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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#2621
On August 08 2009 23:09 Zona wrote:
Wow, coach cho directing the 2nd place prize to Jaedong. Wonder if it'll help or hurt his mindset.


Jaedong is the captai I guess and he leads Hwaseung until the final.
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#2622
Fantasy is the master of sniping people in single matches. That hasn't, nor will it, help him in a bo5.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#2623
self-loathing all over jaedong's face. i can't watch much more. i hope he can get past this moment.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
August 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#2624
On August 08 2009 23:05 sArite_nite wrote:
In a grand display of how much Boxer has influenced SKT1, Fantasy has re-enacted the Bunker Rush in both his games. Jaedong is destined to play the role of Yellow, always to end up one away from victory.

Boxer smiles as he recalls his victories over Yellow. Heartbreaking, but the stuff of legends of his youth.
Coach Choi smiles as his words come true: SKT1 will lead Esports into a new era, as Starcraft 2 pokes its immature head onto the horizon.
Fantasy smiles as he sees his mentors' happiness, the one who taught him the winning strategy; the other who showed him how to use valkyries.
Canata smiles; Backho's cheese goes unpunished.
Hyuk smiles; he finally showed the world what he's made of.
Bisu is disgruntled; Fantasy stole his glory.
Bunkie smiles, he always does.

Elsewhere, Jaedong apologises to his team for being a letdown. For not pulling an Effort v Khan clutch. For losing to Hyuk. Jaedong apologises to Backho. To Killer. To Lomo. Somewhere, Oz weeps together, and none weeping the harder than Jaedong, knowing that they were just < > this close to winning SKT1.

Somewhere, Konadora is jumping in joy as he reads the results to SKT1 v Oz.

great post
SNARF HWAITING
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 14:11:38
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2625
prizes are money ? How much 1st and 2nd?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 14:12:26
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2626
Right now it's like I just watched Boxer reincarnated, as a Boxer fan this is awesome

PS some of you need to read Playing to Win, this was a really smart move by SKT
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 14:13:18
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2627
On August 08 2009 23:07 On_Slaught wrote:
Jaedong needs to take all the hatred and anger he feels now and direct it towards Fantasy in the OSL.

Anyone who doesn't go and vote for JD in the OSL semis over Fantasy is a fool after seeing this. Having sniper builds doesn't work in a bo5.



Are you new or something? I'm no SKT1 fanboy or a Fantasy fanboy but talking about underestimating Fantasy... -___- JD is a monster in BOx series but Fantasy is nowhere close to an assured victory, he has shown his skill and aptness at this game many times before.
觀過斯知仁矣.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2628
On August 08 2009 23:08 Alsar wrote:
I love how every time a lesser liked player cheeses a well known player in any tournament/league etc to eliminate them, everyone whines and bitches about it and hates the player who cheesed, but then all of a sudden when fantasy or boxer or anyone who has a huge bandwagon following does it, it's magically all of a sudden okay to do.


It's kind of a double standard; we can't do anything about it. But you have to remember that fans knew fantasy and boxer could play straight up if they wanted to, so their cheeses don't smack of desperation, but ingenuity. Lesser players cheese because they know they have little to no chance of winning straight up, but when top-tier players do it there's a different motivation.

We lost, get over it, we'll be back. No doubt about it.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Kot
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia148 Posts
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2629
On August 08 2009 23:10 Murdoink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:05 sArite_nite wrote:
In a grand display of how much Boxer has influenced SKT1, Fantasy has re-enacted the Bunker Rush in both his games. Jaedong is destined to play the role of Yellow, always to end up one away from victory.

Boxer smiles as he recalls his victories over Yellow. Heartbreaking, but the stuff of legends of his youth.
Coach Choi smiles as his words come true: SKT1 will lead Esports into a new era, as Starcraft 2 pokes its immature head onto the horizon.
Fantasy smiles as he sees his mentors' happiness, the one who taught him the winning strategy; the other who showed him how to use valkyries.
Canata smiles; Backho's cheese goes unpunished.
Hyuk smiles; he finally showed the world what he's made of.
Bisu is disgruntled; Fantasy stole his glory.
Bunkie smiles, he always does.

Elsewhere, Jaedong apologises to his team for being a letdown. For not pulling an Effort v Khan clutch. For losing to Hyuk. Jaedong apologises to Backho. To Killer. To Lomo. Somewhere, Oz weeps together, and none weeping the harder than Jaedong, knowing that they were just < > this close to winning SKT1.

Somewhere, Konadora is jumping in joy as he reads the results to SKT1 v Oz.

great post


its only great if you forget about the titles jaedongs won and the last osl
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 08 2009 14:11 GMT
#2630
On August 08 2009 23:09 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.


E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches.

its their job, they play to win.
fans are always 2nd, would you risk losing just for the epicness of the game?none would, people complaining simply dont understand pro SC, as Bob said.


People complain about the format being too individual favored, then complain when the players play to win. It's not a JD v Fantasy victory, its a victory for SKT1. Would you go for entertainment when your team has worked hard to put you in the ace match? No, and if you did you're a moron.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2631
A well deserved win for SKT, and it's good that Fantasy finally won on the big stage after two silver medals.

Either Jaedong will start his descent into a depressing slump, or turn this around and go absolutely ripship insane and demolish everyone that stands in his path.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2632
On August 08 2009 23:09 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.


E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches.

its their job, they play to win.
fans are always 2nd, would you risk losing just for the epicness of the game?none would, people complaining simply dont understand pro SC, as Teletubby said.


what is all this crap about not understanding pro SC lol. everyone understands it, just disappointed there was not a more interesting game
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2633
On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.


E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches.


Oh, I understand why everyone is disappointed, but hating a player for doing what he needed to do to win for his team is a terrible reason to hate someone.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2634
Poor Jaedong. Good thing for OZ are their future good players - Killer and Perfectman.
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2635
I hope it will be FanTaSy OSL's year!
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2636
On August 08 2009 23:07 On_Slaught wrote:
Jaedong needs to take all the hatred and anger he feels now and direct it towards Fantasy in the OSL.

Anyone who doesn't go and vote for JD in the OSL semis over Fantasy is a fool after seeing this. Having sniper builds doesn't work in a bo5.


I'd still say Fantasy. Did you see his performance on Day 1 against Jaedong? Absolutely brilliant play.
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2637
from fantasy's interview
"before ace match, i avoided being around boxer on purpose and pretended to discuss a lot with oov for the opponent not to suspect (this strategic play)."
it's amazing. :D
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2638
On August 08 2009 23:08 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:02 kNyTTyM wrote:
ugg why is everyone complaining about the build? Fantasy did the exact same thing yesterday so JD should have been on the look out for it again.

Who would expect someone to cheese on the most important match of an entire year's worth of Starcraft games?

I am not surprised personally, but most players would not expect to be cheesed on something this important.

It's definitely something only Boxer (or his student, in this case Fantasy) would do.


The most important match in an entire year's worth of Starcraft games is exactly where you should expect cheese.

Precisely. Especially when SK T1 had 2 chances and Oz only had 1, that was the best time to use a strategic play.
On August 08 2009 23:09 aers wrote:
backho cheesed too. whatever.

This as well.

If "cheese" was so great, it'd be the norm, not FE like it is today. The strongest strategy becomes the predominant one, and others are there to counter the prevalent strategy.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
August 08 2009 14:12 GMT
#2639
WTF? Fantasy MVP!?!?!?

they got to be kidding...
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 08 2009 14:13 GMT
#2640
On August 08 2009 23:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2009 23:07 Highways wrote:
On August 08 2009 23:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Ugh - All the people hating Fantasy for what he did clearly don't understand professional Starcraft.


E-Sports is about entertainment. Giving fans epic matches.


Oh, I understand why everyone is disappointed, but hating a player for doing what he needed to do to win for his team is a terrible reason to hate someone.


That about sums it up.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
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