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Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
September 07 2010 15:51 GMT
#161
On September 07 2010 12:43 Plexa wrote:
Honestly, this is all a little bit silly... you call this drama? This is nothing....


Yeah, I feel the same way,,
FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
September 07 2010 15:53 GMT
#162
I don't think that ANY build / strategy is BM. You play to win, that's it. So what if CatZ put down a hatchery at his expansion? So what if he 7pooled?

That's not BM.

What IS BM, is the bullshit that both players toss back and forth at the end of the game. I'm honestly tired of elitist bullshit - everyone thinking they are the best SC2 player of all time. I had a lot of respect for both of these players - Having a couple discussions with CatZ over PM and getting to watch AhhBoxxah play at WCG this week.

After watching CatZ's interview at MLG, and seeing this whole event unfold ... I've lost a lot of respect for everyone involved.
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
September 07 2010 16:02 GMT
#163
Boxxah should learn to keep the mouth shut special if this is not the first time. But i dont think vs Root he was bm...So Nrg shouldn't be banned.
Catz behavior like a idiot and bm. Tell that go "7 pool" in a cw game is disrespect to the other opponent and he insult other player...But he already receive a warming if admin have the same standard one more of Catz Root gonna be banned to?

Well admin already talks but i hope he change his mind.
This is not drama just bad decisions...
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Nivoh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway259 Posts
September 07 2010 16:28 GMT
#164
Perfectly reasonable imo. And since when did telling your opponent your strategy become BM?
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 07 2010 16:35 GMT
#165
Imo, a little BM is always good. I know SC2 community is WM but i think it's just good for the rivalry. SGL admins are pretty harsh imo to ban NrG for this.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
September 07 2010 17:11 GMT
#166
All of a sudden stoic not participating makes so much more sense ! To think, we did it because of inside information on their sponsor, however the prospect of unjust admin decisions is what led us to pull our name from qualifiers.
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iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
September 07 2010 17:15 GMT
#167
On September 07 2010 22:23 OptimoPeach wrote:
I really get tired of people crying about BM like little girls. I understand the desire for respect and all that, but this unflinchingly rigid adherence to 100% PROPRIETY ALL THE TIME OR ELSE is beyond aggravating. I think some people need to take the sticks out of their asses and relax a bit. No one should have been DQed, but no one should have been making a big fuss about some harmless teasing either. We're playing a video game here, not practicing the art of the samurai

also:

[image loading]

omg Babe Ruth u r so BM srsly wtf



that sums it up. case closed
santoki
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States107 Posts
September 07 2010 17:26 GMT
#168
On September 08 2010 02:15 Dukke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 22:23 OptimoPeach wrote:
I really get tired of people crying about BM like little girls. I understand the desire for respect and all that, but this unflinchingly rigid adherence to 100% PROPRIETY ALL THE TIME OR ELSE is beyond aggravating. I think some people need to take the sticks out of their asses and relax a bit. No one should have been DQed, but no one should have been making a big fuss about some harmless teasing either. We're playing a video game here, not practicing the art of the samurai

also:

[image loading]

omg Babe Ruth u r so BM srsly wtf



that sums it up. case closed


lol dude read the thread this is NrG vs. SGL not NrG vs. ROOT =p
I think the thread title and the typical human focus on the spotlight of the issue (the BM) is turning all the attention to irrelevant things. I agree with drewbie.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
September 07 2010 17:38 GMT
#169
I don't really see much reason for posting a thread about this.. It's just perpetuating drama.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 07 2010 18:12 GMT
#170
On September 08 2010 01:28 Nivoh wrote:
Perfectly reasonable imo. And since when did telling your opponent your strategy become BM?


Ok, let me tell you I'm doing something and then watch you wonder and get worried over what I just said. If he was going 7pool there's no need to say anything, it just messes with the other persons strategy. Both teams/ players should just get warnings and let it be at that.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 07 2010 18:26 GMT
#171
On September 08 2010 03:12 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 01:28 Nivoh wrote:
Perfectly reasonable imo. And since when did telling your opponent your strategy become BM?


Ok, let me tell you I'm doing something and then watch you wonder and get worried over what I just said. If he was going 7pool there's no need to say anything, it just messes with the other persons strategy. Both teams/ players should just get warnings and let it be at that.


Or you could just watch pretty much any replay of CatZ from the last several weeks and know he's not lying.

The lack of proper opponent scouting in this game is unreal. I know if I was doing something like this I would be studying opponent replays and VOD's like CRAZY.
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 18:41:34
September 07 2010 18:39 GMT
#172
On September 07 2010 12:45 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
Yea what CatZ said is true, i did get very upset and took it out on him which i shudnt have, and i immediately appologized afterwards. The "BM" incident people from inflow are referring to is something that happened close to 2 months ago in a friendly CW between NrG and inflow. Boxxah did say something stupid during that clan war, and he lost, and i told him it was wrong and ofc he knew it was wrong. But considering an incident like that towards a league is absolutely ridiculous. Inflow complained about our BM before even encountering us in the SGL. They merely did it to punish us, I guess from prior events. SGL admins once again made a horrible decision in taking something from a CW that didn't even matter and holding it against us in their league..


While i mostly agree with you, i have to say that imho it is right to consider previous actions from a player towards a league.
If you know a player is not behaving well in general and BMing sometimes, then admins should teach him a lession by banning him if he does not behave well again. Imagine a player hacks in a big tournament and gets banned, but then is regarded as a normal player in another big tournament. Thats just not right. If someone behaves bad then its a bad character trait and you cant narrow that down to a certain CW or tournament. Its always with him.

MY opinion is that they should ban boxxah and warn catz, but surely not DQ NrG.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 07 2010 18:43 GMT
#173
Hmm, terrible decision by the admin. It should have either been both banned, or neither banned. Honestly, not a huge transgression- hopefully the admin will allow you back in, and give both teams a warning or something.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 18:48:53
September 07 2010 18:44 GMT
#174
Well, from what I read in the OP, 100% of the fault lies with nrg. Unless of course you can prove you aren't allowed to talk about what build you're going to use. I have never heard of this, where is this rule?

Sounds like you guys took shit waaaay too seriously and got upset about it.


The DQ is ridiculous, though.


edit:

ahh i read the chat log
how could nrg possibly be DQ'd and root not be? what the hell? ridiculous decisions by the admins.


On September 08 2010 02:38 Wolf wrote:
I don't really see much reason for posting a thread about this.. It's just perpetuating drama.


probably because it's unfair by the admins and they want to out it.
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
September 07 2010 18:52 GMT
#175
can't watch the replay but by the sounds of it nobody should be banned ^^
iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
September 07 2010 18:52 GMT
#176
well after looking at the group NrG was in. after that 4-0 loss to fnatic they had no chance of qualifying . so this ban wasn't even needed. and banning them for 2 more seasons is kinda out of line for a little confrontation between 2 players....
spinel
Profile Joined September 2010
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 18:59:45
September 07 2010 18:53 GMT
#177
boxxah was defending his teammates in an angry manner, not bming catz or w/e. Catz went on like a child and started calling stupid noob/idiot and w/e. Idk how can you say that catz is a mannered person or even remotely mature. Even using the word noob is a sign of an immature person or player. We all know people use the word noob, in a attempt to make themselves feel better by acknowledging that they have made the other person feel bad. It's just very immature in nature. That's not to say boxxah went on to over react the situation instead of solving it peacefully/maturely. The admin's decision is pretty extreme and its obvious favoritism. Man I hate people picking favorites -.-

P.S Yes this is my first time posting. Im in no way related to root or Nrg. I'm not smurfing, I belong to qgaming.net
just saying
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
September 07 2010 19:15 GMT
#178
Sounds like Catz was cheesing/screwing around, but it was Ahhboxxah who BMs (swears) first. Of course, the comeback from Catz after was bad too. I think both players should be disciplined.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 07 2010 19:18 GMT
#179
On September 08 2010 03:52 Dukke wrote:
well after looking at the group NrG was in. after that 4-0 loss to fnatic they had no chance of qualifying . so this ban wasn't even needed. and banning them for 2 more seasons is kinda out of line for a little confrontation between 2 players....

Dukke do you even know what you're talking about? We hadn't played against fnatic We had played one CW against nG in which we won 4-2, and this CW vs root was tied at 2-2 before we stopped playing, We had only inflow left after and it looked very possible for us to advance. Dont know where ur getting ur information from, but its dead wrong lol.
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iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 19:31:28
September 07 2010 19:31 GMT
#180
On September 08 2010 04:18 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 03:52 Dukke wrote:
well after looking at the group NrG was in. after that 4-0 loss to fnatic they had no chance of qualifying . so this ban wasn't even needed. and banning them for 2 more seasons is kinda out of line for a little confrontation between 2 players....

Dukke do you even know what you're talking about? We hadn't played against fnatic We had played one CW against nG in which we won 4-2, and this CW vs root was tied at 2-2 before we stopped playing, We had only inflow left after and it looked very possible for us to advance. Dont know where ur getting ur information from, but its dead wrong lol.



im getting it off the battle report on the SGL site. sorry if it was the wrong info.
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