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On August 18 2010 11:53 old_blaggard wrote:
I went back and re-measured my chest. Judging from the results and how the shirt feels, it almost certainly isn't over 100cm. I admit that I haven't measured the shirt itself, as measuring sewn and formed fabric can be a bit tricky, and I don't have the patience for that right now.

As to your statement about U.S. sizes: that's true, there are no standards. However, as I said, specific brands tend to be more consistent, with the big variation occurring between brands. Furthermore, the example sizes you gave for size Small of 34 inches to 46 inches has its median at 40 inches. 100 centimeters is equivalent to 39.3 inches, so calling size 100 a Small seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Still, though, size conversion aside, I'm not the only person who has found his shirt to be a bit tight:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=5993930
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6018809

Since it's clear that several customers felt that the sizes weren't marked as expected, it's only reasonable that Kore make an effort to respond and adapt to his customers' needs. Even if we are in fact all idiots, we're the idiots who are going to be spending our money on his shop.

All right. I'm done with sizes.

Thanks, Kore, for jumping through all of the hoops, and I look forward to the next batch of merchandise.

On August 18 2010 12:46 kOre wrote:
If there were no clothes I would be very cold in the winter ... especially in Calgary lol

On August 18 2010 12:46 LonelyMargarita wrote:


The people who are upset with sizes are upset because he put a "US equivalent." They took some US shirt they liked, checked the size, and ordered based on the matching US equivalent size Kore wrote. If Kore just said, "there is no such thing as a US equivalent, as there is no standard to US sizes - go measure yourself," everything should have worked out.

Everyone in here asking others, "how will a 105 fit me, I'm 5'10", 190lb" is wasting their own time and others' time. It's the same as asking TL something that could be found on google in under a minute, except in this situation actually they can't get an accurate answer from TL - we need your body's dimensions to do that. Measuring your size is not only the only way you are going to ensure a proper fit, but it is also much faster and much more accurate than any body-type comparisons to other TLers, or basing decisions on "US equivalent" sizes.

FYI: To measure the chest of a shirt, you lay it flat on the floor, measure from side seam to side seam across the chest, and multiply by 2. It gets hard if you try to measure it the same way you measure your chest (with a flexible tape measure around the whole thing), since you can't really hold it up and open while wrapping a tape measure around it. It's actually easier than measuring your chest if you do it this way. I understand some people have trouble measuring their chest because you unfortunately can't flatten yourself down to two dimensions and use a flat measuring device like you can with a shirt. If you don't have a flexible tape, simply wrap a cord (mouse cord works) around your chest, mark off the measurement, then measure the cord to that point. Alternatively, you can just find a shirt whose chest fits perfectly, measure it, and order the smallest size shirt equal to or greater than that chest measurement. This is probably the best way to do it for people not familiar with clothing dimensions, as they don't have to guess how much extra slack they want over and above their body's dimensions.

I'll admit there are other factors that come in to play for people that seriously work out and don't have ideal proportions, but that's very, very few people here. That's why I will ask for more dimensions like neck size and sleeve diameter. For most people the chest will be the limiting factor, but if you develop a disproportionately large neck or biceps it helps to know all the dimensions and order based on your body's bottleneck.


TL;DR in red for those wanting the easiest solution. Takes less than one minute and will work for 99% of the people here.

And FWIW, I think verteqz's fits perfectly. It probably feels different than what he's used to, but it certainly looks good.

On August 17 2010 03:11 verteqz wrote:





Thanks kore, just a tad tight for my liking.

If anyone wants my size 95 let me know. I'm 5'6" 130lbs for reference.

On August 18 2010 13:53 verteqz wrote:


Thanks for the compliment, but I just gotta say for the CJ t-shirts at least, "just measuring" won't work. These things run snug, and I'm pretty familiar with Korean sizing having bought Korean apparel online more than a few times.

Here is a size 100 Oz shirt for reference:



I wanted the CJs to fit a bit tighter, but compare the pictures, the difference is more like 2 sizes. And it's not like the Oz shirt was loose or anything, it was in line with other 100 Korean shirts that I've bought.

Just sayin'.

On August 18 2010 12:46 kOre wrote:
If there were no clothes I would be very cold in the winter ... especially in Calgary lol

On August 19 2010 03:08 LonelyMargarita wrote:


Your OZ shirt is 100. Your CJ shirt is 95, or do you have a 100 and a 95? The CJ is tapered more, but that only means less slack at the waist and hips; it doesn't change the way the chest fits. If you have a 100 CJ on in the pics, it looks like your particular shirt did actually run small, but based on what you said yours is a 95. My CJ 100 is bigger than my OZ 100:


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OZ is 20.625" x 2 x 2.54 = 104.775cm
CJ is 20.75" x 2 x 2.54 = 105.41cm

On August 19 2010 04:25 verteqz wrote:

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I think with KT I'll grab both sizes just to be safe haha.