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The whole story in OP is very childish, one guy said something stupid, the other one took it seriously then insults came. And now OP makes a thread to complain. I feel like in nursery school when the toddlers go to the teacher "miss miss, he is the one who started ! "
If only this could be hilarious BM'ing like Idra's to Drewbie "I want you to take a moment, to reflect how much of a failure you are"....
If you are convinced you are right and that CatZ was the BM asshole, you don't need to give us the whole story about CatZ. Just make a thread about how bad are SGL admins, because this is the actual issue if I understand correctly.
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If Catz was a person who had play BroodWar and follow Broodwar .. The speaking out of his/her own build order and building Hatchery in opponent natura was pretty bad manner. For all those that say those action aren't bad manner, you probably don't follow Broodwar. If Catz had not play BroodWar before, it's understandable and not really b.m. Edit: After reading the post below me.. It seems I read the thread wrong.. Anyway it's not unjust that your team was disqualified and they only get a warning. Hope they reconsider and release a statement on their decision. GOOD LUCK!
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this post isnt about catz, its about the fact that we (NrG) were kicked out of the SGL because of this incident when its apparent that neither player crossed a line or both players crossed it.
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On September 07 2010 18:11 Kvz wrote: this post isnt about catz, its about the fact that we (NrG) were kicked out of the SGL because of this incident when its apparent that neither player crossed a line or both players crossed it.
Exactly. Some people here seems to forget that this isn't about bm or pointing fingers. It's about SGL, how terribly they handled this incident.
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What kind of coward waits to BM for his "teammates" AFTER he wins. Why not shit talk CatZ before you win before you can take your free 30 min TvZ win.
Hi, Bamboo here.
There is slightly more to the story (after talking to the admin along with NeverExpo on MSN after the news was broken to me). GnR (admin) claims that NrG has a BM reputation already due to 2 events that happened in the past.
One event was against team nG, I believe a week ago, when one of our members called an opposing team member "cheesy". This was said in spectator chat only, none of the players were disturbed and there was no BM from either side in a public setting. At all. But that seems to be one of the two situations that cast NrG as a BM team.
The other event was against team inflow several weeks ago in which one of our players did say "gg scrub" after being cheesed and lost. The kicker here is that it had nothing to do with SGL, and was just a friendly CW.
And I'll just leave that with a small excerpt from our MSN conversation: + Show Spoiler +
I played you guys in a clan war a week (probably this SGL thing also or maybe not) or so ago and after your player AhhhBoxaaahh disconnected even though he was winning with a huge 60+ food advantage, according to the rules and my manager we were supposed to regame. He spent the entire game and in the lobby berating me because of this and when he won the next game he finished by saying "Are you going to fucking leave now?" or something along those lines. I have a feeling this "bm" is a regular occurrence for your clan.
I'm a pretty bm guy myself but when I'm representing a clan I shut up.
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i think the actual quote for that instance you're talking about is more along the lines of 'if i disc now would we have to regame again ^^?'
it was in jest. assuming you're oakhill and in that case, hi
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On September 07 2010 18:32 PokePill wrote:What kind of coward waits to BM for his "teammates" AFTER he wins. Why not shit talk CatZ before you win before you can take your free 30 min TvZ win. Show nested quote +Hi, Bamboo here.
There is slightly more to the story (after talking to the admin along with NeverExpo on MSN after the news was broken to me). GnR (admin) claims that NrG has a BM reputation already due to 2 events that happened in the past.
One event was against team nG, I believe a week ago, when one of our members called an opposing team member "cheesy". This was said in spectator chat only, none of the players were disturbed and there was no BM from either side in a public setting. At all. But that seems to be one of the two situations that cast NrG as a BM team.
The other event was against team inflow several weeks ago in which one of our players did say "gg scrub" after being cheesed and lost. The kicker here is that it had nothing to do with SGL, and was just a friendly CW.
And I'll just leave that with a small excerpt from our MSN conversation: + Show Spoiler + I played you guys in a clan war a week (probably this SGL thing also or maybe not) or so ago and after your player AhhhBoxaaahh disconnected even though he was winning with a huge 60+ food advantage, according to the rules and my manager we were supposed to regame. He spent the entire game and in the lobby berating me because of this and when he won the next game he finished by saying "Are you going to fucking leave now?" or something along those lines. I have a feeling this "bm" is a regular occurrence for your clan.
While BM doesn't make BM justifiable. You're an ass for not forfeiting. Don't care what your manager said. Join the game and gg out if you must.
On-topic: I think the punishment was a bit harsh, but due to past complaints the ban may have been justified (although if it was just one person being BM why not ban just the one person)
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On September 07 2010 18:41 itzbrandnew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 18:32 PokePill wrote:What kind of coward waits to BM for his "teammates" AFTER he wins. Why not shit talk CatZ before you win before you can take your free 30 min TvZ win. Hi, Bamboo here.
There is slightly more to the story (after talking to the admin along with NeverExpo on MSN after the news was broken to me). GnR (admin) claims that NrG has a BM reputation already due to 2 events that happened in the past.
One event was against team nG, I believe a week ago, when one of our members called an opposing team member "cheesy". This was said in spectator chat only, none of the players were disturbed and there was no BM from either side in a public setting. At all. But that seems to be one of the two situations that cast NrG as a BM team.
The other event was against team inflow several weeks ago in which one of our players did say "gg scrub" after being cheesed and lost. The kicker here is that it had nothing to do with SGL, and was just a friendly CW.
And I'll just leave that with a small excerpt from our MSN conversation: + Show Spoiler + I played you guys in a clan war a week (probably this SGL thing also or maybe not) or so ago and after your player AhhhBoxaaahh disconnected even though he was winning with a huge 60+ food advantage, according to the rules and my manager we were supposed to regame. He spent the entire game and in the lobby berating me because of this and when he won the next game he finished by saying "Are you going to fucking leave now?" or something along those lines. I have a feeling this "bm" is a regular occurrence for your clan. While BM doesn't make BM justifiable. You're an ass for not forfeiting. Don't care what your manager said. Join the game and gg out if you must. On-topic: I think the punishment was a bit harsh, but due to past complaints the ban may have been justified (although if it was just one person being BM why not ban just the one person)
Yea dude I'm an ass for doing what my manager told me to do. Thank you for interjecting your opinion in something that has nothing to do with this thread. Do you have any opinions on global warming?
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form what I've read it basicly comes down to this...
SGL]GnR says: its my league and what i say goes
obviously both clans don't have "that" many problems with one another, but some immature league-admins think they have to prove that they can do whatever the hell they please.....old news, actually
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On September 07 2010 18:45 PokePill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 18:41 itzbrandnew wrote:On September 07 2010 18:32 PokePill wrote:What kind of coward waits to BM for his "teammates" AFTER he wins. Why not shit talk CatZ before you win before you can take your free 30 min TvZ win. Hi, Bamboo here.
There is slightly more to the story (after talking to the admin along with NeverExpo on MSN after the news was broken to me). GnR (admin) claims that NrG has a BM reputation already due to 2 events that happened in the past.
One event was against team nG, I believe a week ago, when one of our members called an opposing team member "cheesy". This was said in spectator chat only, none of the players were disturbed and there was no BM from either side in a public setting. At all. But that seems to be one of the two situations that cast NrG as a BM team.
The other event was against team inflow several weeks ago in which one of our players did say "gg scrub" after being cheesed and lost. The kicker here is that it had nothing to do with SGL, and was just a friendly CW.
And I'll just leave that with a small excerpt from our MSN conversation: + Show Spoiler + I played you guys in a clan war a week (probably this SGL thing also or maybe not) or so ago and after your player AhhhBoxaaahh disconnected even though he was winning with a huge 60+ food advantage, according to the rules and my manager we were supposed to regame. He spent the entire game and in the lobby berating me because of this and when he won the next game he finished by saying "Are you going to fucking leave now?" or something along those lines. I have a feeling this "bm" is a regular occurrence for your clan. While BM doesn't make BM justifiable. You're an ass for not forfeiting. Don't care what your manager said. Join the game and gg out if you must. On-topic: I think the punishment was a bit harsh, but due to past complaints the ban may have been justified (although if it was just one person being BM why not ban just the one person) Yea dude I'm an ass for doing what my manager told me to do. Thank you for interjecting your opinion in something that has nothing to do with this thread. Do you have any opinions on global warming?
If you don't like people commenting on your and your manager's BM don't post it. Also, did you not see my on-topic part? Or did you tunnel vision my criticism.
Agreed with the poster above me, in the end it's his league and his credibility at stake. If he feels this ban won't affect his credibility then he's fine to do whatever he wants (I support his decision)
Edit: Taking argument to PM
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the thread title is a little melodramatic is it not? the bottom line is you have a bone to pick with the admins not RooT. so contact them privately and ask them to justify/reconsider the ban. if you run into to a brick wall there, then maybe make a thread about the incident asking for advice on how to deal with the situation. this 'drama' thread serves no real purpose.
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Honestly, Boxxah shouldn't of said anything. and bring the reply to the league admin and let them deal with it, instead boxxah took it into his own hands and treated cat like he did something wrong.
I dont think you should of been removed from the league though
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neverexpo, why get worked up over this? obviously the league and the "league leader" is a joke. take your time, effort, and skill to someplace where people understand the concept of respect.
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both jerks? If someone runs their mouth try to beat them and if you lose get over it. Cursing on the internet gets you nowhere. For being such a baby I don't know how boxxah got on such a high horse but still I don't see any reason for a ban. Text besides gg and pause should be banned from all tournaments then there would be no issue.
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Poorly handled situation by league admins. Hope they improve before they kill their own league.
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ESPORTS and drama, what a combination. =) DQ is a tad harsh imo.
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Change thread title to: Boycott SGL It seems that most people in thread are in agreement that the decision to ban either party was capricious and uncalled for....
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On September 07 2010 19:37 Santiago4ever wrote: Poorly handled situation by league admins. Hope they improve before they kill their own league.
indeed - I mean, even in professional sports things get out of hand once in a while...but just think about how ridiculous it would be to outright ban a NHL-team for the whole season just because one player loses it and starts punching another guy in the face during a match...
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Banning the whole for the action of an individual is stupid. You can ban Boxxah for a week or something like that but not the whole team. This is just an admin drunk on some semblance of power.
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I was in NrG in BW ... but I'm not going to take sides here. Both players were kind of BM. But thats also part of the game ... deal with it. With no record of previous BM from NrG and the whole "its my league its my decision" from the Admin is really stupid and pathetic. The decision to ban NrG was really stupid and unjustified.
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