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Dismantlethethroat
Profile Joined March 2011
114 Posts
March 23 2011 11:57 GMT
#61
OP is a scrub and needs to shut the fuck up. Really. Yeah its funny how people are like "we cant have a religious discussion without a flamewar waaaah", when its those people who start attacking people's beliefs every chance they get.

User was temp banned for this post.
Herpadurr
Profile Joined January 2011
Monaco151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 15:25:00
March 23 2011 12:05 GMT
#62
Who cares? God never existed.


User was temp banned for this post.
You're stupid. Stop it.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#63
Ok, now it makes sense why the world is so f*cked up.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 12:16:28
March 23 2011 12:12 GMT
#64
Oh, ok then.

User was warned for this post
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 12:16:40
March 23 2011 12:15 GMT
#65
Double posted, don't judge me.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10888 Posts
March 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#66
Ahm...

Scientist says that historical findings/data seems to say that a long time ago the christian "God" had a "Wife" which got "outwritten/forgotten/no one knows" over the hundreds of years/millenia christianity and its various "sects" have evolved/changed.

Thats not an attack on religion or anything and if you feel like that, you got some mighty problems...
Hadron.
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
March 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#67
Part of having opinions is actually being well informed and well reasoned. If I say player A is better than player B then people can dispute that and state the reasons why. But for some reason the whole religion/faith is somehow immune to criticism and argument because it's just the way it is.

There are good aspects about religion, but there are also many bad ones.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 12:52:52
March 23 2011 12:20 GMT
#68
The worship of Asherah, and the use of Asherah poles, is repeatedly mentioned in the Bible, specifically in the context of the Israelites turning to worship foreign gods such as Asherah and Baal. They even go so far as to brazenly bring this into God's temple at Jerusalem. God is very clear that he is not happy with this. In fact, much of the Old Testament is documenting Israel who repeatedly turn to worship other gods, and God being angry about this.

It is not too surprising that some Israelites may have twistedly worshipped both the LORD and Asherah, an idol. In fact you'd pretty much expect something like that given the corrupted nature of their spiritual lives. Or, they were referring to Baal, as a previous poster said.
Rashid
Profile Joined March 2011
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 12:48:36
March 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#69
Gods don't have wives or genders. There is absolutely no point of an omnipotent and omniscient being to have genders or be sexually attracted to another; because gender and sex are just biological mechanisms that evolved through the ages which enables us lesser creatures to propagate as a species.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1770 Posts
March 23 2011 12:48 GMT
#70
Who says god has a sex?
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
March 23 2011 13:06 GMT
#71
On March 23 2011 21:46 Rashid wrote:
Gods don't have wives or genders. There is absolutely no point of an omnipotent and omniscient being to have genders or be sexually attracted to another; because gender and sex are just biological mechanisms that evolved through the ages which enables us lesser creatures to propagate as a species.

You can't know that. God works in mysterious ways.
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 13:56:07
March 23 2011 13:55 GMT
#72
On March 23 2011 21:20 snotboogie wrote:
The worship of Asherah, and the use of Asherah poles, is repeatedly mentioned in the Bible, specifically in the context of the Israelites turning to worship foreign gods such as Asherah and Baal. They even go so far as to brazenly bring this into God's temple at Jerusalem. God is very clear that he is not happy with this. In fact, much of the Old Testament is documenting Israel who repeatedly turn to worship other gods, and God being angry about this.

It is not too surprising that some Israelites may have twistedly worshipped both the LORD and Asherah, an idol. In fact you'd pretty much expect something like that given the corrupted nature of their spiritual lives. Or, they were referring to Baal, as a previous poster said.


It's pretty clear to me that many of the ancient Israelites were polytheists, up to and including their leaders. It's apparent from much of the language of this part of the OT that YHWH was simply Israel's god of choice. There's some controversy over whether El (the Caananite god that Abraham made his pact with) and YHWH (the god that delivered the Israelites from Egypt) were the same entity, and it appears that this connection was made by later authors.

The early Israelites were aware of and believed in a pantheon of gods, and the idea that YHWH was the only god appears to have not been present before the Babylonian captivity. There is a lot of linguistic evidence in the Bible for this.
DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
March 23 2011 13:56 GMT
#73
phew... that explains us then.
"Everybody gotta die some time, righ'?" - Wraith Pilot
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
March 23 2011 14:36 GMT
#74
It occurs to me that the bible is, in many ways, comparable to modern comic or fiction franchises. A lot of people with different views from different times and backgrounds contributed and somewhen some people decided what is canon and what is not (being called apokryphes instead). Naturally this process leads to inconsistencies. But that is the exact reason why taking the bible literally is not recommended (apart from the fact that customs from over 2,000 years ago might be anachronistic nowadays).
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
March 23 2011 14:40 GMT
#75
So...if we have sex...then we are doing incest...which is a taboo...

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
wat wat in my pants
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
March 23 2011 14:45 GMT
#76
On March 23 2011 21:20 snotboogie wrote:
The worship of Asherah, and the use of Asherah poles, is repeatedly mentioned in the Bible, specifically in the context of the Israelites turning to worship foreign gods such as Asherah and Baal. They even go so far as to brazenly bring this into God's temple at Jerusalem. God is very clear that he is not happy with this. In fact, much of the Old Testament is documenting Israel who repeatedly turn to worship other gods, and God being angry about this.

It is not too surprising that some Israelites may have twistedly worshipped both the LORD and Asherah, an idol. In fact you'd pretty much expect something like that given the corrupted nature of their spiritual lives. Or, they were referring to Baal, as a previous poster said.

Baal is just another name for lord it's a surname.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 23 2011 14:50 GMT
#77
Rather than the 10000000th religion thread, we should be discussing the more interesting point of whether Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually originated from a (lost) history of polytheism. I'm an atheist so I don't know much about this stuff but this is the first time I've ever heard of something like this. Seems pretty big if the evidence discussed in the article is credible.

I also wonder if human beings are initially predisposed to polytheism. I'd love to hear if anyone has any theories on why early religions seem to all be polytheistic. I'd like to suggest a theory I just made up that maybe a monotheistic belief system takes more organization, whereas a polytheistic system can evolve naturally. It's easy to see how a bunch of myths and stories about supernatural forces can over time become integrated with one another. It seems to take more deliberation and planning to create a single, consistent deity and base all stories off of him/her.

Although from what I understand, a lot of stories in the Bible were indeed drawn from other stories and myths.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 23 2011 14:52 GMT
#78
On March 23 2011 11:58 Milkis wrote:
every once in a while people make dumb theories to get attention when the bible itselfs literally tells you why there were asherah poles in the temple

holy crap


This. Exactly this.

People that actually know what they are talking about don't even respond to this stuff anymore. It's just embarrassing.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 23 2011 14:56 GMT
#79
On March 23 2011 23:52 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 11:58 Milkis wrote:
every once in a while people make dumb theories to get attention when the bible itselfs literally tells you why there were asherah poles in the temple

holy crap


This. Exactly this.

People that actually know what they are talking about don't even respond to this stuff anymore. It's just embarrassing.

Isn't the whole point of her argument and the article that the Bible was edited to exclude the evidence she found that ancient Israelites worshiped a Goddess?
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
March 23 2011 14:57 GMT
#80
On March 23 2011 23:50 Slow Motion wrote:
Rather than the 10000000th religion thread, we should be discussing the more interesting point of whether Jews, Christians, and Muslims actually originated from a (lost) history of polytheism. I'm an atheist so I don't know much about this stuff but this is the first time I've ever heard of something like this. Seems pretty big if the evidence discussed in the article is credible.


It's weird that you're an atheist and interested in discussing religion.
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