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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 17:51:56
December 30 2010 17:46 GMT
#1
dunno if this point has been brought up, but anyone ever look into microing sunks vs MM breaks? perhaps perfecting the technique can lead to saving 1 or even 2 sunks.

sunk does 20 damage to marines, so if microed completely perfectly(tested and confirmed this), 2 sunks kill a marine in 1 'bomb' (using muta micro terminology), rather then 3 killing one.

sunk WOULD kill med in 3 shots, but the med starts off with +1 armor, so it only takes 19 damage. meaning 4 shots kill a med in one 'bomb'

maybe there we would even learn how different angles and things like that effect sunk's shooting, and timing we need to press 1rightclick2rightclick. imo its something relatively simple that can change Z metagame

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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
December 30 2010 18:02 GMT
#2
congratulations for you discovering micro.
very important element on brood war. of course this issue has brought up in a game that is 12 years old.
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
December 30 2010 18:03 GMT
#3
The problem with this is that it's too micro intensive.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
December 30 2010 18:04 GMT
#4
On December 31 2010 03:03 XXGeneration wrote:
The problem with this is that it's too micro intensive.

kidding rite? zergs micro sunks all the time. at least I do when playing zerg, and not just vs terran.
I'm even sure that I've seen thread like this before.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 18:12:29
December 30 2010 18:06 GMT
#5
It's not too micro intensive lol...

Since Terrans don't do sparks Terran much anymore it's not that important, but it used to be pretty common practice.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=sunken micro&t=ct&f=-1&u=&gb=date

edit: ah, sorry that search kind of sucked. Just a bunch of noob Terrans not knowing how to break sunkens. I was never really good at it so maybe someone can explain the basic premise to you. I remember you have to hotkey both and then attack a single marine, but in practice it was never that simple because they each be cooling down at a different time.
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[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
December 30 2010 18:12 GMT
#6
actually its more important to micro the sunkens against the firebats in an MM force - kill the firebats first, and the zerglings are infinitely more powerful.

I remember SC2GG Rise cast 1 game where Jaedong forgot to micro sunkens against firebats, and he lost to FROZEAN of all people haha.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1979 Posts
December 30 2010 18:20 GMT
#7
This is used all the time; I use it to focus archons zvp and in general vs Terran midgame rushes. It's even mentioned in the liquipedia sparks article - "Hotkey the sunkens and manually focusing fire with 2 sunkens on 1 marine. "
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 19:00:03
December 30 2010 18:59 GMT
#8
On December 31 2010 03:03 XXGeneration wrote:
The problem with this is that it's too micro intensive.

I always have to do it, M&M is rigged.
And those SCV marine all-ins are so strong...gotta target marines.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 19:21:47
December 30 2010 19:20 GMT
#9
The thing with bw is that its such an old and developed game that usually when you think of an idea that you think is game changing there's an incredibly high chance that its already well known. So looking through the search function is a good idea before making a thread about it. Though bw is a developed game its so complex that there are still lots of ideas that are still fairly untested. Keep it up
ils
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
December 30 2010 19:35 GMT
#10
Metagamed.
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