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What we just witnessed was the first day of TSL3. And man, will I say I was hyped. I'm not sure whether it was the fact of such big name players, or if it was the koreans playing foreigners, or just because it was all made possible by a community I am part of. I've never been so hyped and excited to watch a SC2 tournament in my life, and I have to say; it did not dissapoint. Not to mention it had more viewers (38k combined) than practically every tournament to date.
At first I'm sure people had their doubts, considering GSL does have the larger prizepool, and GSL "should" have higher level games. But I think, after today, many of those people might think otherwise. So I follow up with the question, what tournament excites you more?
Note: Not the higher level tournament but more ENTERTAINING or EXCITING
Poll: More Exciting Tournament ?TSL (198) 71% GSL (80) 29% 278 total votes Your vote: More Exciting Tournament ? (Vote): TSL
(Vote): GSL
Now it's still hard to say what TSL will turn into, since it was only one day, but I'm sure we have a decent idea now. And I'll just post a quick summary of what I thought of the players and games:
+ Show Spoiler [Tyler vs Strelok] +
Wow, was I impressed with Tylers play. Pretty much everytime he was moving out, I'm thinking to myself, Tyler are you a noob? His army is so much bigger than yours, and somehow he managed to crush it every single time. Very very good control and decision making in game one took him the game, not to mention, the holding of the push in game two with his upgraded stalkers was insane. Strelok played well, he could multitask well, but in the end, Tylers perfect sentry usage came out on top. Sad to see Strelok go, but happy to see Tyler advance.
+ Show Spoiler [Sen vs Fenix] +
Sen is scary. Each game, by the time Fenix was floating to his natural - Sen had 45-50 drones. Lategame it honestly didn't matter what Sen did with his banelings and zerglings. The style really seemed similiar to the famous Sauron Zerg BW style of just sending a constant stream at your opponent. Fenix by no means played horrible, but I felt he could have been more agressive to prevent that scary 5 base economy.
+ Show Spoiler [FruitDealer vs ThorZaIN] +
After game one I wasn't sure what to think. Thorzain gained a huge advantage and I felt like he almost let FD catch up, but in game two, his play was outstanding. I'm a fan of Thorzain now. His play was just so calm, relaxed, passive; but in a good way... Something about his play was just really really nice. He never felt like he needed to attack, he was fine just doing drops and expanding, making a scary army etc. Fruitdealer obviously not playing his max potential, lost lots of mutas carelessly but I didn't feel his play was horrid, just a couple key mistakes.
+ Show Spoiler [NightEnD vs Boxer] +
I wasn't very impressed with either of the players this match. Both player seemed too passive to me, Boxer didn't drop, NightEnD didn't use his pheonix to harass. Although every battle I felt like NightEnD should win since that collosis army seemed scary, but Boxer managed to come out on top... In the third game actually, I thought NightEnd could even come back after losing his two expansions because he had a good number of collosis. NightEnDs collosis just don't do much damage to marauders for some reason, or maybe it's Boxers marauders that are so strong
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Ehh this GSL is leaving me with mixed thoughts. Some very good games, and some ......games.
So, so far, TSL>GSL
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On March 20 2011 07:29 puttputt wrote:
ThorZaIN... nuff said.
Swedish terrans...nuff said, infact swedish players in general..nuff said
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FD, when will you stop disappointing me...sigh...
TSL, so far so good, reverse judgment until first round finishes.
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Do we really need this? Both contribute greatly to E-Sports.
Personally I prefer GSL, though.
But obviously considering we're on TeamLiquid.net we already know the outcome of the Poll.
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Voted GSL, but that was more as a product, watching Tastosis live is a thrill even when the games fall flat sometimes.
However TSL had better games i feel, at least from today. And i do like Chill and ofc OUR BOY Day9, but i wish we could see them, at least in a webcam once in a while.
I dont swing that way, i just wish to see them but otherwise fantastic start to TSL!
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I dont see how you can tell right now considering GSL finished and TSL hasn't even finished round 1. GSL had some great games but the finals were extremely horrible.
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Don't you think its a little bias posting this on teamliquid?
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On March 20 2011 07:32 dunc wrote:
Do we really need this? Both contribute greatly to E-Sports.
Personally I prefer GSL, though.
But obviously considering we're on TeamLiquid.net we already know the outcome of the Poll.
Well say you don't have 8 hours to watch SC everyday you need to pick one tournament. I'm curious which you would pick and enjoy more...
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TSL 1/2 > OSL and MSL
highlight of sc always <3
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Voted for TSL because
1) I like to watch more foreigner vs korean games
2) I don't have to wake up late at night
3) I like TSL's production value+community
4) I like the idea of different people from all over the world playing with different styles in one tournament.
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On March 20 2011 07:34 Skillz_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2011 07:32 dunc wrote:
Do we really need this? Both contribute greatly to E-Sports.
Personally I prefer GSL, though.
But obviously considering we're on TeamLiquid.net we already know the outcome of the Poll. Well say you don't have 8 hours to watch SC everyday you need to pick one tournament. I'm curious which you would pick and enjoy more...
I would pick GSL since my favourite player(MarineKing) isn't in TSL and I still feel like Koreans are better than foreigners, eventhough this season of GSL was disappointing.
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It was cause of the fact that it was new. If TSL was like GSL every month it'd lose it's hype as well just like the GSL did. Both provide different experiences so it's not really fair to compare them.
I love and enjoy both of em.
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tsl doesn't have tastosis.
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i like tsl more, but tasteless and artosis are priceless and irreplacable, so gsl all the way:D
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On March 20 2011 07:29 puttputt wrote:
ThorZaIN... nuff said.
i guess you havent seen the macrofest that is Boxer v Nightend? I like TSL mainly due to the hype, the fact its made by the community and that basically all the most awesome players from the world (including my personal fav TLO) are playing. However i hope matches will be like the Thorzain v FD quality, and not Boxer v Nightend...coz that seriously was subpar
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TSL showed less refined builds and moderately good execution from some players. It isn't really a Korean v/s European "style" problem as one of the most disappointing players was FruitDealer (approximative unit control, uninspired build orders) and Nony/Tyler showed almost perfect execution, but it seems to me the Code S players show overall a better understanding of the game and more attuned builds. Sadly, this goes against the "excitement" of the match as SC2 heavily favors the "Two-base timing push" style.
Therefore, i would say TSL is more exciting on the initial rounds, but starting from Ro8, it's gonna be korean packed and probably, it will look like just like GSL (good gaming, but a little boring).
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I think the poll results would look very different if it was made right before the GSL5 finals occurred. Right now they GSL hype is over and the (disappointing) finals has left a somewhat bitter aftertaste for many people while the TSL hype train has been in full swing and the tournament has just started.
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While i like both GSL and TSL, i prefer the GSL just because you play live to avoid issues of cheating, cross-server lags and dcs.
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