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OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
August 30 2009 08:37 GMT
#61
I'm funny.
I nail girls with my funny bone.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 31 2009 10:59 GMT
#62
fuck PUA. really, why would you wanna try all that bullshit?

just go out and start talkin. who cares if you cant talk to girls well at first? there's a beginning stage for everything. It's something that will come more naturally and easier the more you do it.

and probably the most important tip is be funny. really. especially if you meet a new girl try to make her laugh, subtly, don't make it stupidly-obvious that you're trying to say some kinda joke to get her laugh. be genuine, and if you can be that and make her laugh she'll probably atleast have some liking in you. # is easy after that
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 31 2009 11:49 GMT
#63
I agree that fear of failure is ten times out of ten the reason why intelligent but inverted people say
" Oh well I'm gonna wait/I don't wanna be one of those people/I have high standards/Blah-blah-blah".
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 11:58:09
August 31 2009 11:57 GMT
#64
some of you are bashing PUA too much

I mean, if you had to try to help one of your friends score a chick, you'd probably say similar things

be funny
don't be needy
dress well

The PUA community simply put names to these things (DHV, don't DLV, peacock). There is a need to label and be precise about certain methods. How are you going to teach anyone? It really doesn't help if you say "BE CONFIDENT" or "BE FUNNY".
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
August 31 2009 14:57 GMT
#65
On August 29 2009 03:59 Foucault wrote:
First and foremost, realize than in order to be good with women, you have to be able to manipulate and use gender roles to your advantage. What this means is that everyone has a picture of what a man and a woman is like and if you display manly traits in the right way, women will pick up on this.
Alot of PUA stuff is based on Mysterys old assumptions of what women like in men, which are based on gender roles. We're talking "protector of loved ones", independent, careless etc.

I would say I'm naturally quite good with women, and it might be because I have two sisters or whatever but I get along with women good most of the time. I think a sensibility towards people and being somewhat emotional helps alot in this, because women are very emotional and therefor seek emotional rapport and connection with others. You will need to be curious about others and respect women. Genuine likeability doesn't come from looking down on women and believing they are all whores, but to actually like women. This shines through becuase you will feel more at ease at around women and you will actually be interested in what they have to say.

So, talk to women and be interested in what they have to say but don't be interested in THEM right off the bat. You will want to suddenly go "oh well it was great talking to you, I'm gonna go talk to my friends a bit now" like talking to her ain't a biggie. Behave like discussion in general appeals to you; this will display two things: 1) You are socially competent and women like guys that can behave in public 2) You aren't showing that much interest in her specifically but rather you talk with alot of people, although you like talking to her as well.

Women aren't as sensitive as many guys think. She doesn't break or gets devastated that easily, she isn't made of glass no matter how feminine she seems. Women seem to be MUCH better at handling physical pain in general than guys and rarely complain alot when they hurt, probably because they are used to it. Monthly stomach aches and what not.

Don't be afraid to be frank about the fact that you find her attractive. Actually a frank comment like "I am attracted to you" with an easy smile just before you tell her that you will go talk to someone else can work wonders. Have the girl come chase you, not the other way around.

Learn to read peoples body language, what they say and HOW they say it. If you have good social competence I guess you are probably already somewhat good with women. Never EVER be desperate for a woman, like she would be your only choice unless you are already together. If you are already together, stop the player vibe and love your woman. Never be a crybaby or wuss about things, no one, even guys like people who just complain all the time and are scared about everything.

Things that scare you are things you should do just because they make you feel fucking alive and it's the best feeling in the world.

Hm what else...oh yeah, don't think too much. Be natural and don't overdo anything. Women look alot more at guys personalities than one would think. We are used to looking at womens face, boobs and ass and there are probably many biological reasons for this. Women look for a guy who can stand up for himself and has traits that she (and most of women) find attractive. Developing a personality will do much more for you than get a super-hot gym body. Believe that!

Be well-groomed. Clean clothes ALWAYS. Cut your nails, use a facial body lotion; they are cheap and makes your skin alot better. Brush your teeth, have decent hair. A pair of jeans and a nice t-shirt can be great, it's not that important. It's how you carry your clothes. Always walk with a fucking straight back and never ever ever ever slouch. Read the last sentence again. Look into peoples eyes no matter how uncomfortable it may be for you (seems to be for many people). Seeking eye contact and holding it although it's hard, will also help you if you have social anxiety of any degree, because you aren't looking away and imagining everyone laughing at your silly old self. You actually notice what's going on and that no ones laughing.

Finally, laugh alot and don't take meeting women so seriously. Of course you can easily get away with being laidback and not give a fuck if you are Brad Pitt or look like a greek god but like I said it's not THAT important to women with looks. It's how you carry yourself and what your personality is like that matters.

That's all for now, good luck.


My lord, what garbage. Such simplistic, generic nonsense.

OP, if you are truly searching for advice on such a topic here then your case is hopeless.

Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9014 Posts
September 01 2009 09:36 GMT
#66
Noob question, but what is "MM"?
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
September 01 2009 10:46 GMT
#67
On September 01 2009 18:36 Garnet wrote:
Noob question, but what is "MM"?


Or DLV or PUA?? :p and whats with all the books and theory on how to get girls? :p I didn't know that was a "science" ? :p Is that really popular? Or common?

You silly guys

Although I have to say I'm interested in all this pseudo crap
and
Best pickupline ever : "Why hello there" (if you ask me)
Courthead
Profile Joined October 2006
United States246 Posts
September 12 2009 01:48 GMT
#68
You know what always annoyed me about this stuff? It's so... not thorough. It only covers one thing, really: how to approach a girl in public. What about the rest of the process? Whether you want a girlfriend or you just want something physical, getting a number is only the first small step.

Personally, I have few problems approaching girls, starting conversations, being confident in public, etc. Embarrassingly enough, the situation where I suck the most is after I get a girl alone in my room with the obvious subtext of "okay this is the part where we hook up." I must be looking at it in a fundamentally wrong way, because for the life of me I just cannot transition from "haha how funny was that guy at the bar" to physical intimacy. Am I supposed to just blurt out "baby let's take off our clothes and get nasty" or what?

After 5-10 minutes of some idle chatter and some awkward silence, it's just too late... she gives me a sad look that says, "I wanted this to happen, but I guess it's not going to," then it's over. GG. You have no idea how frustrating it is to consistently get so close and fail so bad. Every time I've actually succeeded it's because the girl was drunk, told me to shutup, and basically raped me.

Any advice?
Be someone significant.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 12 2009 01:59 GMT
#69
On September 12 2009 10:48 Courthead wrote:
You know what always annoyed me about this stuff? It's so... not thorough. It only covers one thing, really: how to approach a girl in public. What about the rest of the process? Whether you want a girlfriend or you just want something physical, getting a number is only the first small step.

Personally, I have few problems approaching girls, starting conversations, being confident in public, etc. Embarrassingly enough, the situation where I suck the most is after I get a girl alone in my room with the obvious subtext of "okay this is the part where we hook up." I must be looking at it in a fundamentally wrong way, because for the life of me I just cannot transition from "haha how funny was that guy at the bar" to physical intimacy. Am I supposed to just blurt out "baby let's take off our clothes and get nasty" or what?

After 5-10 minutes of some idle chatter and some awkward silence, it's just too late... she gives me a sad look that says, "I wanted this to happen, but I guess it's not going to," then it's over. GG. You have no idea how frustrating it is to consistently get so close and fail so bad. Every time I've actually succeeded it's because the girl was drunk, told me to shutup, and basically raped me.

Any advice?



Make sure you don't just get into the room and start chatting about random stuff from across the room. That's going to make it very awkward like you said and probably prevent something from happening. You got a TV or radio in there? Pop on a movie and make her sit close to you, hold hands or arm around etc. Even with no TV if you are going into a room alone and shutting the door I am sure you both know what's coming... dont kill the mood by talking about science class. You don't want to go from a normal conversation to full fledged tackle lets get naked. Flirt with her, play with her hair. Look in her eyes, tell her you like her.

It's obvious the start is the problem for you, once you kiss her you should be fine, and remember she WANTS you to kiss her (from what you said). I'm no pro and this isn't for every situation, but don't make things harder on yourself. Just relax and once you get in the room keep her close, and keep physical contact like holding hands etc. Makes the transition infinitely easier then having to get up and walk over and try to make something happen.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 12 2009 04:33 GMT
#70
^ try the 90 percent and she give the 10 percent technique used by hitch (you get close 90 percent then she gives out the 10 percent) when you want to close the deal btw, but you really need to have build a lot of rapport to do this shit.

And listen to pufftrees advice first before this one
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 12 2009 05:28 GMT
#71
On August 30 2009 13:57 FuDDx wrote:
O god my eyes!!!!! They bleed !!!!!!! O,To be a horny raging nerd again gl guys.


Hey you magic balloon-man you have hax!

The biggest problem i think most internet addicts have is confidence + experience

Also a lot of stuff people do on the internet (including me) just eats their time, not bringing genuine joy. Now we have easy-to-use supplements that temporarily cure loneliness, sexual frustration, and boredom.

If you want to try harder to get the things you want and chase your dreams faster:

-stop jacking off
-stop playing games
-stop watching movies (actually lets just make this entertainment in general)
-stop talking to people online

Trust me you will get lonely and bored, and you will go out.

When I say stop I mean marginalize don't let your balls become watermelons
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 12 2009 05:33 GMT
#72
On September 12 2009 14:28 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2009 13:57 FuDDx wrote:
O god my eyes!!!!! They bleed !!!!!!! O,To be a horny raging nerd again gl guys.


Hey you magic balloon-man you have hax!

The biggest problem i think most internet addicts have is confidence + experience

Also a lot of stuff people do on the internet (including me) just eats their time, not bringing genuine joy. Now we have easy-to-use supplements that temporarily cure loneliness, sexual frustration, and boredom.

If you want to try harder to get the things you want and chase your dreams faster:

-stop jacking off
-stop playing games
-stop watching movies (actually lets just make this entertainment in general)
-stop talking to people online

Trust me you will get lonely and bored, and you will go out.

When I say stop I mean marginalize don't let your balls become watermelons



Oh my Godt SoD, everything you said is ME!

(except for the frequent girlfriend visits which is the only socialization I have after being out of work for half a year, but man, It really sucks too much right now doing the same routinary things all day)
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
September 12 2009 07:53 GMT
#73
On August 31 2009 23:57 Lefnui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2009 03:59 Foucault wrote:
First and foremost, realize than in order to be good with women, you have to be able to manipulate and use gender roles to your advantage. What this means is that everyone has a picture of what a man and a woman is like and if you display manly traits in the right way, women will pick up on this.
Alot of PUA stuff is based on Mysterys old assumptions of what women like in men, which are based on gender roles. We're talking "protector of loved ones", independent, careless etc.

I would say I'm naturally quite good with women, and it might be because I have two sisters or whatever but I get along with women good most of the time. I think a sensibility towards people and being somewhat emotional helps alot in this, because women are very emotional and therefor seek emotional rapport and connection with others. You will need to be curious about others and respect women. Genuine likeability doesn't come from looking down on women and believing they are all whores, but to actually like women. This shines through becuase you will feel more at ease at around women and you will actually be interested in what they have to say.

So, talk to women and be interested in what they have to say but don't be interested in THEM right off the bat. You will want to suddenly go "oh well it was great talking to you, I'm gonna go talk to my friends a bit now" like talking to her ain't a biggie. Behave like discussion in general appeals to you; this will display two things: 1) You are socially competent and women like guys that can behave in public 2) You aren't showing that much interest in her specifically but rather you talk with alot of people, although you like talking to her as well.

Women aren't as sensitive as many guys think. She doesn't break or gets devastated that easily, she isn't made of glass no matter how feminine she seems. Women seem to be MUCH better at handling physical pain in general than guys and rarely complain alot when they hurt, probably because they are used to it. Monthly stomach aches and what not.

Don't be afraid to be frank about the fact that you find her attractive. Actually a frank comment like "I am attracted to you" with an easy smile just before you tell her that you will go talk to someone else can work wonders. Have the girl come chase you, not the other way around.

Learn to read peoples body language, what they say and HOW they say it. If you have good social competence I guess you are probably already somewhat good with women. Never EVER be desperate for a woman, like she would be your only choice unless you are already together. If you are already together, stop the player vibe and love your woman. Never be a crybaby or wuss about things, no one, even guys like people who just complain all the time and are scared about everything.

Things that scare you are things you should do just because they make you feel fucking alive and it's the best feeling in the world.

Hm what else...oh yeah, don't think too much. Be natural and don't overdo anything. Women look alot more at guys personalities than one would think. We are used to looking at womens face, boobs and ass and there are probably many biological reasons for this. Women look for a guy who can stand up for himself and has traits that she (and most of women) find attractive. Developing a personality will do much more for you than get a super-hot gym body. Believe that!

Be well-groomed. Clean clothes ALWAYS. Cut your nails, use a facial body lotion; they are cheap and makes your skin alot better. Brush your teeth, have decent hair. A pair of jeans and a nice t-shirt can be great, it's not that important. It's how you carry your clothes. Always walk with a fucking straight back and never ever ever ever slouch. Read the last sentence again. Look into peoples eyes no matter how uncomfortable it may be for you (seems to be for many people). Seeking eye contact and holding it although it's hard, will also help you if you have social anxiety of any degree, because you aren't looking away and imagining everyone laughing at your silly old self. You actually notice what's going on and that no ones laughing.

Finally, laugh alot and don't take meeting women so seriously. Of course you can easily get away with being laidback and not give a fuck if you are Brad Pitt or look like a greek god but like I said it's not THAT important to women with looks. It's how you carry yourself and what your personality is like that matters.

That's all for now, good luck.


My lord, what garbage. Such simplistic, generic nonsense.

OP, if you are truly searching for advice on such a topic here then your case is hopeless.


Then what's your advice? If you can't offer anything better, how can you be one to judge if it's good advice or not and if this thread will be useless?
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 20 2009 03:42 GMT
#74
Sup fellas!

I had a scenario before when a friend's girlfriend comes popping me on MSN asking for advice regarding her current relationship, I'm more of a Bro's before Hoes kinda boy so this is a very awkward experience. I usually protect my brotha's first when it comes to relationships, because they are forever drinking buddies

She asked what the hell am I going to do if (e.i. Me and my girl wen to a fight, will I be calling/chatting my ex-gf)

So in order for me to be neutral and save my boy's balls I told her "yes" some of us men actually does it. (even thought, I really wanted not to touch the fucking subject)

So, she I dunno the next time they asked these type of questions I wanna get the fuck out at times because once she asked theses questions I'll be "woott? I fucking trap"

Any advice, regarding situations like this? Did I make it sound a little right to protect my friend?

Thanks yo!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 20 2009 03:52 GMT
#75
It would be better to talk to your bro and get him to stop disrespecting his ho if he values her. If not, then she's yours for the taking (:
Peace~
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 03:59:40
October 20 2009 03:59 GMT
#76
This is just my personal opinion, but I find all the over analysis of relationships to be really, really creepy. Talk of 'closing the deal' and 'strategies' I've seen in places other than TL (mainly.) is just weird and almost stalkerish. If I ever found out a guy I was dating talked like this or had this kind of really over analytical mind set about relationships I'd dump him immediately. Also some of the metaphors surrounding that kind of 'playa' speak make women sound like trophies or objects. I'd like to think of myself as less akin to a Pokemon and more as a human being.

Having said this I'm a woman who has devoted herself to eSports, hates clothes shopping, loves zombie games and horror movies and would rather die than sit through a chick flick. So I'm hardly in a position to speak for the 'typical' (British) girl and how she might react to reading the in-depth theorizing that surrounds picking up/dating women.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
October 20 2009 03:59 GMT
#77
One time I won a radio contest to go bungee jumping up island. I asked this girl I liked to come with me. We were to meet downtown at the radio station in the morning, so we stopped by McDonald's first for some quick take out. I ordered an unusually large breakfast in two bags, and as we left I dropped one off to the homeless guy outside without mentioning it. I even had the audacity to look a little embarrassed about it.

Later I found out that she told all her friends, and that it was worth major points. The end.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
October 20 2009 04:02 GMT
#78
^ !
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 20 2009 04:03 GMT
#79
On October 20 2009 12:59 Manifesto7 wrote:
One time I won a radio contest to go bungee jumping up island. I asked this girl I liked to come with me. We were to meet downtown at the radio station in the morning, so we stopped by McDonald's first for some quick take out. I ordered an unusually large breakfast in two bags, and as we left I dropped one off to the homeless guy outside without mentioning it. I even had the audacity to look a little embarrassed about it.

Later I found out that she told all her friends, and that it was worth major points. The end.

That would win BIG points with the right girl at the right age. Mani is still the master! (I remember that post you made to Rekrul about karaoke haha)
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 20 2009 04:06 GMT
#80
On October 20 2009 12:59 NeverGG wrote:
This is just my personal opinion, but I find all the over analysis of relationships to be really, really creepy. Talk of 'closing the deal' and 'strategies' I've seen in places other than TL (mainly.) is just weird and almost stalkerish. If I ever found out a guy I was dating talked like this or had this kind of really over analytical mind set about relationships I'd dump him immediately. Also some of the metaphors surrounding that kind of 'playa' speak make women sound like trophies or objects. I'd like to think of myself as less akin to a Pokemon and more as a human being.

Having said this I'm a woman who has devoted herself to eSports, hates clothes shopping, loves zombie games and horror movies and would rather die than sit through a chick flick. So I'm hardly in a position to speak for the 'typical' (British) girl and how she might react to reading the in-depth theorizing that surrounds picking up/dating women.

The truth is that men are easier to seduce than women, almost laughably so. That's why you rarely see any topic anywhere about women trying hard and devising strategies to get men, even in communities that aren't mostly male like TL. Consider it flattery ;D
Peace~
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