I was reading the Barcelona vs Real Madrid thread (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171890) and noticed alot of hate against Real Madrid. I mean the two teams are rivals but i never seen such strong hate before, and its not like you see man united fans hating on arsenal afaik. I'm not really involved in Primera Division anymore than watching the highlights of the matches, but i do know quite a bit about RM:
1. They are the richest club in the world (ironically) as far as the public is concerned 2. They play very defensive football, which alot of people may argue that it is not the true way of football (it is quite boring). 3. Considered to be overrated. 4. Have the most Champions League wins Could one of these points be why people hate RM so much?
Poll: Which of the 4 points made above is the reason for hating RM?
None of the above (post your reason) (54)
68%
No.1 (10)
13%
No.3 (8)
10%
No.2 (5)
6%
No.4 (3)
4%
80 total votes
Your vote: Which of the 4 points made above is the reason for hating RM?
(Vote): No.1 (Vote): No.2 (Vote): No.3 (Vote): No.4 (Vote): None of the above (post your reason)
But could it be that people hate RM because there is something wrong with the whole club or just because of Ronaldo? I mainly watch Premier League and Ronaldo used to play for Man United.
A bit about Ronaldo during the time he was in Man United:
a) Scored more goals in a season than his fellow strikers (he was right wing in Man United, I think he changed to striker in RM)
b) Often falls over, suspicions arouse as to whether he was pushed over or just dived
c) RM offered a ridiculously high amount of money (highest in the world up to now, 80 million pounds i think, 2nd highest is 31 million pounds) to buy him (some might argue that that money is better spent elsewhere)
d) Considered to be the "one-man" in the one-man team (which is not the true way of soccer, and that only happens when you play fifa)
e) Incident occured in world cup 2006 where Ronaldo seemingly indirectly provoked Rooney into a red card, and then winking to his teammates,(something suspicious going on)
Could one of these points be why people hate Ronaldo so much?
Poll: Which of the 5 points made above is the reason for hating Ronaldo?
b (38)
73%
None of the above (post your reason) (6)
12%
c (3)
6%
d (3)
6%
e (2)
4%
a (0)
0%
52 total votes
Your vote: Which of the 5 points made above is the reason for hating Ronaldo?
I don't like Real Madrid because they literally 'buy' a team. They buy great players and never use them again (Van der Vaart, Robben, Sneijder), all topplayers on their clubs right now, but they were not good enough for RM it seemed. I also don't like Ronaldo, crappy crybaby.
On November 30 2010 17:58 Liveon wrote: I don't like Real Madrid because they literally 'buy' a team. They buy great players and never use them again (Van der Vaart, Robben, Sneijder), all topplayers on their clubs right now, but they were not good enough for RM it seemed. I also don't like Ronaldo, crappy crybaby.
Yes, this, so much this
I despise Real Madrid, they have literally NO team-spirit at all, they just go around and buy the (supposedly) "best" players around and 50% of them end up becoming crap because there is no team. I can't even enumerate how many extraordinary players never got to play because RM didn't even bother giving them some time to work theirselves into the team after 1-2 bad games. They just go and buy new guys.
Barcelona on the other hand is the exact opposite, they "create" good players and don't just "buy" them. The "real" Ronaldo got big with Barcelona, Ronaldinho got big with Barcelona, Figo got big with Barcelona, now Messi got big with Barcelona. The only player I could think of who grew inside of RM was Raul, the rest of the players WERE good when RM bought them but got worse afterwards (Zidane, Figo, Beckham...just the most famous ones).
EDIT: the reason ppl hate "fake" Ronaldo has nothing to do with that, I believe, he is just an incredibly arrogant, pretentious smug.
I actually like the counter attack type of football they play, but the "defense" they play consists of intimidation and dirty football. Pepe just mugs people and hopes that the ref does not see it and Ronaldo is just a terrible arrogant person, as illustrated by his cheap shot on FC Barcelona's coach (I have never seen such a thing before). I'm not saying that Real Madrid has always been an unclassy bunch of cheap players, but the current squad is a joke of a football club. They will only win against clubs they can intimidate or clubs that have a poor quality midfield that can't get back on the counter.
#Stoned Why are you posting handegg video with terrible teenage music in a football thread about Real Madrid and C. Ronaldo?
I think most people hate Read Madrid is because they cheer for Barcelona instead. Most people think Barcelona plays some of the best football and Real Madrid is just their biggest rivals. Therefore it's natural to dislike them. In my view many young people tend to like Real Madrid and older like Barcelona.
C. Ronaldo is a lady boy who dives too much. He was stupid in the beginning of his career were he dove 24/7. But he is a good player. -.-
I don't like neither Barcelona or Real Madrid to be honest. But I dislike Real Madrid while I have nothing towards Barca. Reason why I don't like Real is because of the way they are corrupting the sport. The salaries that they're paying, could've been invested in their youth academy and by now, it would've payed off far greater. Instead, they try to integrate big star names in their team by buying them from elsewhere. They won't develop a player, but they'll rather use it and then throw it away. Royston Drenthe I believe is a prime example of that. Hunterlaar as well. Barca on the other had, invests a lot of their money into their youngsters. People like Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and Busquets would've never developed into the players they are now, if Barca just did what Real does. As for Ronaldo, I just don't like his lack of "cojones" and that's all. He always tries to outsmart the rules, by faking stuff or by acting like an idiot. IMO, in that last "El Classico", Ronaldo and Carvalho should've been sent off way before the classical idiot Sergio Ramos got sent off.
Personally I have a huge problem with Ronaldo with his arrogant attitude, crying, faking stuff constantly. No matter how good he is I just can't enjoy his play as long has he continues with this behavior. However he was awesome to watch in Man United together with Rooney, but now I really couldn't care less about him. Fed up with his crap.
It's also hard not to like Barca's style of play when they are playing at full capacity. I think that's why many tend to cheer for Barca in El Clasico.
Don't turn this into soccer vs football, and dont feed the trolls when they do appear. Jesus, you guys are like internet kindergarteners. I feel like I need to hold your hands when we go over a bridge.
After Carlos left there hasn't been a good player in Real Madrid. All egoistic & overrated crap.
Ronaldo is the most overrated thing ever, had one good lucky season. Acts/looks like a baby. Dives more than anyone and doesn't know shit about teamwork or giving 110% on the field. Didn't like him in ManU, didn't really care when he went to Real Madrid. People say he has great technique, Quaresma taught him everything & is 1000x more baller anyways.
Its true maybe that Real Madrid is buying more players right now, but come on, corrupting the sport? because of the salaries or high prices of the players?
Do you know how much did Ibrahimovich cost? maybe more than Cristiano Ronaldo.
Was Villa Free?
How Much does Messi win?
That Barca doesnt trash players? what about Rivaldo? Ronaldinho? and many more, barca has always been the specialist in getting rid of their top players the second they dont like them..
And we dont have many players from here, but you are all saying you cant even think of one good player that we have right now from our football school, really? Maybe the best GK in the world and our captain?
And btw, that someone mentioned it, drenthe didnt do shit last year. And Ronaldo did go big with barcelona, then got injured, didnt do much in Inter, and got big again in Real Madrid.
Obviously I am a Madrid supporter, and I totally accept that we got totally owned yesterday, just wanted to point out a few things.
And as for C. Ronaldo, he is a little cry baby, no point denying that, and me and all my friends are quite tired of it
How can a team be considered overrated and then say they have the most Champions League wins? Can you not spot the obvious fail in the statement? I do agree that the RM we once knew and loved is pretty much gone : /
It's been said already that RM is a 'buy' team (but what team isn't?) and it's enough a reason for me to hate them (actually I hate all teams). I feel no connection to a bunch of random players from all over the world being brought together by some (big) cash. Only the national teams are worth following.
Historically , i am pretty sure Real Madrid is hated because the amount of help King of Spain ( or was it Dictator Franco) has given them. Both because political reasons ( Spain vs Catalan) as well as because they are the king's fav team.
Nowadays i think it's because they keep reshuffling their team with increasingly more expensive players each time. It is probably also the arrogant way in which they do their transfers although Barcelona is not excused on this matter as well.
One thing I don't like about Real Madrid is them kicking succesful managers. I don't understand them kicking managers who just won the Champions League or even claimed the title against all odds like Capello. It also bewilders me how they can gain crazy loans based on potential future revenue in which case they fail to pay, they will probably get bailed out again as they have so many times in the past :S
rofl Real corrupting the sport? They do the same thing every other rich club in the entire world does. Anyone who'd say that about Real truly pays no attention to the sport.
Same thing with Ronaldo. He's a cunt, but DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE GAME? Both teams do the same shit. Barca were even diving & appealing for cards when they're already 4-0 up.
No one can come up with a logical reason to hate Real, at least not more than Barca, unless you're actually from Barcelona and support the club.
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