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kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 10:13:59
November 30 2010 10:06 GMT
#21
I votet two times another reason:

The hate for real madrid comes from the way they approach football.
Football should be blood, sweat and tears, at least from the romantic point of view. It is about fighting for each other and running your lungs out. It is about hard work and getting the loan for it. A metaphor of life, that at least in my eyes made it so popular (yes, pathetic). It's why teams like Nürnberg, Newcastle, Gijon, Chievo have Fans. No glamour or titles at the end of the road. Just another avoided or hit relegation.

Nothing of what Real Madrid stands for, at least for me. Real Madrid stands for buying the best players instead of educating them. It stands for spending money of the city of Madrid and the state of Spain instead of their own (financial background has been very suspicious for at least 20 years now).
Thats why I don't like Real Madrid. Call it envy, for me this club just is not what football should be.

Why I don't like Ronaldo is because he is like a 12 year old girl stealing mama's makeup to make herself pretty. I think that guy needs to grow up and didn't get the chance to.
Don't get me wrong, he is an awesome football player, although (maybe because) his useless stepover actions on the outer wing. Speed, shooting technique, ball control, striking, crossing, display of the court, everything fantastic.
But as a person, he just seems like a cock (the bird of course) dancing around trying to hide his doubts (whatever they are) behind a fassade of glamour. Which is childish.
He behaves like some white guys wanting to be the cool gangster rapper bad guy in a german high school.
But aswell as them it just doesnt suit him other than makes him laughable. Which is a shame for such a great football player and person of media interest.
I don't blame him for getting thrown so much money at his doorstep in the ends of his youth so that he didn't get a chance to develope dignity, still it stands disturbing.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
November 30 2010 10:06 GMT
#22
On November 30 2010 18:51 revoN wrote:
It's been said already that RM is a 'buy' team (but what team isn't?) and it's enough a reason for me to hate them (actually I hate all teams). I feel no connection to a bunch of random players from all over the world being brought together by some (big) cash. Only the national teams are worth following.

Also Ronaldo is an arrogant dick.

Man United? I believe they started the trend of raising young players. Yeah they do buy players every now and again, but RM takes it to the extreme (like Chelsea during Mourinho's reign).

And C. Ronaldo, most expensive diver ever since he left Man U.
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Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 10:13:52
November 30 2010 10:11 GMT
#23
On November 30 2010 19:06 kazansky wrote:
I votet two times another reason:


Nothing of what Real Madrid stands for, at least for me. Real Madrid stands for buying the best players instead of educating them. It stands for spending money of the city of Madrid and the state of Spain instead of their own (financial background has been very suspicious for at least 20 years now).
Thats why I don't like Real Madrid. Call it envy, for me this club just is not what football should be.




Honestly, you have no clue what you are talking about if you say Real Madrid is spending the money of Madrid or Spain, you can say all the bad things about their players or how they play you want, but saying Real Madrid is not one of the best clubs in the world making money, if not the best one, is beeing preety clueless
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 30 2010 10:21 GMT
#24
On November 30 2010 19:11 Matkap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 19:06 kazansky wrote:
I votet two times another reason:


Nothing of what Real Madrid stands for, at least for me. Real Madrid stands for buying the best players instead of educating them. It stands for spending money of the city of Madrid and the state of Spain instead of their own (financial background has been very suspicious for at least 20 years now).
Thats why I don't like Real Madrid. Call it envy, for me this club just is not what football should be.




Honestly, you have no clue what you are talking about if you say Real Madrid is spending the money of Madrid or Spain, you can say all the bad things about their players or how they play you want, but saying Real Madrid is not one of the best clubs in the world making money, if not the best one, is beeing preety clueless


Never said they don't have a fantastic marketing departement. Buying players like Ronaldo or Beckham and refund only on jerseys is great, definetily. I guess at the moment they are the most expensive football brand in the world (always struggling for first with Manchester United).
But it's not their money they spend.
City of Madrid gave them money officially or behind the back (selling and reselling training grounds e.g.), as well as the state.
The money they spend in the galacticos era was not the money of the club, but of estate lion Perez.
And they hardly made any profit during that era, he dumped 300 million euros in the club. Which may be legit in Spain, England or Italy, but in countries with real licensing based on a clubs economical performance like France or Germany, the club would have been degraded and delicensed a long time ago.

You should try to dig in the numbers of economic performance of the top clubs in Europe.
The only one not sinking deep in the reds and being economical swift at the moment is Bayern Munich (and, this be said, I hate them more than any other club in the world).
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Rouel
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden138 Posts
November 30 2010 10:24 GMT
#25
I have nothing against Real Madrid the club. Their successful marketing is overall a positive for the sport.
What I dislike is most Real Madrid fans.
I can respect the ones with a clue but they're severely outnumbered by confrontational numbnuts obsessed with "best".
Fanboys comes with the territory of having the highest popularity, if not Real Madrid it'll be another club that's the most popular.
Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
November 30 2010 10:27 GMT
#26
they got a recalifications (spelling? dont even know if that is the word in English to be honest) on the terrains that they had for training in one of the best zones in Madrid and then sold it, nothing false about that, bot not anything illegal, dodgy, nor does that money come from public fonds in any way, that is private.

Recently they had a loan from a bank, Caja Madrid, but that is nothing public or of the state, is just a Bank loaning money, and they more than prooved exactly how they would pay it.

A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
November 30 2010 10:37 GMT
#27
i dont personally have anything against real madrid. i really loved the old madrid with figo, zidane, carlos, (the real) ronaldo etc they were so good at football - better than the current barca even. but man its easy to hate c. ronaldo. spastic idiot who has too much talent than he knows what to do with. the way he throws arrogant tantrums/strops is another of his features which make him a complete joke. there are other things too. he does nothing in big games yet still has the audacity to announce that hes gonna score hat-tricks before barca games

tldr: madrid are fine ronaldo is a massive idiot who has nothing going for him besides talent
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
November 30 2010 10:48 GMT
#28
On November 30 2010 18:24 Tenshik wrote:
What if I were to say I hate RM because they play "football" and I consider it to be a lame sport? Would you be willing to add that to your poll?


What do you mean by 'they play "football" and i consider it to be a lame sport?' ?
Just give it to me straight please
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
November 30 2010 10:49 GMT
#29
Hes Most paid footballer in the world, Fucked more than Wilt Chamberlain, good looking...

thats why i hate him
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kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 30 2010 10:51 GMT
#30
On November 30 2010 19:27 Matkap wrote:
they got a recalifications (spelling? dont even know if that is the word in English to be honest) on the terrains that they had for training in one of the best zones in Madrid and then sold it, nothing false about that, bot not anything illegal, dodgy, nor does that money come from public fonds in any way, that is private.

Recently they had a loan from a bank, Caja Madrid, but that is nothing public or of the state, is just a Bank loaning money, and they more than prooved exactly how they would pay it.



They have two loans running for each 75 million euros, that's normal.
But it's only for players from the mid 00s, the players of the era before were bought by Perez privately, I don't know if that would be even legal in Germany.
Mendoza and Sanz almost ruined the club, if Perez wouldn't have pumped private money in, it would have run bankrupt.
The salvage of the training ground went to EU monopoly commission and was dropped due to lack of clearance without ambiguity, not repelled as far as I can remember.
It was sports ground and sold as business ground with Spanish state subventions.
Funny enough, you can't find anything about that on english wikipedia, it's lined out on the german one. I'm at work at the moment, if I find time I can translate it later.
I don't want to rant on Real or anything, just line out facts.
Bottom line is, what I said, slightly suspicious financial background. It's hard to compare to other circumstances of course, but if Real was not in Madrid, who knows how that story would have ended.
It ended very badly for other ancient clubs in other countries, let's say it that way.

It's quite what they are argueing about at the moment in UEFA when it comes to financial fair play policies.

"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
November 30 2010 10:57 GMT
#31
On November 30 2010 18:48 fallingdream wrote:
How can a team be considered overrated and then say they have the most Champions League wins? Can you not spot the obvious fail in the statement?
I do agree that the RM we once knew and loved is pretty much gone : /


Well the past doesn't predict the future.
So i CAN consider a team to be overrated AND say they have the most Champions League wins. Because a club with a good history record can be shitty in its current form (e.g Liverpool)

A few years ago, a wise old man told me this:

"Chelsea may have no history but Liverpool's got no future"

And lo and behold, Liverpool crawling away from relegation zone while Chelsea is fighting for 1st place.
KoN_Ulla
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway15 Posts
November 30 2010 11:11 GMT
#32
think liverpool is back on top in a couple of years, they aint gonna "take a leeds".

I also loved R.Madrid when Zidane was there, havent followed primera division after he and Ronaldhinio left, but I like R.Madrid better then Barcelona. Barcelona plays so booring football imo, passing the ball 70% of the time, so booring to watch endless passes. The goals yesterday was nice, but I rather watch R.Madrid over Barcelona, and im awere of that Barca propably is the best team in the world atm.

Don't watch any r.madrid ether, Premier Leauge ftw! I also like Ronaldo over Messi, propably because im a United fan.

and to the OP, I think Rangers - Celtic is the most rivaly teams in the world, they got religion on top of football
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 30 2010 11:22 GMT
#33
Ronaldo makes shampoo advertisements in China.
I wanna slap him everytime I see it.

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kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 30 2010 11:26 GMT
#34
On November 30 2010 20:22 endy wrote:
Ronaldo makes shampoo advertisements in China.
I wanna slap him everytime I see it.

[image loading]


Oh god that's hilarious :-) I would feel the same. Didn't know he is spread out that wide.
I thought Chinese sport advertisements consists of mainly Pingpong players? (serious question)
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Pehbeh
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany57 Posts
November 30 2010 11:37 GMT
#35
you call that hatred? go to germany and say something positive about munich, outside of Bavaria. You are a lucky dude if you get out of there with all bones intact.
BigBadSkathe
Profile Joined September 2009
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 11:54:40
November 30 2010 11:53 GMT
#36
On November 30 2010 19:05 faction123 wrote:
rofl Real corrupting the sport? They do the same thing every other rich club in the entire world does. Anyone who'd say that about Real truly pays no attention to the sport.

Same thing with Ronaldo. He's a cunt, but DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE GAME? Both teams do the same shit. Barca were even diving & appealing for cards when they're already 4-0 up.

No one can come up with a logical reason to hate Real, at least not more than Barca, unless you're actually from Barcelona and support the club.


I agree with your post, but why does someone have to be from Barcelona to be passionate about supporting the club and hating rivals?
Hey.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
November 30 2010 12:22 GMT
#37
Both Messi and Ronaldo embarrassed themselves with 2 episodes

The difference is that Messi still played a immense game, he was all over the pitch and that will cloud over his little play acting, his 2 killer passes to Villa are world class.

Ronaldo however does not have a moment like that, he is notorious even from his time in United for simply dissapearing in big games. When people talk Ronaldo, the most noteworthy thing is that he gave a slight push to Guardiola.


Then you see Pepe beat up a guy last season, Ramos being a total douche and Ronaldo and his pissing and moaning, its very difficult to like a club like Madrid, because they go out of their way to be dirty. Same as Inter Milan, compared to the more historically flashy Ac Milan side.
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ddod
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria144 Posts
November 30 2010 12:30 GMT
#38
I hate C. Ronaldo becouse he has slept with like 6 out of my top10 women list. Daamn Paris why'd you do that?
Black snake is evil, black snake is all I see.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 30 2010 12:39 GMT
#39
Barcelona crushed RM but i believe RM will win the championship because Mourinho is that good!

And btw now that mourinho is there they have team spirit and won't buy 10 players per year because he doesn't need them! they will just buy 1, 2 or 3 players per year just to tune some stuff!

i like both teams tho!

And C.Ronaldo might be a prick, smug etc.. but doesn't he play really good? hehe
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thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
November 30 2010 12:41 GMT
#40
On November 30 2010 18:09 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 17:58 Liveon wrote:
I don't like Real Madrid because they literally 'buy' a team. They buy great players and never use them again (Van der Vaart, Robben, Sneijder), all topplayers on their clubs right now, but they were not good enough for RM it seemed.
I also don't like Ronaldo, crappy crybaby.


Yes, this, so much this

I despise Real Madrid, they have literally NO team-spirit at all, they just go around and buy the (supposedly) "best" players around and 50% of them end up becoming crap because there is no team.
I can't even enumerate how many extraordinary players never got to play because RM didn't even bother giving them some time to work theirselves into the team after 1-2 bad games. They just go and buy new guys.

Barcelona on the other hand is the exact opposite, they "create" good players and don't just "buy" them. The "real" Ronaldo got big with Barcelona, Ronaldinho got big with Barcelona, Figo got big with Barcelona, now Messi got big with Barcelona. The only player I could think of who grew inside of RM was Raul, the rest of the players WERE good when RM bought them but got worse afterwards (Zidane, Figo, Beckham...just the most famous ones).

EDIT: the reason ppl hate "fake" Ronaldo has nothing to do with that, I believe, he is just an incredibly arrogant, pretentious smug.


i also agree with this post.
i remember the days when RM had zidane, ronaldo (from brazil), beckham, carlos....etc.
they did terrific no doubt as they had such a "name-built" team so to say, but they really did not exceed any expectations. they did not win as much as anyone really expected them too. i'm not saying they never won, im just saying the "dream-team" never met the bar it had set.

many of the players who play/played for real madrid were also developed in other clubs and then transfered to real madrid. kaka should never have left milan in my opinion, and this may be my manchester united bias but now christiano ronaldo has been transfered to RM at a "record fee".
sure hes a jerk, but hes such a good player. its almost like his ego matches his skill. many hate him because he is a douche, but people are always thinking of ways to hate others. give the guy a break. when you play at such a competitive level, sometimes its hard not to be arrogant and whiny.

but yeah overall, i dont really think anyone "hates" RM. i think its more of that they create hype they do not meet quite a bit, and just loves buying players instead of creating them a lot of the time.

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