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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
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I love you... didnt know if these were streamed or not.
Why are you so awesome.
Better question... FLASH AND LETA PWNING NEW PLAYERS = way awesome.
Edit: Though the direct stream isnt working for me.
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<3 for thread and stream. Hoping for good games but one-sided rape is very likely ;/
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
P.S: Today is Kingdom's first day as a commentator!
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The calendar made a mistake. The first game should be JangBi/ winDy. And 2nd game Flash/ JwaJa.
Anyway, I hope to see some good games rather than the expected pure rape.
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Yay! I remember last year where it was just one thread. Sucks for the amateurs, all but one has to face a progamer in their best MU.
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JWANJA FAN FOR LIFE! 2-0 this newb!
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
On August 10 2009 12:49 baubo wrote:The calendar made a mistake. The first game should be JangBi/ winDy. And 2nd game Flash/ JwaJa. Anyway, I hope to see some good games rather than the expected pure rape. kk fixed
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Haha Jangbi is going to MURDER windy
Anyone know what happened to liveongame? Been down for a few days now.
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If Flash doesn't 2-0 I will cut myself
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I can't wait to see what the amateurs have in store tonight =] Last year there was some crazy upsets, hopefully at least one can happen again this year.
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
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nice!!! kingdom commentating!!!!
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
starcraft sending out 3 for SC, 3 for WC3, 2 for Fifa 09, 1 for CS, etc etc
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On August 10 2009 12:58 tree.hugger wrote:Hoping for some really clever, inspired play from these amateurs. I'd say JwaJa has the best shot, but then again, it's Flash...
Nothing about Flash's play has indicated that he's not still invincible against mid-level and below pros. He just can't beat the elite with consistency right now. He's crushed every mediocre Zerg he's played in 2009 (except Oversky, but that was on Battle Royal). I still consider Flash to be the least likely player to lose a random game to a mediocre opponent in ANY game.
If Flash loses one of these games ... ugh, it will be indefensible =(
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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oh cool someone is streaming this...thanks kona ^_^
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
i like kingdom's commentary
good voice, very knowledgable. Expected from a former player-turned-coach.
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Windy: Just a normal guy with a dream of going to the world cyber games......qualifying from....korea.
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Poor Windy.. he tried so hard.
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Yawn, boring first game. You've got to give Windy some credit for surviving that long, though.
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janbi got 5 expos so fast with such ease
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is awesome32271 Posts
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Poor windy, I wanted you to win because I play Terran....too bad you had to face a PvT monster in your first game =[
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Osaka27136 Posts
LR please. Some of us are stuck at work with shitty internet.
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That was a slow painful death for Windy. By not harrassing he did have plenty of vultures for defense. But you know you're screwed if the protoss can take the middle base w/o fear.
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Game 2 Outsider.
Jangbi 9 oclock gateway first. Windy 1 oclock walling in. Prevent scouting probe from getting in.
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Windy going for fast...academy, bio rush? Well, Jangbi is DT rushing, so it'll work either way. Okay, baubo's got this covered.
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On August 10 2009 13:37 tree.hugger wrote:Recap:After testing the waters with initial pressure which winDy defends easily, JangBi macros up and expands with impunity. Despite attempts at vulture harass, winDy is unable to make any dent in JangBi's econ as his efforts are constantly thwarted by pylon walls or marauding dragoons. After getting a quick second, winDy takes a long time to secure his third expansion and is far behind when JangBi's arbiter tech comes. JangBi recalls into the main but winDy defends well, and pushes out, again forcing JangBi's army into retreat. winDy finally expands, but the economic deficit is too much to recover from as JangBi constantly punishes winDy's army for leaving home, and finally breaks it down. JangBi 1 > winDy 0
thanks for that! Would be cool if we can have some more of this for the later games too : )
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Windy with Academy and Armory following factory, I think. The stream skipped for a bit. Jangbi going DT drop.
Jangbi harassing the wall.
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Windy put down a VERY EARLY ARMORY. Before CC armory. wtf? lol
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3 fac double armory off of one base?
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Windy should've put his barracks down, another DT walks him. Windy's low on scans.
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Jangbi is so good at abusing protoss it's not even funny.
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This is a weird game. Jangbi is dropping DT's. Killing some SCV's and random marines
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hahah jangbi is pounding in front of his door
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Windy sucks. He did a quick scan 3 fact BO vs DT drop. And gets raped. Come on... That's literally a direct counter to Jangbi's build (except late engineering bay).
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Windy adds factories, going for a 1-base push. Jangbi's DTs getting in and messing up stuff. Not enough scans. Jangbi evenually breaks through the wallin. Windy GGs.
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Windy is getting owned pretty bad, toss units everwhere in his main. and its GG
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jangbi is inside windy's base gg
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goons+ DTs break front... Jangbi n main i guess is over
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DTs ftw..
Windy didn't stand a chance, poor guy.
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What a waste of JangBi's time.
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well nothing really surprising so far...
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Recap:
winDy walls in and denies JangBi's scouting. he then proceeds to throw down an armory and a an academy at the same time, in what can only be a bizarre anti-drop build. JangBi oblidges him, coming with two gate dts, and dropping them on winDy's head. winDy has no turrets, not enough mines, and apparently no scans. JangBi pushes in with three goons and a lot, and with no tanks remaining, winDy has nothing left to do but gg.
JangBi 2 > winDy 0 JangBi, as expected, holds.
The first of the amatures holds his own in Game 1, but cannot hard counter JangBi in Game 2. Mixed performance from the terran. On to JwaJa.
EDIT: No problem!
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Thanks for recaps tree.hugger
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I'm still not sure what the academy's for. Armory I can sort of understand if he wants a goliath or two for the shuttle. But one scanner is useless against DTs from a player the level of Jangbi.
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Maybe he expected a reaver drop, because he could not have expected to stop a dt drop with no turrets and only one scanner. The scan might've been to confirm that Jangbi was actually going for a drop.
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Flash vs JwaJwa next I predict another stomping
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JwaJa is a semi-pro, so he should be more of a match to Flash than Windy was for Jangbi.
Still, I expect Flash to make butter out of him.
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On August 10 2009 13:59 dasanivan wrote: JwaJa is a semi-pro, so he should be more of a match to Flash than Windy was for Jangbi.
Still, I expect Flash to make butter out of him.
Yeah umm. Good luck I guess heh.
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Tuneing in your greatness.
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flash's face looks more scary than usual.
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Go Flash! Hope to see you finally qualify to WCG.
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12 hatch coming from JwaJwa 1 rax FE from Flash
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1rax cc for flash 3hatch for jwajwa
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flash snipes ovie with 3 rines..
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hahahahahahaha free ov kill for flash
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LOOOOL JWAJWA loses an overlord already
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This year's amateurs suck compared to last year's. Is Jwajwa even multitasking? Did he practice?
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placing hidden den at 3rd base
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Early 3rd base, Den after lair's complete, what a haphazard BO. And a delayed spire too.
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JwaJwa is getting a hydralisk den before spire? Unless i didnt see the spire
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his nerves prolly aren't strong enough
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On August 10 2009 14:04 Avidkeystamper wrote: This year's amateurs suck compared to last year's. Is Jwajwa even multitasking? Did he practice? lol remember that samsung amateur who got Sea by surviving off carriers
then when that guy faced bisu, he built like 5000 cannons in blue storm, and bisu just moved his units into that guy's base using 2 shuttles and winning?
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Flash moves towards Z base 3 medics like 10rines
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Jwajwa didn't save his larvae for the spire, possible lurkers? Yes lurkers.
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going for the 3 base 2 sunk up for the Z
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Now going at natural 4 lurkers morphing for Z
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On August 10 2009 14:07 checo wrote: going for the 3 base 2 sunk up for the Z
On August 10 2009 14:06 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:04 Avidkeystamper wrote: This year's amateurs suck compared to last year's. Is Jwajwa even multitasking? Did he practice? lol remember that samsung amateur who got Sea by surviving off carriers then when that guy faced bisu, he built like 5000 cannons in blue storm, and bisu just moved his units into that guy's base using 2 shuttles and winning? Wasn't that Iron? Qualified for OSL and bombed.
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Other grup MnM Lurkers ready
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jwajwa with his fail bo loses his third
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Flash going for the 3, he got it
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Flash pushing into Jwa's third, killing everything. Including Den, and queen's nest. LOL!
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third being destroyed by flash.
zerg attacking flashes temple.
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hes trying to get the temples on flash base with lurkers flash knows it
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JwaJwa tries to sneak Lurks behind Flash's nat, but fails miserably, and rines take it out
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Look at this finger booming going on guys.
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Flash now going for the natural
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Flash has triple the supply. This is over. Was 5 minutes ago.
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jwajwa had a quick 3rd base got killed by mm force by flash (that base had like 2 drones though) now going hive
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Greater spire and defiler den going down for jwa.
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Lurkers attacking temple mopped up by some marines.
flash has a nice large army, looks like he's about to roll soon.
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3 lurkers+ 3 sunkens for defense
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ROFL GREATER SPIRE AND DEFILERS ALREADY GOING UP Off 2 bases. Flash is double even triple's Jwa's supply
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hes moving out, but other 2 grups or MnM moving in + tanks
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Dropship underway for FlaSh. And Flash snipes another stray overlord. First defilers are out consuming some zerglings.
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
Lmao... 124 supply vs 46 supply.
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Flash is ferrying units into Jwa's base and its GG
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh is showing some incredibly clean MnM micro. And jwa GG's after getting hit hard by the drop in the main.
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lurkers repel part of an attack but more coming on the other side.
flahs coming in with a drop, successful.
gg.
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Flash rolled that guy lol.
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yea, wasn't even close :\
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Jwa c'mon 2-1 this newbie!
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Pretty nice m&m splits by Flash
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jwaja is about to 2-1 this.
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He made a greater spire but never made a single muta.
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Flash should go 4port wraiths again next game just for the fun of it.
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Naw, Flash should go BCs and Valkries.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Recap: The high point of JwaJa's effort is the solid drone micro he displays against Flash's barracks scv. It isn't enough to kill the scv anyway. JwaJa expands to three hatch, and builds a hydra den in his second expo. Meanwhile, Flash kills an overlord that JwaJa left sitting in the middle of nowhere, and forces JwaJa to build sunkens in two places. One control group later, Flash has taken out the second expo, the hydra den, and the queen's nest. JwaJa sends lurkers around to kill the temple which Flash spots, and quickly shuts down. Flash then masses bionic units, and ferrys them into JwaJa's main for style points. There are unconfirmed reports that JwaJa's greater spire may have finished though, so we can be assured that had JwaJa not gg'd he would have made one, doomed mutalisk that would have been killed before achieving the dream of guardian-dom. Totally one-sided.
Flash 1 > JwaJa 0
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Nobody said anything about
KINGDOM CASTING?
All of you are failures!
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On August 10 2009 14:17 MrHoon wrote: Nobody said anything about
KINGDOM CASTING?
All of you are failures! Kingdom is casting.
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oh yeah, kingdom is doing fantastic.
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On August 10 2009 14:17 MrHoon wrote: Nobody said anything about
KINGDOM CASTING?
All of you are failures!
For people who don't know Korean, it all sounds the same.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Alright Outsider. Flash at 6, Jwa at 9.
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On August 10 2009 14:19 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:17 MrHoon wrote: Nobody said anything about
KINGDOM CASTING?
All of you are failures! For people who don't know Korean, it all sounds the same.
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I don't see why this guy is so against 5pool. Hoping Flash 14cc's is his best chance at winning.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh looks like he's gonna do a 1Supply, 1 Rax, 1Fac wall-in from his wall in form.
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Z ovie goign to flash base, drone scouting wrong way
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kingdom discussing bsb. I wonder how many people have used this build since Fanta vs. Jaedong? I know I have
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I smell a vulture getting 20 drone/ling kills
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3 hatch again, Flash will have an especially easy time.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh sitll has 3 on gas. Looks like it might be some sort of 2port perhaps?
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3hatch on mineral only base at 10 for Z flash walling
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On August 10 2009 14:21 dasanivan wrote:kingdom discussing bsb. I wonder how many people have used this build since Fanta vs. Jaedong? I know I have 
What is BSB? Rax supply rax?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
BAHAHA, Called it. It's 2 port from FlAsh.
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On August 10 2009 14:22 SilverskY wrote: FlaSh sitll has 3 on gas. Looks like it might be some sort of 2port perhaps? Yep you are right
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2 star, hahahaha. There is absolutely no chance of Jwaja can defend this if he doesn't scout it.
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Jwajwa should know since both rax and fac are not blinking.
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Wraiths are out for Flash, kills an overlord
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On August 10 2009 14:22 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:21 dasanivan wrote:kingdom discussing bsb. I wonder how many people have used this build since Fanta vs. Jaedong? I know I have  What is BSB? Rax supply rax?
yes, it is the new economy friendly cheese build.
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1 wraith out killing ovi at flash base
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hidra den+ evo 2 wraiths killing drones 3 now
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh killing drones left and right and cloak upgrade on the way.
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flash 2port wraith >jwajwa
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2kills on 1 of those wraiths
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I counted 8-9 drone kills
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On August 10 2009 14:24 dasanivan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:22 Zzoram wrote:On August 10 2009 14:21 dasanivan wrote:kingdom discussing bsb. I wonder how many people have used this build since Fanta vs. Jaedong? I know I have  What is BSB? Rax supply rax? yes, it is the new economy friendly cheese build.
What's the build order? 8rax 9sup 10rax?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
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11kills on those wraiths in total
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Osaka27136 Posts
Thanks a lot for the recaps tree.hugger
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh transitioning into MnM now. No machine shop on the fac yet, so I assume no tanks.
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On August 10 2009 14:26 checo wrote: 11kills on those wraiths in total
make that 13
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Flash is doing SO much damage with his wraiths. It's unbelievable
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So I heard mutas were good units in ZvT.
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Alright well. This is some kinda beatdown. Lets see what fight this kid still has left!
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh just killed like 3 hydras with handsome wraith micro and sniped 2 more overlords.
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lol Flash could almost beat him with only wraiths
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zerg walled himself in :/
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh looks like he has massed critical mass of wraiths where he can one shot Hydras with one pass.
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finally flash taking natural
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flash trapped an scv to micro his wraiths.
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Flash pretending he's playing ZvT
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Ovi speed seems like Z may try droping at flash
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Jwa looks like he's about to do a drop on the bottom.
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flash spots it with turret lets see how he reacts
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Jwa moving out with a large large army of lurks/hydras
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lol he's gonna lose cuz he was dicking around too much
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Jwa crashes the natural but to no avail. Loses everything.
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Hey it was a good effort!
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LOL his wraiths stop the huge zerg push
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Wow that was double fail =/..
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Attack on the backside of FlaSh's main from jwa fails as well. FlaSh defending these attacks with his eyes closed.
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atack easy defend by flash... Z just losse to many units and got nothing
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Jwa suicides everything trying to go up the ramp at the bottom of Flash's base
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Sigh. Not a single good game. 
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Z going hive(Q nest) + double gas at 11
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jwa runs his sizable army into the nat. flash's nice defense--including popping out his marines out of his bunkers to stim them before ushering them back in--caused the zerg to lose almost everything. jwa then tries to go in from the back with his previously dropped force but gets defended as well.
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Flash force hatch at 11 cancel with wraiths
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HOLY CRAP SOME VERY VERY NICE MARINE MICRO
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On August 10 2009 14:32 baubo wrote:Sigh. Not a single good game. 
Well the first game was.. okay.
With Jangbi I mean.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh just showed some cool MnM control against a lurker with 3 marines and a medic.
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God damn boxer miren micro to kill 2 lurkers in flash main
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Flash pushing natural it will be over soon
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Flash Rape all the Z army
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Here comes the runover from flash.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Flash just a-moves in with siege and MnM and Jwa GG's.
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flash gots natural and GG
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Flash is pushing into Jwa's main with tanks and MnM and he GG's! 2-0 Easy.
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It's just weird to think that Jwaja would destroy me harder than Flash destroyed him. Starcraft is such a great game.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh just made Jwa look like some D- Zerg. Incredible...
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Recap: JwaJa goes for a three hatch again, but after scouting the wrong way, he is left with no information about Flash's intentions. These nefarious intentions manifest themselves as a two-port attack, thereby gratifying the fans of Leta who were disappointed to learn that he wasn't playing. Despite not having a hydralisk den in any kind of time, JwaJa is able to shrug off most of the harass (read: not die) with spore colonies, losing only a few (read: 5-9) drones in the process. Flash stops pretending that he's Leta and builds marines. Ironically, it is only with a control group of mnm outside JwaJa's stunningly unit-free base, does Flash start to micro his wraiths like a champ, and frustrates JwaJa's hydralisks and overlords by sniping more drones, ovies, and (of all things) sunken colonies. A slow, roundabout drop by JwaJa is totally ineffective, and so is the accompaning push, in which JwaJa demonstrates terrible lurker control. Flash's defense is too perfect, as JwaJa's every move is frustrated. As JwaJa's defilers struggle to come into existance, Flash's tanks blow JwaJa's natural to hell, and he gg's, again right before Hive Tech can kick in.
Flash 2 > JwaJa 0
It was pretty obvious who the former starleague finalists were tonight.
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Good to see that Flash can still bash noobs :D
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They should have given the pros a handicap or something, anything to make the games at least mildly interesting.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
FlaSh's supply in both games were literally twice as much as Jwa's for at least 85% of the games.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On August 10 2009 14:41 darktreb wrote: They should have given the pros a handicap or something, anything to make the games at least mildly interesting. they should do what they used to do in @Play with Ra: You can't see your mineral and minimap haha
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Lol, sounds like the amateurs got pwned as expected.
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On August 10 2009 14:37 tree.hugger wrote:Recap:Despite not having a hydralisk den in any kind of time, JwaJa is able to shrug off most of the harass with spore colonies, losing only a few drones in the process. Flash 2 > JwaJa 0 It was pretty obvious who the former starleague finalists were tonight.
... Flash got at least 12 drones and several overlords.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On August 10 2009 14:46 Orbifold wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:37 tree.hugger wrote:Recap:Despite not having a hydralisk den in any kind of time, JwaJa is able to shrug off most of the harass with spore colonies, losing only a few drones in the process. Flash 2 > JwaJa 0 It was pretty obvious who the former starleague finalists were tonight. ... Flash got at least 12 drones and several overlords.
Yeah. FlaSh got at least like 15 drones, a handful of hydralisks and like almost a control group of overlords.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Having triple your opponents supply in TvZ is usually a good thing. Especially when it's 120 to about 35.
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On August 10 2009 14:34 viewer wrote:Well the first game was.. okay. With Jangbi I mean.
I guess the battles looked pretty even. But Jangbi was at +2/+3 bases for half the game.
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Wow, Flash is like Del Potro. Basically wins everything except the Grand Slams. Crazy stuff. If he wins 1 or 2 more OSLs and a couple of MSLs, he might be the new GOAT.
As of now, Jaedong is the GOAT.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 10 2009 14:46 Orbifold wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2009 14:37 tree.hugger wrote:Recap:Despite not having a hydralisk den in any kind of time, JwaJa is able to shrug off most of the harass with spore colonies, losing only a few drones in the process. Flash 2 > JwaJa 0 It was pretty obvious who the former starleague finalists were tonight. ... Flash got at least 12 drones and several overlords.
On August 10 2009 14:37 tree.hugger wrote: Ironically, it is only with a control group of mnm outside JwaJa's stunningly unit-free base, does Flash start to micro his wraiths like a champ, and frustrates JwaJa's hydralisks and overlords by sniping (of all things) sunken colonies.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Yeah I'm gonna do interviews because winning against amateurs don't deserve their own threads. Hell they don't deserve to be translated. But I've found something very interesting people might want to see (Mostly SKT/KTF fans)
Flash Interview - You won both games with ease ▲ I want to say my win against amateurs are nothing for me to celebrate about. My goal is to pass RO16, RO8, semifinals and finals so I can represent Korea in WCG
- Did you take a break after proleagues? ▲ Due to allstars and other events KTF sent me to, other than meeting some old friends I have not taken a proper break. I couldn't relax alot, but I am a progamer. And as a progamer, despite being worn out I'd be happier to have a league I could play in.
- Alot of fans are saying "Fantasy is the #1 Terran" now, how do you feel about this? ▲ I don't read forums and other communities, but Fantasy Hyung is doing great right now, and as of now I would also agree that he should (if people do not admit still) be the #1 Terran. However I want to say I have GOMTV finals still so please don't be so harsh on me!
- Your next opponent is either Effort or Sea.Really ▲ Effort is amazing at ZvT and to be honest, I really want a chance to play against effort and win.
- GOMTV finals are here soon ▲ I will start practicing today and try my best at the finals (T/N: Before you guys chew on this answer, no he is no underestimating/being arrogant against, all his KTF Event things ended today, so NOW he has time to practice)
- Last words ▲ Last time I got to WCG prelims, I lost against Much in a close game and I think this WCG will be a great chance for me. Also, I think this WCG will be a chance for me to get back to my old self so I can show everyone I will still be a contender for the other upcoming leagues.
+ Show Spoiler [Netizens!] +Netizenwow he admitted Fantasy is better NetizenAs a flash fan, I am thankful you don't read the forums. You would probably end your Progamer career if you did NetizenIf Flash wins gom and Fantasy drops off Semifinal OSL, what would happen? NetizenWe will have 2 top terrans then? NetizenAs a SKT fan I only support 2 Top terran between these 2 because they are friends and I like them both. Netizenfuck leta, fantasy/flash for lief Netizen win gomtv and win back #1 terran spot Flash! NetizenFor 2 years Flash you have held your spot as #1 terran while all other Terrans failed to do their part. I wish you can return to your former self and comeback as the flash I used to know and love NetizenJung Laden vs Cheesy Bitch. Gogo Cheesy Bitch! YOU ARE NUMBER 1 NetizenFlash hasn't been on TV for a looong time. If Flash starts getting some airtime again pretty sure it will shift toward Flash again. NetizenWhy can't we have "2 Best Terrans"? Do we seriously need it to be "#1 Terran"? Why can't we enjoy both players? NetizenSKT isn't in GOMTV, Iris sux and flash will sux NetizenIris beat Bisu. WHO CARES GO FLASH NetizenAs a Fantasy fan, I still think calling Fantasy #1 terran is not right. If Fantasy wins OSL, then yes, unarguably Fantasy is #1. But if Fantasy doesnt win OSL, then its still hard to say who... Flash placed 2nd in # of wins in Proleague. I don't understand why people keep forgetting this. He also has a 70% win chance in proleague. Fantasy on the other hand has around 50% win chance. Flash does get help from the coaching staff and his fellow companions. But compared the what Fantasy gets help from? Fantasy gets help from the greatest Staff right now, he has 2 living bonjwas in the team (who nurture him everyday) and I think it's unfair. Flash's nickname is "Child Labor Terran". He pulls his shittastic team up to 7th place all by himself. Yes Flash has dropped OSL and Fantasy got through OSL semifinals. But think of it this way; if Fantasy was in Flash's group and Flash was in Fantasy's group, how different would the story be? Netizenwel u no wut?? flah is borng so he can go die LOLOLOLOL Netizen^^^ and this is why Esports is dying. Because faggots like you exist. Netizenhaha ur gunna get 2:0'd by effort, and fantasy will 2:0 some other zerg to prove u still suck Netizenflash fighting
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Flash tells it like it is as always. It pains me to see that the YOUNGEST good player in all of progaming* sounds like a washed up old pro.
"I will still be a contender for the other upcoming leagues" D=
Thanks MrHoon!
* no offense Baby, Snow, etc., but you guys need to actually MAKE a Starleague first ... until then, Flash is the youngest good player still
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
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@netizen dont fuck leta, he is bonjwa
EDIT: w00t firebat :D
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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Thanks MrHoon for the interview, But it hurts me to see Flash being so over-used by his fucking team.
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Where can I watch these games?
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IMO
Leta - best tvz Flash - best tvt Fantasy - best tvp
On August 11 2009 01:35 Tonyy wrote: Where can I watch these games?
Jon747's youtube account has them.
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On August 11 2009 01:41 MuffinDude wrote:IMO Leta - best tvz Flash - best tvt Fantasy - best tvp Jon747's youtube account has them.
Leta doesn't have best TvZ. He has "best 2-port wraith" I guess, but he is a lot less dominate in the MU than fantasy or flash outside of that strategy. flash has shown that he is a lot more stable and dominate in the MU by having stronger mechanics and game-sense, while fantasy has shown that he can take down any Zerg due to his large variety in strategies.
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To bad no Liquibet easy wins
btw ideas, flash has said his tvz is his worst mu. it wouldn't be reasonable to say leta/fantasy/hwasin have better tvz. not to mention they don't lose cause of 14 cc vs 9 pool
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On August 10 2009 15:09 ssj114 wrote: As of now, Jaedong is the GOAT.
Right on! Jaedong has: a) Highest elo peak ever! b) Most OSL wins ever! c) Most MSL wins ever! d) None of the above.
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On August 11 2009 02:52 zgl wrote:Right on! Jaedong has: a) Highest elo peak ever! b) Most OSL wins ever! c) Most MSL wins ever! d) None of the above. Neither do any of the other Bonjwas. Just pointing out that if you want to refute it, use sound arguments.
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On August 11 2009 02:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2009 02:52 zgl wrote:On August 10 2009 15:09 ssj114 wrote: As of now, Jaedong is the GOAT. Right on! Jaedong has: a) Highest elo peak ever! b) Most OSL wins ever! c) Most MSL wins ever! d) None of the above. Neither do any of the other Bonjwas. Just pointing out that if you want to refute it, use sound arguments.
Bisu has two of the above 3 (tied for most msl is good enough). Who cares whether he is considered a bonjwa or not :p
edit: July/Nada also have two of the above 3. Savior is pretty damn close. Iloveoov also, but with more proleague accomplishments.
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Yeah, I'll accept that JD won't be one ever. Oh well, I'll keep supporting him.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Netizens are awesome. As always, thanks for netizen translations MrHoon!
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I don't dislike Jaedong. I am just against the whole "XXX is best ever" fanboys. Calling Jaedong the GOAT is hugely disrespectful to the likes of Oov/Boxer/Nada/Savior etc..
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everywhere i go, theres this jaedong vs bisu shit
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On August 10 2009 16:38 MrHoon wrote:Yeah I'm gonna do interviews because winning against amateurs don't deserve their own threads. Hell they don't deserve to be translated. But I've found something very interesting people might want to see (Mostly SKT/KTF fans) Flash Interview- You won both games with ease ▲ I want to say my win against amateurs are nothing for me to celebrate about. My goal is to pass RO16, RO8, semifinals and finals so I can represent Korea in WCG - Did you take a break after proleagues? ▲ Due to allstars and other events KTF sent me to, other than meeting some old friends I have not taken a proper break. I couldn't relax alot, but I am a progamer. And as a progamer, despite being worn out I'd be happier to have a league I could play in. - Alot of fans are saying "Fantasy is the #1 Terran" now, how do you feel about this? ▲ I don't read forums and other communities, but Fantasy Hyung is doing great right now, and as of now I would also agree that he should (if people do not admit still) be the #1 Terran. However I want to say I have GOMTV finals still so please don't be so harsh on me! - Your next opponent is either Effort or Sea.Really ▲ Effort is amazing at ZvT and to be honest, I really want a chance to play against effort and win. - GOMTV finals are here soon ▲ I will start practicing today and try my best at the finals (T/N: Before you guys chew on this answer, no he is no underestimating/being arrogant against, all his KTF Event things ended today, so NOW he has time to practice)- Last words ▲ Last time I got to WCG prelims, I lost against Much in a close game and I think this WCG will be a great chance for me. Also, I think this WCG will be a chance for me to get back to my old self so I can show everyone I will still be a contender for the other upcoming leagues. + Show Spoiler [Netizens!] +Netizenwow he admitted Fantasy is better NetizenAs a flash fan, I am thankful you don't read the forums. You would probably end your Progamer career if you did NetizenIf Flash wins gom and Fantasy drops off Semifinal OSL, what would happen? NetizenWe will have 2 top terrans then? NetizenAs a SKT fan I only support 2 Top terran between these 2 because they are friends and I like them both. Netizenfuck leta, fantasy/flash for lief Netizen win gomtv and win back #1 terran spot Flash! NetizenFor 2 years Flash you have held your spot as #1 terran while all other Terrans failed to do their part. I wish you can return to your former self and comeback as the flash I used to know and love NetizenJung Laden vs Cheesy Bitch. Gogo Cheesy Bitch! YOU ARE NUMBER 1 NetizenFlash hasn't been on TV for a looong time. If Flash starts getting some airtime again pretty sure it will shift toward Flash again. NetizenWhy can't we have "2 Best Terrans"? Do we seriously need it to be "#1 Terran"? Why can't we enjoy both players? NetizenSKT isn't in GOMTV, Iris sux and flash will sux NetizenIris beat Bisu. WHO CARES GO FLASH NetizenAs a Fantasy fan, I still think calling Fantasy #1 terran is not right. If Fantasy wins OSL, then yes, unarguably Fantasy is #1. But if Fantasy doesnt win OSL, then its still hard to say who... Flash placed 2nd in # of wins in Proleague. I don't understand why people keep forgetting this. He also has a 70% win chance in proleague. Fantasy on the other hand has around 50% win chance. Flash does get help from the coaching staff and his fellow companions. But compared the what Fantasy gets help from? Fantasy gets help from the greatest Staff right now, he has 2 living bonjwas in the team (who nurture him everyday) and I think it's unfair. Flash's nickname is "Child Labor Terran". He pulls his shittastic team up to 7th place all by himself. Yes Flash has dropped OSL and Fantasy got through OSL semifinals. But think of it this way; if Fantasy was in Flash's group and Flash was in Fantasy's group, how different would the story be? Netizenwel u no wut?? flah is borng so he can go die LOLOLOLOL Netizen^^^ and this is why Esports is dying. Because faggots like you exist. Netizenhaha ur gunna get 2:0'd by effort, and fantasy will 2:0 some other zerg to prove u still suck Netizenflash fighting
Flash is so humble.. <3 <3 Fantasy as well
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On August 11 2009 02:52 zgl wrote:Right on! Jaedong has: a) Highest elo peak ever! b) Most OSL wins ever! c) Most MSL wins ever! d) None of the above.
A
Nada:
B,C
July
B
Bisu & Iloveoov
C
Everyone else
D
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Wtf, more like A: Bisu B: Nada+July C: Iloveoov, Savior, Bisu, Nada (oops)
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On August 11 2009 05:19 Avidkeystamper wrote: Wtf, more like A: Bisu B: Nada+July C: Iloveoov, Savior, Bisu,
Forgot about savior and I was thinking of kespa, but did bisu top dat too? But anyway, u forgot nada for c.
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On August 10 2009 16:38 MrHoon wrote:Yeah I'm gonna do interviews because winning against amateurs don't deserve their own threads. Hell they don't deserve to be translated. But I've found something very interesting people might want to see (Mostly SKT/KTF fans) Flash Interview- You won both games with ease ▲ I want to say my win against amateurs are nothing for me to celebrate about. My goal is to pass RO16, RO8, semifinals and finals so I can represent Korea in WCG - Did you take a break after proleagues? ▲ Due to allstars and other events KTF sent me to, other than meeting some old friends I have not taken a proper break. I couldn't relax alot, but I am a progamer. And as a progamer, despite being worn out I'd be happier to have a league I could play in. - Alot of fans are saying "Fantasy is the #1 Terran" now, how do you feel about this? ▲ I don't read forums and other communities, but Fantasy Hyung is doing great right now, and as of now I would also agree that he should (if people do not admit still) be the #1 Terran. However I want to say I have GOMTV finals still so please don't be so harsh on me! - Your next opponent is either Effort or Sea.Really ▲ Effort is amazing at ZvT and to be honest, I really want a chance to play against effort and win. - GOMTV finals are here soon ▲ I will start practicing today and try my best at the finals (T/N: Before you guys chew on this answer, no he is no underestimating/being arrogant against, all his KTF Event things ended today, so NOW he has time to practice)- Last words ▲ Last time I got to WCG prelims, I lost against Much in a close game and I think this WCG will be a great chance for me. Also, I think this WCG will be a chance for me to get back to my old self so I can show everyone I will still be a contender for the other upcoming leagues. + Show Spoiler [Netizens!] +Netizenwow he admitted Fantasy is better NetizenAs a flash fan, I am thankful you don't read the forums. You would probably end your Progamer career if you did NetizenIf Flash wins gom and Fantasy drops off Semifinal OSL, what would happen? NetizenWe will have 2 top terrans then? NetizenAs a SKT fan I only support 2 Top terran between these 2 because they are friends and I like them both. Netizenfuck leta, fantasy/flash for lief Netizen win gomtv and win back #1 terran spot Flash! NetizenFor 2 years Flash you have held your spot as #1 terran while all other Terrans failed to do their part. I wish you can return to your former self and comeback as the flash I used to know and love NetizenJung Laden vs Cheesy Bitch. Gogo Cheesy Bitch! YOU ARE NUMBER 1 NetizenFlash hasn't been on TV for a looong time. If Flash starts getting some airtime again pretty sure it will shift toward Flash again. NetizenWhy can't we have "2 Best Terrans"? Do we seriously need it to be "#1 Terran"? Why can't we enjoy both players? NetizenSKT isn't in GOMTV, Iris sux and flash will sux NetizenIris beat Bisu. WHO CARES GO FLASH NetizenAs a Fantasy fan, I still think calling Fantasy #1 terran is not right. If Fantasy wins OSL, then yes, unarguably Fantasy is #1. But if Fantasy doesnt win OSL, then its still hard to say who... Flash placed 2nd in # of wins in Proleague. I don't understand why people keep forgetting this. He also has a 70% win chance in proleague. Fantasy on the other hand has around 50% win chance. Flash does get help from the coaching staff and his fellow companions. But compared the what Fantasy gets help from? Fantasy gets help from the greatest Staff right now, he has 2 living bonjwas in the team (who nurture him everyday) and I think it's unfair. Flash's nickname is "Child Labor Terran". He pulls his shittastic team up to 7th place all by himself. Yes Flash has dropped OSL and Fantasy got through OSL semifinals. But think of it this way; if Fantasy was in Flash's group and Flash was in Fantasy's group, how different would the story be? Netizenwel u no wut?? flah is borng so he can go die LOLOLOLOL Netizen^^^ and this is why Esports is dying. Because faggots like you exist. Netizenhaha ur gunna get 2:0'd by effort, and fantasy will 2:0 some other zerg to prove u still suck Netizenflash fighting
Flash and Fantasy said they were very much good friends long before they got onto A-team squads. They'd probably enjoying raping the scene together.
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51399 Posts
watching vods
kingdom reminds me of them kung fu guys in movies with a funny voice.
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Konadora, are you going to stream day 2? thank you
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
On August 11 2009 10:30 St0rmRush wrote: Konadora, are you going to stream day 2? thank you nope i'm at school lol
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 11 2009 10:40 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2009 10:30 St0rmRush wrote: Konadora, are you going to stream day 2? thank you nope i'm at school lol and so the summer of konadora came to an end
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On August 11 2009 06:18 GTR wrote: watching vods
kingdom reminds me of them kung fu guys in movies with a funny voice.
Jet Li? xD
LOL Flash even has time to micro his marines vs lurkers
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nice ez owns for the top pro's
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On August 11 2009 10:40 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2009 10:30 St0rmRush wrote: Konadora, are you going to stream day 2? thank you nope i'm at school lol ok ^^
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>< Crap sorry for the bump mis post
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