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ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:40:03
September 07 2010 04:29 GMT
#61
kind of embarrassing to get angry over someone announcing a 7pool

there needs to be a BM handbook or something because if drawing a pylon heart is bad mannered you girls need to grow some thicker skin
w2w
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
September 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#62
Update: Team Energy has been removed from the qualifiers due to bad manners. I've received multiple complaints from teams about how they run their clan wars and in the qualifiers it's not worth keeping around a team with this sort of attitude. They will be banned from SGL Season 1, 2 and 3 and they will not participate in SGL Season 1.

ballsssssssss
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 07 2010 04:34 GMT
#63
if 7 pool into proxy hatch is a strat that catz normally does, and is not just used to BM go.go style, then catz definitely was not at all BM until after Ahhboxxah told him not to BM. After that he was too bm imo even tho he could have just said i wasnt bming, thats just my strat, then there would be no problem!
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Kmickelow
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada106 Posts
September 07 2010 04:34 GMT
#64
Wow like jianfei said. In sports many fighters/players do a lot of prefight/pregame hype. And even after the fact there is cocky ness and edging on opposition. It creates a lot of entertainment... Its stupid. When you watch UFC for example, tito ortiz was super famous from his antics, he would call people on, talk trash, than do the same after. Dont know i just think its stupid.
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Neoattitude
Profile Joined April 2010
Guam172 Posts
September 07 2010 04:35 GMT
#65
Catz building hatch on bamboo's nat =no BM.
Ahhboxxah = bm
Catz's reply = really bad bm

Officials banning NRG and not Root = favoritisim and really really bad BM.
Fraud
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada108 Posts
September 07 2010 04:36 GMT
#66
If this is in the context of one clan having multiple warnings, then it makes sense. If rules are in place in a league, you need to enforce the rules, otherwise people will take advantage of them. It's the same concept that at TL, there's a general standard that we expect others to treat others with respect.

The 3 season ban seems a bit harsh, I think for a first non-warning offense, it should be a disqualification. Jumping to a ban is rather extreme...
sMi.EternaL
Profile Joined June 2010
United States162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:40:07
September 07 2010 04:39 GMT
#67
*Taken from the site as of reading this*

Team NrG's SGL Penalty Points: 0.0

NrG Team Info on SGL Site

Assuming there were any prior issues there ("should") would be points here. At the very least you'd think the admin team would deduct penalty point(s) and make a statement. An outright removal of a team over something so incredibly petty is absolutely horrible administrating and definitely does not bode well for the future of this league within the community.

Also, personally, none of these players were "bm." Trash talking is part of the game and has been for the past 10years of SC/War3 and countless years of gaming before that. If you don't like it (as a league/admin) then just prohibit speaking to your opponent beyond "gg/gl/hf." Pretty simple.
Former Leader of sMi - Sergeant of U.S. Marines
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 07 2010 04:41 GMT
#68
On September 07 2010 13:04 tyCe wrote:
I think any chat that isn't gg or pp shouldn't be allowed in tournament matches. Telling your opponent that you're going one build or another really screws with your opponent's mind and gives yourself an unfair advantage. On the other hand, to explicitly swear at your opponent is almost as bad - it is rude, but at least it does not give you an unfair advantage in the game.

I think CatZ should have been DQ'd immediately once he said he's going 7pool.


Why can't you say what build you are going, true or not? The opponent could have easily replied, "I'm doing a 2 gate rush." It's not like CatZ gains an unfair advantage here.
shynee
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:44:50
September 07 2010 04:42 GMT
#69
This isn't drama at all. Kind of immature posting something like this to create even more drama. Like in school when you tell your teacher that someone is teasing your friend. Just ignore and move on.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:48:21
September 07 2010 04:45 GMT
#70
Both players participated in some bm but it's nothing that a whole team should be banned for.... I mean if they want to discourage bm then DQ' both Catz and Boxxah for the first week of SGL or something.

Banning team NrG completely? Completely ridiculous. Teams with hackers in them get a lesser punishment... (using sc1 as a precedent)
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:47:26
September 07 2010 04:47 GMT
#71
Were gaming here folks, not curing cancer. These kind of incidents are super childish. enjoy the game, and move on
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
September 07 2010 04:51 GMT
#72
00:20:11 - AhhBoxxah to ALL: u dont know
00:20:13 - AhhBoxxah to ALL: who youre talking to

Who was he talking to!?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
September 07 2010 04:51 GMT
#73
somebody bout got body slammed
w2w
ploy
Profile Joined January 2006
United States416 Posts
September 07 2010 04:55 GMT
#74
Any league admin who supports a decision of his with "because it's my league" just sucks. A lot.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:59:41
September 07 2010 04:58 GMT
#75
I don't think you should be allowed to really talk in game at all, it seems sort of bm. However, what catZ did seems less BM than the verbal attack, because catZ didn't do anything bad (proxy hatch after a game is over doesn't really mean much).

*edit* the reply from catz is bm
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 05:00:48
September 07 2010 05:00 GMT
#76
On September 07 2010 13:55 ploy wrote:
Any league admin who supports a decision of his with "because it's my league" just sucks. A lot.

SGL]GnR says:
yes i give you one chacne
its qualifiers
there are no second chances
SGL]GnR says:
i dont need records
SGL]GnR says:
its my league and what i say goes

It's kinda like the whole "Because i'm your mom and i say so" bit. Quite hilarious how he backs himself up
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
September 07 2010 05:00 GMT
#77
catz is cool fuck the other guy
jackalope
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan120 Posts
September 07 2010 05:01 GMT
#78
this is what happens when 20 year olds run tournaments.
water in the lasers
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 05:03:11
September 07 2010 05:02 GMT
#79
On September 07 2010 13:26 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:24 OneOther wrote:
On September 07 2010 13:07 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On September 07 2010 13:04 tyCe wrote:
I think any chat that isn't gg or pp shouldn't be allowed in tournament matches. Telling your opponent that you're going one build or another really screws with your opponent's mind and gives yourself an unfair advantage. On the other hand, to explicitly swear at your opponent is almost as bad - it is rude, but at least it does not give you an unfair advantage in the game.

I think CatZ should have been DQ'd immediately once he said he's going 7pool.


How is it unfair? It's not like your not allowed to go 7 pool unless you first announce it? Mind games are a big part of SCII and this is just another one. If you have watched a CatZ game in the last 2 weeks you would KNOW he's 7 pooling on Steppes even if he didn't say it. Bad scouting of opponents, which imo is one of the biggest problems plaguing players right now.

What? Is this a joke? Saying shit during the game to your opponent isn't mindgame. It's a bad taste. It should just not be allowed - especially in a clan war or tournament setting.

Whatever, it's not the issue. If you're going to disallow it fine, but make sure it's well known in advance etc. The rules don't stipulate that you need to be quiet all game so what Catz did is fine.

Yeah I know it's not the issue but I was just refuting talking during game like that is a legitimate part of "SC2 mindgame." He shouldn't receive some harsh punishment or something for it, but it's not exactly "fine." It's not fine. Forget the rules, it's common sense and common courtesy.
jackalope
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan120 Posts
September 07 2010 05:17 GMT
#80
the real question is what does KFC of root gaming think of all this.
water in the lasers
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