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On October 16 2010 20:24 Madkipz wrote:
Day9 is not at fault here, his co casters are taking a backseat and let the guy run them over because they know what he says is 90% of times better than what they would ever have said. They take over to give him a breather etc but most of the time its the co caster that has decided to let day9 take the spotlight and not the other way around.
And that's good.
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gotta remember that the people running the Tourney's he's casting could be coaching them this way. Day9 has a hge fanbase and it would be logical for organisers to want him at the forefront. But I could be completly wrong too. also...my spelling is awful i know
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On October 16 2010 20:24 Madkipz wrote:
Day9 is not at fault here, his co casters are taking a backseat and let the guy run them over because they know what he says is 90% of times better than what they would ever have said. They take over to give him a breather etc but most of the time its the co caster that has decided to let day9 take the spotlight and not the other way around.
I agree with that, really good co-casters know how to impose themselves, but it comes with good game knowledge often time.
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On October 16 2010 20:21 Full.tilt wrote:
If your co casters are DJ Wheat or JP, you should be talking as much as possible just to shut them up.
This.
Day[9] is great and his input is far superior to the other full-time casters on the scene in the US, if he enjoys doing the dailies for the community that's even better because they're such a great resource of both enthusiasm and content.
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On October 16 2010 20:21 Beyonder wrote:I think I agree. I love the guy and I love it when he casts, but in my opinion he needs to switch between roles based upon his caster/co-caster. And his 'ah ah' and then total topic switches between what he wants to say are a bit awkward  Still such a great caster though, but there's some room for improvement 
This is the one specific thing that really annoys me about his casts. Sometimes I notice I'm mainly very consciously listening to how Day[9] blends with his co-casters, instead of just enjoying the game, and for me the most noticeable moment is when DJWheat or so makes an observation and then Day[9] says "u-huh, and here we have the zerg just planting down his spawning pool, .. *10 more sentences*" and he doesn't even reply to his co-caster!
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I sort of agree, but you have to take into consideration his cocasters first. Lately we've seen him with people of varying casting/voice/mic skill but all with a pretty weak understanding of the game, like Dapollo, JP, Wheat, HD, Gunrun etc. While some of those are phenomenal guys who are great casters, they are all on the lower end of game knowledge, so it could just be that he's not at his best when he feels like he has to tow the line so to speak.
I will say that once the game starts he does tend to have the habit of completely ignoring/disregarding everything the other guy has to say and just sort of doing his day9 daily routine with intermittent breaks where the other guy talks a bit. I wish he'd acknowledge them a bit more, it would spice up the casts and make it feel like it is less pre determined thought processes or recycled Day9 daily advice of the hallmarks of great players
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What day9 really needs is a co-caster of comparable on the spot game knowledge that he can actually give the mic to. Tasteless and Artosis do this really well together because they both know what's going on, and what is expected to happen at high levels of play.
I really liked day9 casting with JP and wheat today, but Chill just has that extra something that he can actually ADD to a cast, rather than just supplementing what day9 had already said. I mean really I can't emphasize enough how much better day9 makes a cast, but he carries a lot of weight that I don't think many other foreign caster's are ready for.
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I really want to co-opt this thread to say that Chill needs to cast more, he's just pure awesomeness behind the mic. Plus he lives pretty close to my buddy in Alberta, next time I head out there I'm going to get drunk and toss stones at his apartment building at 4am while making cat calls =].
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...he throws this "ah ah" in, which sounds like the other guy can say what he wants, it doesn't matter ...
He does this when he brings people on his daily as well. He is used to being the host who has to think of the schedule. At first I didn't buy it, but beceause he is clearly paying attention to what's being said anyways, and beceause the way he does it doesn't demotivate the guest, I now just see it as his personality.
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He's the best caster i've ever heard, and i dont see what the problem is.
Day9/Tasteless or Day9/Artosis would be better suited for eachother, because they are all really great casters, who can sort of balance eachother. Instead he has to cast with people who dont really suit his style that well.
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On October 16 2010 20:29 Tachion wrote:
What day9 really needs is a co-caster of comparable on the spot game knowledge that he can actually give the mic to. Tasteless and Artosis do this really well together because they both know what's going on, and what is expected to happen at high levels of play.
Really? he did improve as the gsl went on but i still think he lacked alot of knowledge.
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The problem is simply that the quality of his cocasters is lacking, though lately they've been trying their best to keep up and it's showing. He sets the bar, and everyone knows it. Combine high level thinking with a competitive drive, a love of StarCraft since birth and you get Day's persona.
You also need to keep in mind that Day cannot play competitively because of his carpal tunnel, and this is the best way for him to contribute to the community he has been a part of since childhood. He really is the heart of eSports. Many casters are simply trying to ride the wave without putting in the effort to actually learn and be good at the game. Day also has the connections with a large percentage of the high level competitive community, and so he's able to stay on top of the ever-changing SC2 scene.
Long story short, is that Day is the fucking man. He has a 12 inch penis, punches babies vigorously in the face for his candy, can bench press a mountain, and Chuck Norris watches over him while he sleeps, forever vigilant to deliver our precious cargo into the new...day.
*insert 'fuck yeah' picture*
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I've noticed that myself too and often wondered if none of his cocasters said anything about it off air. Last weekend (don't know the name of the event atm) he cocasted with TheGunrun and Day9 was talking most of the time, hardly giving TheGunrun any moments to speak. But, I like TheGunrun a lot and what he has done castingwise, but compared to Day9 he had absolutely nothing to say. When he was able to speak it meant almost nothing compared to what Day9 had to say. I think this goes two ways, Day9 is dominant in his behaviour, but he's also way ahead of the rest compared in gameknowlegde and speaking ability.
Although TheGunrun looked kinda awkward sometimes when Day9 didn't let him talk. I think that's bad, since his cocasters won't like casting with him anymore as time goes by.
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I love Day. He needs to relax a little imo. Not from a nerve perspective but from words per minute perspective. He has a love to will everything he does to success, he'd carry a Starcraft broadcast across the sahara if he had to.
As a fan I'd like to see him take some of the load of himself and let someone else do the talking. Save some voice, save some energy. Even if a co-caster says something completely wrong ignore it. Sean himself used to call bisu jaedong and jaedong bisu.
If Day tossed a total softball to JP/Wheat today that lets them talk for 2-3 minutes I'd be a happy happy nerd. IIRC Sean has literally casted and commentated starcraft until a hospital trip for exhaustion, which he of course passed off as "no big thang" or something.
Sean even your fans think you need some more rest and less stress!
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In my opinion day9 is fine. From what i've seen when he's paired with JP or wheat, he talks a lot and hogs much attention, but i think both JP and Wheat are fine with this, and they are fine with being second to Day when it comes to commentairy, and rather just supplements Day with bits here and there or throw in a question for Day since he's such in depth of the game.
Also when casting with thegunrun this IEM I think he should just talk as much as possible, because his co caster didnt have much insight compared to him.
In conclusion I think the co'casters of Day9 should adapt to him rather, and maybe tell people at home the basics so the newbies can keep up, or just ask Day about certain things about the game to get even more insight from him. He might hog the spotlight, but for the love of god, let him!
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He's just used to talking soooooooooo much and filling every gap, so when he has a co-caster, it's hard for him to switch. I think he'll get better with time though.
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lol i think day9 is fine... people should just shut up and listen to him talk... he says all the important stuff anyways
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Go listen to husky for a week, then you can come back and tell me that day[9] loves himself
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On October 16 2010 20:33 BadWithNames wrote:
I love Day. He needs to relax a little imo. Not from a nerve perspective but from words per minute perspective. He has a love to will everything he does to success, he'd carry a Starcraft broadcast across the sahara if he had to.
As a fan I'd like to see him take some of the load of himself and let someone else do the talking. Save some voice, save some energy. Even if a co-caster says something completely wrong ignore it. Sean himself used to call bisu jaedong and jaedong bisu.
If Day tossed a total softball to JP/Wheat today that lets them talk for 2-3 minutes I'd be a happy happy nerd. IIRC Sean has literally casted and commentated starcraft until a hospital trip for exhaustion, which he of course passed off as "no big thang" or something.
Sean even your fans think you need some more rest and less stress!
Hm, at the end of last week's IEM:NY cast he could barely talk anymore and his voice sounded totally alien.
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He talksby himself about starcraft 2 almost everyday, i am not suprised that his co-casting is below casting himself  .
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