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[Veganism] Fucking humanity - Page 4
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
Okay fine, I do, but I'm not giving up my meat. > | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:58 RobbybabyDTF wrote: Vegans, from what I've seen, are just attention whores(no offence). On par with the most flamboyant gay people to be honest.(no offence again.) I wish they would quit wasting their time preaching about this stuff. No offense, but that's fairly narrow-minded. Do you mean to tell me that activists and groups who feel strongly about certain evils are attention-seekers? How does that make any sense? | ||
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mytent
United States156 Posts
[Humanity] Fucking Veganism. Seriously. There are HUMAN BEINGS being treated worse than this around the world in 3rd world countries. And you're worried about some cows? Fuck you. User was warned for this post | ||
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:57 senichi wrote: Not gonna lie, that is inhumane and cruel, but not all meat producing plants do that. We're not herbivores, it's insanely unhealthy to go about not eating meat/dairy, and all those glorious foodstuffs. Not eating it is only harming yourself, which in turn not only makes yourself suffer (Isn't that what you're fighting against, suffering animals? Guess what, humans are animals, too) and when you suffer, it makes your friends and families suffer. Not eating meat isn't going to stop ANY of this at all. In fact, it's disrespectful to the animals themselves. Native Americans, you know those people known for how in tune they were to the planet and animals that walk upon it, they not only ate meat, but they wore leather, and they made weapons and tools made out of bones. Why did they do this? Because when an animal dies, they want to make sure that it doesn't die for no reason. If you stop eating animals, all that's going to happen is the meat that's produced has a higher chance of going bad, and the lives you're trying to protect are going to be wasted because you're too blind to see any of this. In my opinion, vegans are dicks. Ban me now. I don't want to browse this forum anymore. The fact that this much stupidity could be contained in such a small paragraph has caused me to lose all faith in this forum. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:58 HotKimchi wrote: Omnivore for 22 years now. Never been healthier in my life. More power to you man! Carnivore for 22 years now. I take about 3 hours in the bathroom on a better day. Life's great | ||
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0mar
United States567 Posts
Secondly, eating meat is a very basic human behavior. Mankind evolved to eat meat. We have canines for tearing flesh and a relatively small digestive tract which can digest meat and flesh easily but struggles to digest tough, plant material. We cannot produce many amino acids or vitamins because of our reliance on obtaining them from animal food sources. Sure, in today's world you can supplement or import exotic plants for consumption, but for human beings living on the Serengeti, we relied on meat to meet our biochemical inadequacy. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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hamy710
Australia160 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:59 Lexpar wrote: Can you expand on this? You're saying that the market takes so long to shift, that even if a significant portion of the population decided not to buy meat it would take so long for the market to adjust that it doesn't really matter pigs die anyway? I don't understand. If we can agree that killing animals is fundamentally a bad thing, and we kill X animals per day as a species, as long as X becomes a smaller number over time, we're doing a good thing. So 50% of the population stops eating meat NOW. Sure X animals will continue to die for weeks, months, but then of course companies will have to halve their production or else go out of business. A good thing is done. So what are you saying? The fact that X won't change for a month means being vegetarian isn't worth it? You are presuming so many things that reexplaining what I'm saying is daunting and almost too irritating to do so. Reread the post and try to refrain from making so many implications. There's only one Waldo to find my statements. | ||
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BlindSC2
United Kingdom435 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:36 Lexpar wrote: I'm not going to research your argument. That makes no sense within the scheme of a debate. Why should I work to prove you right? If you want to make a point (that's fundamentally wrong in the first place), at least attempt support it. I've not heard of a single study that "proves" that human beings need meat". Every nutrient, vitamin, fat, and protein that is found in livestock can be found in plants. Prove me wrong? Thats the most moronic post Ive ever heard. You wont research his side of the argument since its 'obviously' wrong, then you demand that he proves you wrong. 'I've not heard of a single study that.....' THEN FUCKING RESEARCH FOR ONE YOU RETARD. Whether youre right or not atleast make yourself appear slightly better than an outright douche Jesus Now thats over, I enjoy meat and dairy but I always buy products where I know the animals have been treated well and have lived and been killed in a humane way. Not because I feel guilty or anything, just respect for another organism Humans on a mass scale need and want variety in their diet, including meat. Since humans are on the top of the food chain, largely due to our relative intelligence, we have the luxury of choosing our meat But we should also employ our intelligence and evolved ethics and philosophy to atleast show restraint and not go back to just being barbaric eaters in the wild but on a mass scale. We can have infinate and strangling political correctness to enforce 'respect' and 'tolerance' on a human society but we still just stab animals in the neck with a knife? Come on And yea I know humans seem to be split into various groups, namely the mentally backward and the mentally forward, but thats just how it is. Freak cases of individual animal cruelty like punching a calf isnt normal, the guy that did it should be in a mental hospital IMO | ||
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
eat what you want ... I also work in a Vegan Kitchen (I hate the food love the pay) And most of our clients are people trying to loss weight by getting french fries, deep fried fake chicken nuggets and fake tuna melt. silly fools. | ||
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Ridiculisk
Australia191 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/scottpilgrim/images/4/42/Vegan.jpg) | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
You do realize that swaying one person of your views isn't going to change much and even then, I'm sure the video would do a better job and either hardening his views or shocking him to your logic. These topics always drag out aggressiveness. It's like religion all over again. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 09 2011 13:19 TwoToneTerran wrote: That's actually the opposite of how it works. Supply and demand, the less people want something the cheaper it is... How is that the opposite? | ||
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Render
United States249 Posts
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stepover12
United States175 Posts
"Farm animals feel pain just like your puppy does"!?! Well duh! Pain is the main signal helping animals identify things that are not good for their survival. What's your point you silly video? Seriously, this video probably aims to evoke emotional reaction instead of rational reaction. That doesn't help viewers see the real problem. Unnecessarily violence and sadism is not good. I'm also concerned about the skin diseases, since it's not healthy to eat sick animals. | ||
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HotKimchi
United States64 Posts
As she pounces on her prey and grasps along the neck to drag the beast down to the ground. She holds the throat of the animal bleeding and suffocating it to death. Sometimes when the animal is not dead the pack still eats the still breathing animals body causing it agonizing pain. The lions then leave the carcass that still has meat, bone, fat, hide and other usable products. Only some of which is picked clean by scavengers. The bones then deteriorate into the ground to fuel the earth with more elements. Fucking majestic and deep. Humans kill animals and use the meat, hide, bones, and fat in products to feed and clothe humans. The rest is either burned or dumped to return to the earth. Fucking monsters. See the point im trying to make here? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Kakera
United States419 Posts
On February 09 2011 14:04 BlindGamer wrote: Thats the most moronic post Ive ever heard. You wont research his side of the argument since its 'obviously' wrong, then you demand that he proves you wrong. 'I've not heard of a single study that.....' THEN FUCKING RESEARCH FOR ONE YOU RETARD. Whether youre right or not atleast make yourself appear slightly better than an outright douche Jesus Sarcasm, you just don't get it. | ||
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Ezekyle
Australia607 Posts
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