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On August 08 2009 23:11 EvoChamber wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:08 Alsar wrote: I love how every time a lesser liked player cheeses a well known player in any tournament/league etc to eliminate them, everyone whines and bitches about it and hates the player who cheesed, but then all of a sudden when fantasy or boxer or anyone who has a huge bandwagon following does it, it's magically all of a sudden okay to do. It's kind of a double standard; we can't do anything about it. But you have to remember that fans knew fantasy and boxer could play straight up if they wanted to, so their cheeses don't smack of desperation, but ingenuity. Lesser players cheese because they know they have little to no chance of winning straight up, but when top-tier players do it there's a different motivation. We lost, get over it, we'll be back. No doubt about it.  wow great post there mang. oh and you are from france as well, <3
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On August 08 2009 23:10 Murdoink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:05 sArite_nite wrote: In a grand display of how much Boxer has influenced SKT1, Fantasy has re-enacted the Bunker Rush in both his games. Jaedong is destined to play the role of Yellow, always to end up one away from victory.
Boxer smiles as he recalls his victories over Yellow. Heartbreaking, but the stuff of legends of his youth. Coach Choi smiles as his words come true: SKT1 will lead Esports into a new era, as Starcraft 2 pokes its immature head onto the horizon. Fantasy smiles as he sees his mentors' happiness, the one who taught him the winning strategy; the other who showed him how to use valkyries. Canata smiles; Backho's cheese goes unpunished. Hyuk smiles; he finally showed the world what he's made of. Bisu is disgruntled; Fantasy stole his glory. Bunkie smiles, he always does.
Elsewhere, Jaedong apologises to his team for being a letdown. For not pulling an Effort v Khan clutch. For losing to Hyuk. Jaedong apologises to Backho. To Killer. To Lomo. Somewhere, Oz weeps together, and none weeping the harder than Jaedong, knowing that they were just < > this close to winning SKT1.
Somewhere, Konadora is jumping in joy as he reads the results to SKT1 v Oz. great post
lol are you serious? yeah great post. Cause it's so true, JD always only gets silver, while fantasy keeps getting gold medals, just like Yellow and Boxer huh... people are so funny sometimes
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Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.
Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not.
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On August 08 2009 23:11 foeffa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:07 On_Slaught wrote: Jaedong needs to take all the hatred and anger he feels now and direct it towards Fantasy in the OSL.
Anyone who doesn't go and vote for JD in the OSL semis over Fantasy is a fool after seeing this. Having sniper builds doesn't work in a bo5. Are you new or something? Talking about underestimating Fantasy. -___-
Until he does something in an individual league and someone shows they can beat Jaedong in a bo5, then the only reasonable vote of confidence is in Jaedongs favor. Not ot mention tonight should give JD so much fuel for the fire...
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On August 08 2009 23:13 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:11 foeffa wrote:On August 08 2009 23:07 On_Slaught wrote: Jaedong needs to take all the hatred and anger he feels now and direct it towards Fantasy in the OSL.
Anyone who doesn't go and vote for JD in the OSL semis over Fantasy is a fool after seeing this. Having sniper builds doesn't work in a bo5. Are you new or something? Talking about underestimating Fantasy. -___- Until he does something in an individual league and someone shows they can beat Jaedong in a bo5, then the only reasonable vote of confidence is in Jaedongs favor. Not ot mention tonight should give JD so much fuel for the fire...
Fantasy is the best series player on SKT1
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I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail.
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Fantasy: "before ace match, i avoided being around boxer on purpose and pretended to discuss a lot with oov for the opponent not to suspect (this strategic play)."
omg this is brilliant lol
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On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote: I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail.
absurd
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On August 08 2009 23:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.  E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches. Oh, I understand why everyone is disappointed, but hating a player for doing what he needed to do to win for his team is a terrible reason to hate someone.
True.
I will turn my hatred towards the race then. :p
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JD doesn't look as good anymore  Where is the JD who would defend cheese like a monster and absolutely destroy noobies with mutalisks. It's gone, JD is begging for standard play now and too mad at cheese to be able to defend from it
Like, I hate progamers who cheese like over 1/2 of their games, and I hate that JD can't beat it.
Need to look for new favorite progamer, FlaSh!!!!! ... too bad he isn;t good
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YAY SKT1 !
I hope these matches motivate JD and FanTasy when they meet in OSL again.
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On August 08 2009 23:13 G.s)NarutO wrote: Its funny how you guys are talking about FantaSy cheeses. Its not a cheese that won him the game, it was a really good decision in that map. Jaedong went 9 pool speed which is not really clever given that you call wall off lingtight on medusa but what really costs him the game was losing the overlord and that fantasy didnt show his marines he made from the 8 rax.
Had he shown the Marines from the first barracks Jaedong would have known there are 2 rax and he could have reduced the marine count but when he knew it, he already lost an overlord and it was too late. So please dont say it was a simple cheese, because it was not. stating the obvious bro
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preety disapointed how ace game turned out anyway lomo and backho entertained me with their games
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On August 08 2009 23:14 tobi9999 wrote:JD doesn't look as good anymore  Where is the JD who would defend cheese like a monster and absolutely destroy noobies with mutalisks. It's gone, JD is begging for standard play now  and too mad at cheese to be able to defend from it Like, I hate progamers who cheese like over 1/2 of their games, and I hate that JD can't beat it. Need to look for new favorite progamer, FlaSh!!!!! ... too bad he isn;t good true fan right there...
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On August 08 2009 23:14 jtan wrote: Fantasy: "before ace match, i avoided being around boxer on purpose and pretended to discuss a lot with oov for the opponent not to suspect (this strategic play)."
omg this is brilliant lol oh damn xD it really is !
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Thanks to ghostwriter for translating on the stream - I appreciated it.
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On August 08 2009 23:13 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:11 foeffa wrote:On August 08 2009 23:07 On_Slaught wrote: Jaedong needs to take all the hatred and anger he feels now and direct it towards Fantasy in the OSL.
Anyone who doesn't go and vote for JD in the OSL semis over Fantasy is a fool after seeing this. Having sniper builds doesn't work in a bo5. Are you new or something? Talking about underestimating Fantasy. -___- Until he does something in an individual league and someone shows they can beat Jaedong in a bo5, then the only reasonable vote of confidence is in Jaedongs favor. Not ot mention tonight should give JD so much fuel for the fire...
I don't think Jaedong's morale might be up to doing well against Fantasy in OSL. Not after letting his team down in this fashion (0-3 in his finals matches).
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On August 08 2009 23:13 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.  E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches. Oh, I understand why everyone is disappointed, but hating a player for doing what he needed to do to win for his team is a terrible reason to hate someone. That about sums it up.
but it does rob us of extra mile of entertainment.
jung laden robs us of bisu vs jd match once again
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On August 08 2009 23:14 LimitlessSky wrote: YAY SKT1 !
I hope these matches motivate JD and FanTasy when they meet in OSL again.
That's going to be one hell of a series
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On August 08 2009 23:14 o[twist] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote: I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail. absurd
Why? Can't you like a guy that plays for a team that's up against yours?
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