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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 08 2009 14:16 GMT
#2661
On August 08 2009 23:14 tobi9999 wrote:
JD doesn't look as good anymore
Where is the JD who would defend cheese like a monster and absolutely destroy noobies with mutalisks.
It's gone, JD is begging for standard play now and too mad at cheese to be able to defend from it

Like, I hate progamers who cheese like over 1/2 of their games, and I hate that JD can't beat it.

Need to look for new favorite progamer, FlaSh!!!!! ... too bad he isn;t good


What the hell are you talking about. Everything you said was gibberish.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 08 2009 14:16 GMT
#2662
On August 08 2009 23:14 tobi9999 wrote:
JD doesn't look as good anymore
Where is the JD who would defend cheese like a monster and absolutely destroy noobies with mutalisks.
It's gone, JD is begging for standard play now and too mad at cheese to be able to defend from it

Like, I hate progamers who cheese like over 1/2 of their games, and I hate that JD can't beat it.

Need to look for new favorite progamer, FlaSh!!!!! ... too bad he isn;t good


You're a pathetic excuse for a JD fan, sorry.

On August 08 2009 23:14 jtan wrote:
Fantasy: "before ace match, i avoided being around boxer on purpose and pretended to discuss a lot with oov for the opponent not to suspect (this strategic play)."

omg this is brilliant lol



lol...

god it's so frustrating, fantasy gets so much help with brilliant strategies like this one while jaedong...
beep boop
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 08 2009 14:16 GMT
#2663
On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.

Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.

Indeed!!

Jaedong was also setting himself up to effectively "cheese" fantasy with his super fast mutas but hey, he got counter cheesed
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 08 2009 14:16 GMT
#2664
On August 08 2009 23:15 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.

Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.

stating the obvious bro


Is it so obvious yes? Because it seems like people are not getting it. 9 pool speed was the exact counter and he lost, and everyone cries "cheese, cheese"! So if this game and the reason he lost was obvious to you, you are at least C rank on iccup :[!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
August 08 2009 14:17 GMT
#2665
On August 08 2009 23:14 tobi9999 wrote:
JD doesn't look as good anymore
Where is the JD who would defend cheese like a monster and absolutely destroy noobies with mutalisks.
It's gone, JD is begging for standard play now and too mad at cheese to be able to defend from it

Like, I hate progamers who cheese like over 1/2 of their games, and I hate that JD can't beat it.

Need to look for new favorite progamer, FlaSh!!!!! ... too bad he isn;t good

pathetic.
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 08 2009 14:17 GMT
#2666
[image loading]

Friday will be your day to show that u can beat FanTaSy!
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 14:18:23
August 08 2009 14:17 GMT
#2667
On August 08 2009 23:12 Shuray wrote:
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...

uhm, he went 3-0 in the final, 2-0 vs jaedong and won ace
of course he must be mvp? lol
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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2668
On August 08 2009 23:16 Nylan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:14 o[twist] wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote:
I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail.


absurd


Why? Can't you like a guy that plays for a team that's up against yours?


is there any evidence that oz coach had a "one-dimensional strategy" lol especially after these playoffs

on the contrary i think oz tends to retain too much faith in players as they go downhill.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2669
On August 08 2009 23:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:15 lazz wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.

Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.

stating the obvious bro


Is it so obvious yes? Because it seems like people are not getting it. 9 pool speed was the exact counter and he lost, and everyone cries "cheese, cheese"! So if this game and the reason he lost was obvious to you, you are at least C rank on iccup :[!


plexa was right though, it was something like 9pool lair. If he'd had speed first it would have been much closer.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
snarl
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada812 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2670
On August 08 2009 23:17 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:12 Shuray wrote:
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...

uhm, he went 3-0 in the final, 2-0 vs jaedong and won ace
how can he not be mvp? lol


prolly sarcasm
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2671
On August 08 2009 23:17 GoSu wrote:
[image loading]

Friday will be your day to show that u can beat FanTaSy!

this pic sums it up ...

omg its such a great pic
T H C makes ppl happy
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2672
On August 08 2009 23:18 snarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:17 Carnac wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:12 Shuray wrote:
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...

uhm, he went 3-0 in the final, 2-0 vs jaedong and won ace
how can he not be mvp? lol


prolly sarcasm

or not knowing what mvp means^^
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 08 2009 14:18 GMT
#2673
On August 08 2009 23:18 snarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:17 Carnac wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:12 Shuray wrote:
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...

uhm, he went 3-0 in the final, 2-0 vs jaedong and won ace
how can he not be mvp? lol


prolly sarcasm

sounded more like butt hurt hate to me
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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2674
On August 08 2009 23:18 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:16 Nylan wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:14 o[twist] wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote:
I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail.


absurd


Why? Can't you like a guy that plays for a team that's up against yours?


is there any evidence that oz coach had a "one-dimensional strategy" lol especially after these playoffs

on the contrary i think oz tends to retain too much faith in players as they go downhill.


You haven't read many of his interviews, have you?
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2675
On August 08 2009 23:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:15 lazz wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.

Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.

stating the obvious bro


Is it so obvious yes? Because it seems like people are not getting it. 9 pool speed was the exact counter and he lost, and everyone cries "cheese, cheese"! So if this game and the reason he lost was obvious to you, you are at least C rank on iccup :[!

12pool speed is a better counter imo
and he didn't even go 9pool speed - it was 9pool lair, arguably the worst build he could have done against cheese
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2676
On August 08 2009 23:17 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:12 Shuray wrote:
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...

uhm, he went 3-0 in the final, 2-0 vs jaedong and won ace
of course he must be mvp? lol


yeah, kinda a question you don't have to ask... XD
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2677
On August 08 2009 23:18 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:15 lazz wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.

Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.

stating the obvious bro


Is it so obvious yes? Because it seems like people are not getting it. 9 pool speed was the exact counter and he lost, and everyone cries "cheese, cheese"! So if this game and the reason he lost was obvious to you, you are at least C rank on iccup :[!


plexa was right though, it was something like 9pool lair. If he'd had speed first it would have been much closer.


Ye, my bad.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2678
Fantasy's play was heavily strategic, and far from cheesy.

This wasn't just a canned build that rolls the dice and hopes your opponent plays greedy, it was a superb deception that was obviously prepared specifically for this match, most likely by Boxer himself.

For all intents and purposes, Fantasy faked a fast expo with a wall off perfectly, and Jaedong fell right into his trap. The marines from the hidden rax took Jaedong by complete surprise.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2679
didnt JD go for his lair before speed?
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 08 2009 14:19 GMT
#2680
At least the second day didn't turn out to be as much of a rape as the first day was. We actually got to see a decent final day with some excitement.

Thanks to everyone who streamed and translated! I'm out
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