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GTR
51706 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:01 d_so wrote: i think the +5 damage is inconsequential against Z ground forces as hydras die one hit to tanks anyway and zerglings only take 25 percent damage. splash damage + more dmg under swarm. i always rush for it when i go for a tank-heavy tvz build, it just chews apart any army the zerg throws at you when you get to +3. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: actually thats more our perspective than theirs. proleague grand final is the single most important event to every progamer thats the most overgeneralizing assumption I have ever read. You cant even speak korean but certainly you know what is most important to every progamer... | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:01 Kentor wrote: who wants to watch some penn and teller with me before i rage sleep How do you rage sleep? Do you like, punch your pillow while catching zzz's? | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:59 OneOther wrote: i actually think it would have made a huge difference. having one marine behind the wall constantly shooting at the six initial lings would have allowed fantasy to set up a much better defense before zergling speed finished. he could have at least gotten a bunker or something. i doubt jaedong would have continued to make that many zerglings if fantasy had done that. jaedong saw the opportunity and seized it. that's possible. we can't say for sure how jaedong would react but i'm fairly certain he could break down that wall with zerglings whether there was a marine present or not. killing those vultures would be his #1 priority once he saw the wall was trapping them, and he was making additional lings already by the time his first ones arrived. he may or may not have continued production of 'em, we'll never know hahah | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
it would have helped without a doubt but i think fantasy wanted to spend every mineral/gas on building up his final army. he knew that was his last shot. | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:01 d_so wrote: i think the +5 damage is inconsequential against Z ground forces as hydras die one hit to tanks anyway and zerglings only take 25 percent damage. 50% --> 70 --> 35 zergling dies unless it has armor (it will) but that many tanks + splash, no real need to get ups | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:02 GTR wrote: splash damage + more dmg under swarm. i always rush for it when i go for a tank-heavy tvz build, it just chews apart any army the zerg throws at you when you get to +3. yeah i would think especially if you are using siege to attack swarm you would want some ups. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:59 alffla wrote: i love both of them in terms of skill and whatever its just the same bunch of progamers and stuff vs each other Exactly. but come on all the awesome intro openings are from OSL Umm... no. I've always liked the MSL openings more than the OSL of the same season  . The only exception was EVER07.OSL got all those legendary things like ROYAL ROADUUu and Golden platinum mouse etc Probably cuz its older. got KIM CARRI etcet MSL's got Nal_ra. Case closed | ||
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Plutonium
United States2217 Posts
I don't think Fantasy has the type of champion gut instincts to beat the greatest when he's up there alone on the stage. He can pretty much outmuscle anyone when he's had a strategy prepared for him, or if they're playing in the dark as well, but when it comes down to a pitched battle on all levels in a Bo5, he just can't hold his own against the adaptive and strategic minds of the truly great players. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:02 damenmofa wrote: thats the most overgeneralizing assumption I have ever read. You cant even speak korean but certainly you know what is most important to every progamer... Oh snap. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:02 damenmofa wrote: thats the most overgeneralizing assumption I have ever read. You cant even speak korean but certainly you know what is most important to every progamer... Interviews? Daniel Lee? | ||
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kaleidoscope
Singapore2887 Posts
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Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:56 Uligor wrote: I, admittedly a Fantasy fan, must disagree with the comparison between Fantasy's cheese and Jaedong's cheese. Fantasy's cheese was not just a simple BBS, it was a smart fake wall-in strategy that was new and innovative. Jaedong's 4 pool on the other hand was not innovative at all, though to his credit he did display cleverness by hiding the additional lings. The statement "You liked Fantasy's cheese so therefore you cannot dislike Jaedong's cheese" is therefore in my opinion inaccurate because they were different on a strategic level. The statement is also a double-edged sword because a good portion of the Jaedong fans now cheering for Jaedong's cheese loathed Fantasy's cheese. While I understand that the whole "cheese hate" is simply an excuse to bash another player, I still think I should point that this statement is shallow. Definitely agree. It's not like Jaedong didn't display skill in his execution, but from what I know (I didn't see the game you refer to) Fantasy's cheese was more ingenious. What I liked more about the 4-pool is that it was a do-or-die strat, extremely ballsy, while (from what I know) Fantasy's build was much safer. I think Fantasy would take a bo5 if it were played right after these games - sucks he couldn't really show off what SKT had prepared for Jaedong. I'm still glad Jaedong used pure instinct to take Fantasy out though. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:02 GTR wrote: splash damage + more dmg under swarm. i always rush for it when i go for a tank-heavy tvz build, it just chews apart any army the zerg throws at you when you get to +3. yah but it's not like you can shift+attack a bunch of different units like you do against goons since zerg units are so fast (actually dragoons just move retardedly). So the AoE of the splash is really small, not spread out against z forces like against toss. not to say +1 attack wouldn't help but i guess in matter or priority in TvZ it's quite low | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:01 Malinor wrote: It is really not to hard to understand I believe. Pro League Grand Finals are once a year, but you have like 3 MSLs and 3OSLs during that time. What makes it that special is really that it is a unique event. And for the sponsors it should be more important than individual titles. On the other hand, if in Round2Week3 of PL a player also has an OSL semifinal or whatever, I am 100% certain his focus will be on the individual league. I don't know the mentallity of koreans regarding individual achievments vs team achievements though. haha well that should go without saying  | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
I'm not saying Jaedong should be doing crazy innovative stuff. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On August 14 2009 21:03 o3.power91 wrote: Exactly. Umm... no. I've always liked the MSL openings more than the OSL of the same season . The only exception was EVER07.Probably cuz its older. MSL's got Nal_ra. Case closed older thus has established more prestige'. CASE CLOSEED! :D:D:D wtf u like the msl openings i think they're all so noob. only one i liked was the one where bisu was waving blue glowy things around lol | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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