mormons are so cheerful in general, it may actually be part of their theology. | ||
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