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AyJay
1515 Posts
On October 16 2010 20:31 nekuodah wrote: Really? he did improve as the gsl went on but i still think he lacked alot of knowledge. Tasteless WAS best BW caster ever I'm so sad he can't live up to quality in GSL. PROVE ME WRONG TASTELESS  edit: also if this was day9 I wouldn't blame him for talking too much because co-caster doesn't know anything | ||
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davidcroda
United States7 Posts
It got really popular because he was giving out quality strategic information that wasn't readily available elsewhere. But now it seems like every day is a "theme" day and Day9 spends most of the time giggling at his own jokes and talking funny. I enjoy the cast for the most part, but they seem like they are getting less and less useful and more of just a way to kill time. I hope he realizes this and gets back to his roots because the cast can be a great source of invaluable information. That is why so many people watch it, not because 10k people love staring at his face. It doesn't help when 9k of the people in chat are just drooling all over you though | ||
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Flanlord
265 Posts
When I saw him casting King of the Beta with JP, I thought there was a heavier leaning on Day[9]'s side, but that it was fairly fitting for the event, and worked as a good dynamic as Day[9] has insane amounts of SC knowledge and can really accurately predict outcomes of battles and guess the next step, while JP offers some amazing color commentary and bounce-back discussion. At MLG Raleigh we saw that pairing again, and again I found myself enjoying the commentary, it was to the point, and entertaining. At Raleigh we also saw him paired with HD and Husky. Both of whom seemed to be almost uncomfortable or nervous, as they were quiet compared to JP. But it wasn't like Day[9] was 'hogging' the air time, it got to the point that during many of the games he had to outright ask them something to get them involved in the cast. (More so for HD than Husky.) (This seemed super awkward and is something you will almost never see in balanced caster pairings.) What I like about Day[9] is that he knows what he is talking about, and I think him playing as random really helps that a lot. I can't stand some other casters who don't know as much, don't play at the level Day[9] usually does, and have it influence their commentary. It got to the point where I can't watch HD's casts because each time he says "I really don't understand why he's doing this." or "I really disagree with this." and it is something you see frequently from top-end players, or an obvious tech change. (~I don't understand why he's getting those corrupters... ...Oh he's morphing in brood lords!) TL:DR version: I like Day[9]'s casting, I think the co-casting issues I've seen/heard haven't really been on his side of the pairings I've heard. When the other caster is comfortable with Day[9] it generally makes for a great cast, but sometimes they seem awkward or uncomfortable and it just gets bad. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
Paired with co-casters like djWheat, there was not any such problem because djWheat is such a veteran with good skill, knowledge and charm. The combo with JP also works to a certain extent. I am also sure if he casted with Artosis, no such "hogging problem" will exist. I remembered Chill being a good co-caster as well. So i think it is the other co-casters that is lacking. So i think the ball is on the cocasters to improve and not drag day9 down. | ||
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Cybren
United States206 Posts
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
On October 16 2010 20:45 AyJay wrote: Tasteless WAS best BW caster ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkvHI0Jdl2g&p=EECA97B0DBF383E5 I'm so sad he can't live up to quality in GSL. PROVE ME WRONG TASTELESS edit: also if this was day9 I wouldn't blame him for talking too much because co-caster doesn't know anything Watching this stream when it was live made me start playing BW and never stop. Tasteless was by far the most SICK commentator and I find it very demoralizing to see him making into a "job". His passion is gone he's just in it for the $$$ now. You can tell he doesn't play the game like he used to and you can tell he doesn't have the same love he had for SC1. On topic, day9 is so good I wish he was casting alone tbh :< or maybe just with Chill. | ||
Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
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Wolfpox
Canada164 Posts
Frankly I think the irrational fanboyism surrounding him is the problem, he's a great guy and has good insight but I wouldnt be surprised if it just created this inflated ego. I certainly got the impression he was self-absorbed during the IEG interview | ||
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Jhax
Ireland201 Posts
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Jenslyn87
Denmark527 Posts
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d20
United States17 Posts
I think that the more experienced and knowledgeable about Starcraft his co-caster is, the more they will appear on equal footing in terms of casting. Plott brothers co-casting in the future please. <33 | ||
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
I still remember from last MLG, when HD admited he plays only about 'one game a week' and Day9 just spent the rest of the cast laughing at him off and on. Seriously, if you're going to comment on Starcraft, you should be passionate about the game, not passionate about your e-fame. Day9 is far less guilty of this than HD and Huskey. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
Day[9] is one of few who can actually keep it together legitimately. | ||
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Grond
599 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On October 16 2010 21:21 Grond wrote: Obviously the answer is to have Day 9 and Tasteless co-cast. Then any issues can be settled in the time honored brotherly tradition. Fisticuffs. Day9 and Tasteless are like Sasuke and Naruto. Someday, they will meet, and it will be epic. | ||
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
i think its absolutly ok if casters dont have equal talking time, as long as they know what they are talking about / are entertaining the crowd | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
He needs to do a better job with finding a balance with his co-casters. But sometimes his co-casters just aren't that good or maybe they're just not a good mix with him. At Raleigh, HD and Husky looked very nervous. I think this was fine since it was their first time doing it live (and everyone has to start somewhere). They just didn't know how to carry a live show and fill in dead air time while dealing with the production crew. (That's what it seemed like anyway. I wasn't there.) And I'm not just talking about the times when they were paired with Day9. When they were together there were some really awkward pauses throughout, especially when there wasn't a game on. TheGunrun at IEM was a different problem, I think. I didn't watch all of it, but from what little I watched there almost literally wasn't a single time he spoke up when the conversation didn't go something like this: Day9: [blah blah blah] TheGunrun: Yeah, [blah blah blah]. Definitely. Definitely. TheGunrun: *chuckles* Day9 would say something about the game, end on a joke or observation, and then pause for TheGunrun to jump in. TheGunrun would then just repeat that last little joke or observation, say, "yeah", "definitely", chuckle, or a combination of those three. You could tell that he was reaching for something more to add or he was reaching to add his own spin on a joke, but it just wasn't coming. And then Day9 would just jump back in. Then again; After watching the Tasteless video above, I wouldn't mind just having Day9 with a pretty girl with a cute voice co-casting with him. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On October 16 2010 20:21 Beyonder wrote: I think I agree. I love the guy and I love it when he casts, but in my opinion he needs to switch between roles based upon his caster/co-caster. And his 'ah ah' and then total topic switches between what he wants to say are a bit awkward  Still such a great caster though, but there's some room for improvement Concerning the 'ah ah', I think he does that mostly when he is doing some parallel stuff, like talking to the players in the lobby and similar, it is not easy to talk to two sets of people at the same time Sometimes it happens also while commenting the game when he gets into his thoughts about something new he never saw before and he seems to forget he is casting and starts to think about this new exciting intellectual problem. And he should work on this, but it happens reasonably rarely. And yeah he seems to have small problem with taking the spotlight, but I don't think it is some ego thing, he just has to get used to his co-casters which is hard when it is someone else every event. | ||
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