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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 08 2009 14:30 GMT
#2721
jaedong going 0-3 (including losing a zvz) is possibly one of the most improbable outcomes in SC i can think of

lomo should have just lost and spared jaedong this defeat lol
HEY MEYT
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 08 2009 14:30 GMT
#2722
What is an 'epic game'? Should players agree not to attack each other for a certain amount of time to mass up and get tech?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
August 08 2009 14:30 GMT
#2723
meh
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
August 08 2009 14:30 GMT
#2724
everytime a T cheese its a strategic play.
everytime a Z 5 pool or even 9 pool its a cheesy allin.

Funny boys...
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 08 2009 14:31 GMT
#2725
On August 08 2009 23:30 Zona wrote:
What is an 'epic game'? Should players agree not to attack each other for a certain amount of time to mass up and get tech?


maybe a longer game that goes back and forth, maybe like that bisu vs iris osl game?
HEY MEYT
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 08 2009 14:31 GMT
#2726
Oh, this is the first time in these playoffs that we didn't go to super ace.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 08 2009 14:32 GMT
#2727
I think ppl should stop complaining about "OMG I was robed by fantasy and I wanted to watch long and epic game". If JD 4pool'd I'm completely sure non of you would've felt robed. It sucks to lose to cheese, but every great player in this game was denied from important wins, because of cheesy play.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 08 2009 14:32 GMT
#2728
On August 08 2009 23:29 sArite_nite wrote:

Actually, the final was an epic game in itself. Look at the speed of Jaedong's reactions when his overlord was sniped by marines. Look at how the lings nearly got into the base. Look at Fantasy when he pulled his SCVs to block the lings and went further to SCV bunker rush him.

Fantasy felt pretty safe pulling a bunker rush. He still had Bisu to back him up on Super Ace and what I think this match was supposed to do was mindfuck Jaedong more than win.

Fantasy pulled off this win perfectly, but the intention was not to win. It was to weaken Jaedong mentality against Bisu. Had Fantasy lost this match, he would have been recorded as the key weapon in defeating Jaedong, by weakening Jaedong so badly Bisu made mincemeat out of him.

Instead, Fantasy won this.

Don't judge Fantasy as relying on the cheese to win. SKT's grand plan always has contingencies and the plan went: "Fantasy will bunker rush Jaedong. He will 1) win or 2) lose but weaken Jaedong enough to let Bisu win".


Why would winning a game weaken him at all? And sorry i don't think you are going to convince many people it was an epic game.
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
August 08 2009 14:32 GMT
#2729
I look forward to the interview, preferably the interview with Oz, hoping that Jaedong is not too stress out because of today's lost.
I, Challenge Everything
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2730
On August 08 2009 23:30 Weryeery wrote:
everytime a T cheese its a strategic play.
everytime a Z 5 pool or even 9 pool its a cheesy allin.

Funny boys...


It's the nature of the races. Zerg fails a 4pool, and it's almost always instant win for Terran. Terran fails a bunker rush, and... oh wait, there's a wall. Any lings the Zerg made for the bunker rush are now useless and the Terran is still in the game (although he might be at a disadvantage, it's not an instant loss).
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2731
On August 08 2009 23:31 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:30 Zona wrote:
What is an 'epic game'? Should players agree not to attack each other for a certain amount of time to mass up and get tech?


maybe a longer game that goes back and forth, maybe like that bisu vs iris osl game?

But you can't help it when one player is just so much weaker than the other.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2732
It makes me so mad when someone loses under 5 minutes
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2733
SKT 1 deserves Gold Medal. That's all.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2734
On August 08 2009 23:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
jaedong going 0-3 (including losing a zvz) is possibly one of the most improbable outcomes in SC i can think of

lomo should have just lost and spared jaedong this defeat lol


Not when Oz still had the chance of winning. Not when they have Jaedong, who is still a monster, a tyrant, an utterly good player despite his losses in the last few games.

I, an SKT fan, feel that Oz has done their best. Oz fans have reason to be proud of Oz. SKT fans have reason to be proud of SKT. Lets leave it at that.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2735
Epic Game : when highly-skilled players face each other and play at their peak performance simultaneously...

Lol I guess....
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 08 2009 14:33 GMT
#2736
good thing i lb'd skt ^_^
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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 08 2009 14:34 GMT
#2737
whoever said above that the players oz really plays too much are lomo, backho, and hiya, not jaedong, was right - hopefully these playoffs will be a sign to the team that there are these other players who are more than worthy of real development and screen time
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
August 08 2009 14:35 GMT
#2738
scout and you dont get cheesed, that is pretty simple eh?
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
August 08 2009 14:35 GMT
#2739
On August 08 2009 23:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:29 sArite_nite wrote:

Actually, the final was an epic game in itself. Look at the speed of Jaedong's reactions when his overlord was sniped by marines. Look at how the lings nearly got into the base. Look at Fantasy when he pulled his SCVs to block the lings and went further to SCV bunker rush him.

Fantasy felt pretty safe pulling a bunker rush. He still had Bisu to back him up on Super Ace and what I think this match was supposed to do was mindfuck Jaedong more than win.

Fantasy pulled off this win perfectly, but the intention was not to win. It was to weaken Jaedong mentality against Bisu. Had Fantasy lost this match, he would have been recorded as the key weapon in defeating Jaedong, by weakening Jaedong so badly Bisu made mincemeat out of him.

Instead, Fantasy won this.

Don't judge Fantasy as relying on the cheese to win. SKT's grand plan always has contingencies and the plan went: "Fantasy will bunker rush Jaedong. He will 1) win or 2) lose but weaken Jaedong enough to let Bisu win".


Why would winning a game weaken him at all? And sorry i don't think you are going to convince many people it was an epic game.

even though i dont think that a win would weaken him, i do feel that it was an EPIC game and i think that SKT1-fans all over the world will agree on some level
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 08 2009 14:36 GMT
#2740
On August 08 2009 23:33 sArite_nite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
jaedong going 0-3 (including losing a zvz) is possibly one of the most improbable outcomes in SC i can think of

lomo should have just lost and spared jaedong this defeat lol


Not when Oz still had the chance of winning. Not when they have Jaedong, who is still a monster, a tyrant, an utterly good player despite his losses in the last few games.

I, an SKT fan, feel that Oz has done their best. Oz fans have reason to be proud of Oz. SKT fans have reason to be proud of SKT. Lets leave it at that.


Well said, let SKT celebrate their victory, and lets hope JD isn't suffering from too much psych trauma.
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