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thesauceishot
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada333 Posts
September 07 2010 06:22 GMT
#101
The decision was too harsh, but you should've been well aware of the rules in place of the league. I would NOT call CatZ saying that he's 7 pooling BM at all, but I would consider what Boxxah said to be BM. He already won the game, so it's just a condescending, jerk thing to say at the end of the game. CatZ probably did not get punished because it seems that Boxxah committed the offense first. In my opinion, the clan war should've been allowed to be finished, but you have to respect and abide by the rules of the league.
Rouel
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden138 Posts
September 07 2010 06:23 GMT
#102
On September 07 2010 14:47 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
"started it?" You sound like the admin now. How old are we? Doesn't matter if you are provoked or not you should conduct yourself properly or have the same consequences of some one who instigates. Not saying I think boxxah instigated much here, but if that IS the case then it doesn't give CatZ an excuse to go apeshit



What matters is your self-victimization, blame-gaming and refusal to take responsibility. Based on your disruptive behaviour the league is better off without you.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States658 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 06:27:14
September 07 2010 06:25 GMT
#103
Some of these replies are ridiculous.
Kids need to learn to read tbh..
That said the decision's obviously stupid. Like most people have said, every team should be presented equal treatment, the bm itself really doesn't matter; if both parties break a rule, both parties should be punished.
Favouritism is ridiculous, especially when shown in tournaments. Banning an entire team from a tournament for something like BMing without warning is retarded too. Terrible decision.
ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 06:29:24
September 07 2010 06:29 GMT
#104
favoritism?

Dudes started a "fight", someone fought back, the instigator got banned and defender didn't.
Now they're just trying to get revenge by ousting the league and getting root banned too, that's called being a baby.
w2w
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 07 2010 06:29 GMT
#105
I think everyone is being a little too sensitive. Either it was all BM, or it wasn't BM at all. In my eyes it wasn't, in some of your eyes it all was. My point is this: Boxxah did NOT cross a line that wasn't cross by CatZ, and vice versa. The admin picked and chose what was bm, when in fact it was all the same shit. Saying "Dont fuckin bm my teammates plz" is about as bm as saying "Dont fuckin bm me plz". It's telling some1, with a little bad word in there, to not bm. If CatZ was bming or not, it doesnt matter, its just saying not to. Nothing was even wrong here, no one cried after losing, no one cried after hurt feelings.

Its the fact that the admins cut out pieces of the situation, and addressed them, and not the situation as a whole. We weren't mad at root and they weren't mad at us, it was when the admins declared our dismissal that i kinda got irate
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 07 2010 06:31 GMT
#106
On September 07 2010 15:29 ekaj wrote:
favoritism?

Dudes started a "fight", someone fought back, the instigator got banned and defender didn't.
Now they're just trying to get revenge by ousting the league and getting root banned too, that's called being a baby.

Are you stupid? I would hate to see root get banned. Read like every post I have done in this trhead, and I'll tell you thats not my goal. Yes it's my goal to ridicule this league and its admin, not root, root did nothing wrong in my eyes, and neither did we.

Don't put words in my mouth, and don't act like you know my motives. They were clearly laid out in front of you, and you did a horrible job interpreting them
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Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States658 Posts
September 07 2010 06:33 GMT
#107
On September 07 2010 15:29 ekaj wrote:
favoritism?

Dudes started a "fight", someone fought back, the instigator got banned and defender didn't.
Now they're just trying to get revenge by ousting the league and getting root banned too, that's called being a baby.

By that logic, Catz saying he's going to 7 pool and making a hatch in the opponent's natural could be considered "starting a fight". But shit doesn't go down like that. For example, if someone shoots you IRL (totally) and you shoot him back, you're both going to be facing problems with the law.
SoFFacet
Profile Joined March 2010
United States101 Posts
September 07 2010 06:43 GMT
#108
The way I see it Catz shouldn't have opened his mouth in the first place. Telling the other person your build = taunting = bm. NrG player's only mistake was to swear.

Either way a ban was way too harsh. What a joke of a league.
ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 07:07:35
September 07 2010 06:56 GMT
#109
On September 07 2010 15:33 Katkishka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 15:29 ekaj wrote:
favoritism?

Dudes started a "fight", someone fought back, the instigator got banned and defender didn't.
Now they're just trying to get revenge by ousting the league and getting root banned too, that's called being a baby.

By that logic, Catz saying he's going to 7 pool and making a hatch in the opponent's natural could be considered "starting a fight". But shit doesn't go down like that. For example, if someone shoots you IRL (totally) and you shoot him back, you're both going to be facing problems with the law.

I guess if building pylon hearts is BM then you can interpret it that way, no one else would. In fact according to neverexpo, no one did, except boxxah which is why he told someone to not fuck with his teammates. After he won which makes it a little funnier. Then catz took a dump on his chest.

Your comment about the rl analogy, that doesn't really deter my comment at all. Are you saying the defender in this crazy awesome gun fight DESERVES the punishment he would probably be getting?
I guess you could just say rules are rules but fortunately this is the internet and people can do the right thing once in a blue moon. While I believe banning someone for being bad mannered is retarded in the first place just like most other people, banning the player simply responding to a little bm seems rather dumb. Just like punishing someone that defended them self after being shot (this analogy seems way too severe for what we're talking about ).
w2w
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 07 2010 07:20 GMT
#110
In SC1 I really do believe if someone were to take CatZ actions, they'd be perceived as BM 100% - but not given a penalty. ICCupCL, WGTCL, or BWCL would not even touch an issue with that. They also wouldn't touch an issue with what AhhBoxxah did.

I really think CatZ should have dealed with what he provoked. What does he honestly expect?

What would he have done if someone did that to him? I can sure as hell make a really good guess.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 07 2010 07:54 GMT
#111
Who cares, retarded to ban players for a little trash talking. More drama to the people!
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
September 07 2010 07:55 GMT
#112
Regardless of any of these actions and who should get what, the conversation with the admins of the league on MSN shows how sketchy its management administration is.

On September 07 2010 15:22 thesauceishot wrote:
The decision was too harsh, but you should've been well aware of the rules in place of the league. I would NOT call CatZ saying that he's 7 pooling BM at all, but I would consider what Boxxah said to be BM. He already won the game, so it's just a condescending, jerk thing to say at the end of the game. CatZ probably did not get punished because it seems that Boxxah committed the offense first. In my opinion, the clan war should've been allowed to be finished, but you have to respect and abide by the rules of the league.


"Aware of the rules" : read the MSN convo. What "rules"? If these rules affected NrG than they should have affected root, and as that exchange proved, there's hardly substance rule-keeping or objectivity in managing those violations.

"He already won the game, so it's just a condescending jerk thing to say" --- same applies to Catz making a hatch in his opponent's natural.
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SunDevil
Profile Joined March 2010
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 08:07:04
September 07 2010 08:06 GMT
#113
I am the main point of contact between Inflow Gaming and the SGL and I just want to make clear that never did I go to GnR and say "Hey, check out what these guys did in the past, you should ban them from your league." The incident between Inflow and NrG should not, and I believe did not, have anything to do with the actions taken by the SGL admin(s). I would ask to refrain from any further discussion about that incident, as I cannot see any good that could come from talking about an unrelated matter.

Thank you.
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Hatorade
Profile Joined July 2010
299 Posts
September 07 2010 08:29 GMT
#114
How is saying "dont fucking bm my team mates" bm? Because of the curse word? Would saying "Dont bm my team mates" be bm? Im pretty sure most of us arent 5 year olds they have a profanity filter on the game for a reason so I dont see the problem or why anyone was even banned.

The way I see it the guy was expressing an issue he had with how the game was handled earlier. I dont see how light smack talk if you can even call it that should result in stopping the whole clan match and banning one team,pretty weak.
Chibbychan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
September 07 2010 08:40 GMT
#115
these nrg pu55ys need to stop crying.. u got owned by 7 pool and got mad.. why u mad? u mad? u need to stop crying for real.. he didnt do nothing but say imma 7 pool... if u think that is bm then u are a very sensitive little girl

User was temp banned for this post.
CHIDOR THE BADEST WOMAN ON THE PLANET
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 07 2010 08:43 GMT
#116
both sides were wrong. it's unfortunate that nRG had to be DQ'd but I wouldn't say that the admins were biased.
Chibbychan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
September 07 2010 08:46 GMT
#117
link the 7 pool game lol!!!! i wanna see that!! so i can ROFL!!!! why only show one replay show the replay where catz "supposidly BM by 7 pooling lol"
CHIDOR THE BADEST WOMAN ON THE PLANET
sMi.EternaL
Profile Joined June 2010
United States162 Posts
September 07 2010 08:49 GMT
#118
On September 07 2010 17:40 Chibbychan wrote:
these nrg pu55ys need to stop crying.. u got owned by 7 pool and got mad.. why u mad? u mad? u need to stop crying for real.. he didnt do nothing but say imma 7 pool... if u think that is bm then u are a very sensitive little girl


You missed the entire point of this thread troll.

No one is really debating on the players being bm or not bm, no one gives a shit about that. The issue is with the SGL admin banning a well established, old bw/sc2 team for (virtually) no reason.

At the very most both players should have been DQ'd from the next CW (even that's extreme) and "maybe" a penalty point given.

Granted this is based upon our belief that NrG has no previous violations which we can take for granted since, on the SGL website itself as of this posting, NrG had no admin notes and no penalty points against them.

All in all it's definite bullshit and I'm really hoping to see an official declaration from SGL in regards to this terrible decision with something more solid than "We've had numerous complaints in the past."

Uh... Ok.

When you consider the "past" of SGL is barely two weeks ago and one clan war prior to the one in question. Riiiight.
Former Leader of sMi - Sergeant of U.S. Marines
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 07 2010 08:52 GMT
#119
On September 07 2010 12:29 nath wrote:
am i the only one who thinks that catz action was just as bad as the nrg guy's? o.O

not saying that either one is a big deal, to me ... neither should be a basis of a clan's termination in a league lol...

edit: IdrA should have lost his KesPA liscence by now

So he makes a manner hatchery, after doing an allin fag build, then when he's losing the guy tells him not to BM his team mates and he goes off calling him a fucking newb and shit. Boxxxah or whatever didnt even say anything like that until CatZ started

Anyone who thinks CatZ wasnt being a bm dickcheese should think again
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 07 2010 09:04 GMT
#120
Catz was infinitely worse imo. "bm idiot" terran OP references "dare BM me" "stupid newb."

Only reason AhhBoxxah was even banned was for the word "fucking." Besides a cuss word, he didn't really say anything in particular that's BM (in terms of insults). Also saying "I'm going to 7pool" in a cw setting and especially the forward hatch were especially BM incidents.
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