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FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 21 2010 23:02 GMT

#81

Why would you knowingly castrate your own computer in the future?

semantics

10040 Posts

May 21 2010 23:12 GMT

#82

On May 22 2010 08:02 FragKrag wrote:
Why would you knowingly castrate your own computer in the future?

Why would you knowingly castrate your own computer right now when it may not be necessary.

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 00:24 GMT

#83

What do you mean 'may not be necessary'? Nothing is truly necessary, but it's quite obvious that people use USB a lot (external hard drives, flash drives, etc) which all benefit immensely with USB 3.0.

If there is a bit of money to spend, an extra $20 for USB 3.0 and SATA 3 is great. (Along with a newer chipset)

Hereticus

12 Posts

May 22 2010 00:34 GMT

#84

Could i ask someones opinnion?

what about:

AMD Phenom™ II X6 Black 1090T

What are Your thoughts about that piece of evil?

imo with enough time and a good motherboard it has quite a potential (i found only 2 motherboards with default usage of all cores but i'm from total technological backwater so you can ave more info on that).

ghermination

United States2851 Posts

May 22 2010 00:57 GMT

#85

On May 22 2010 09:34 Hereticus wrote:
Could i ask someones opinnion?

what about:

AMD Phenom™ II X6 Black 1090T

What are Your thoughts about that piece of evil?

imo with enough time and a good motherboard it has quite a potential (i found only 2 motherboards with default usage of all cores but i'm from total technological backwater so you can ave more info on that).

A six core processor has all the obvious advantages of having 6 physical cores.
It doesn't really produce a lot of heat though.
It's also the most expensive of AMD's processors, which is kind of a turn off for some people.
I wish AMD would switch to 32nm though. Until they do i don't think we'll get the full potential (clockspeeds, cache, etc) out of 6 core processors.
Unless you need massive rendering performance, lots of memory bandwidth etc there isn't much use for a 6 core processor atm. You can get a good deal on a 955 or 965 be and it'll be a good amount cheaper.

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:00 GMT

#86

It's an awesome core for people who can use all of them (encoding), and it can overclock fairly well (like all the C3 AMD Phenom IIs), but as far as gaming usage goes, I don't think you will see much of an improvement with the 6 core processor over the cheaper AMD Phenom II X4 955.

There are many more motherboards that support the 6 cores, some of them just need BIOS updates, but all of the new 8xx series chipset motherboards should be able to support the new 6 cores right out of the box.

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

May 22 2010 01:01 GMT

#87

The low end builds in this thread seem a bit excessive. A low end build shouldn't cost more than $500.

I would also recommend anybody interested in running SC2 at max and SC2 only
spend NO more than $500 on their computer. Anything above that will be overkill.

Low end:

CPU + Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.369415
Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150448&cm_re=5750-_-14-150-448-_-Product
Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136358
Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042&cm_re=antec_300-_-11-129-042-_-Product
Optical Drive:
Just reuse your old one. Or by whatever you want ~ $30.

GRAND TOTAL: $474.90
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Note* You can actually save more if you decide to go with an AMD cpu/mobo platform. I'm not experienced with AMD, so I can't make a recommendation there. Also, you can save money with a cheaper case, reusing your old hard drive, etc. Be creative and yes you can max sc2 and save even MORE money.

If you guys doubt the 5750 being able to max SC2, just look here:

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_beta_performance,4.html

The 5750 averages 59 FPS with settings maxed, at 1920x1200.

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:01 GMT

#88

Agreed, a build above $800 or so is already solidly mid end.

Hereticus

12 Posts

May 22 2010 01:05 GMT

#89

ghermination and FragKrag <-- than you so much,

So i can assume that for building a gaming platform (a high end one), i7 is much better (aka quality>quantity)

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:09 GMT

#90

Even with the i7s there is a choice between LGA 1366 and LGA 1156. I wrote a guide on my SC2 Computers thread but nobody probably reads it ><

HDStarcraft that is a bit extreme. $500 will not run SC2 at max.

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

May 22 2010 01:20 GMT

#91

On May 22 2010 10:09 FragKrag wrote:
Even with the i7s there is a choice between LGA 1366 and LGA 1156. I wrote a guide on my SC2 Computers thread but nobody probably reads it ><

HDStarcraft that is a bit extreme. $500 will not run SC2 at max.

FragKrag,

I edited my post with a build. I strongly believe this will max SC2 for <$500. Let me know what you think.

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:22 GMT

#92

hard to play games without RAM right?

:3

In all honesty, I am sure that a $600 ultra computer is easy, but at $500 you are really pushing it (especially considering RAM prices these days).

Athlon II X2 + GTS 250 + 4GB (or 2GB) should be fine under $600

writer22816

United States5775 Posts

May 22 2010 01:23 GMT

#93

On May 12 2010 00:26 Luddite wrote:
Do you think there's really much benefit to building a computer yourself from parts these days? Maybe for super high end systems there is, but it seems like for an average computer you can get the same performance cheaper by buying a stock computer.

Are you kidding me? This is the piece of shit that HP offers for $800:

+ Show Spoiler +

HP Pavilion Elite HPE-150t series

4.7 out of 5 stars (12 reviews)
Lightning-fast multimedia PC delivers high-performance computing with Intel Core i5.
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-750 quad-core processor [2.66GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
FREE UPGRADE! 6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs] from 4GB
FREE UPGRADE! 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 500GB
512MB ATI Radeon HD 4350 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]
Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 month

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:26 GMT

#94

Once the price of your components begins to outstrip the extra cost of the OS, you start gaining benefits from building your own computer.

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

May 22 2010 01:31 GMT

#95

On May 22 2010 10:22 FragKrag wrote:
hard to play games without RAM right?

:3

In all honesty, I am sure that a $600 ultra computer is easy, but at $500 you are really pushing it (especially considering RAM prices these days).

Athlon II X2 + GTS 250 + 4GB (or 2GB) should be fine under $600

lol oops

Yeah I forgot to include RAM

Here we go:

Buy 2x of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231099

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Now if you go with an AMD platform, that should bring the total back under $500.

Anyways I think its definitely possible to have a rig capable of maxing sc2 for $500 if one does his or her research and purchases intelligently.As a nice plus, consider recycling your current parts: hard drives, power supply, and/or case.

FragKrag

United States11552 Posts

May 22 2010 01:35 GMT

#96

Yeah that would work :o

Personally I would go for the GTS 250 and get a Caviar Blue/Black because the Greens are pretty pitiful as main drives :/

(gotta make sure he has Windows 7 access though :< )

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

May 22 2010 01:36 GMT

#97

On May 22 2010 10:23 writer22816 wrote:

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Are you kidding me? This is the piece of shit that HP offers for $800:

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Agreed. Never ever buy a pre-built computer! They rip you off very badly, and its always wiser to buy the components and piece it together yourself. Building a computer is seriously as easy as slapping all the parts together and turning it on. Not to mention the added benefit of knowing how to REPAIR your computer or specific component should it fail in the future.