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[SPL] Playoffs - CJ Entus vs Samsung Khan Day 1 - Page 3

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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 22 2009 15:45 GMT
#41
On July 22 2009 23:26 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 22:08 GTR wrote:
If CJ lose this day I'll eat my underwear.


You Remind me of the guy who promised to suck a row of cocks if Jaedong lost to Frozean.


ahahaha I remember that

anyway 4 TvZs, and 2 PvPs if we make it there. how nice. I think 4-3 CJ, with kwanro somehow losing, Khan winning both PvPs, and EFFORT > FBH AGAIN in ace.
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
July 22 2009 16:31 GMT
#42
Are the maps in the lineup correct? Outsider for all three ace matches? That seems pretty dumb. Especially considering Juni is KHAN's Outsider player, and CJ has both EffOrt and Kwanro that play well on it. Basically, one of KHAN's top players will have to spend almost half their time working on Outsider, otherwise CJ wins every ace match. I just don't see anyone not in the lineup for KHAN sniping on that map.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
July 22 2009 16:35 GMT
#43
(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
EffOrt <Outsider> JangBi
Free Palestine
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 22 2009 16:40 GMT
#44
On July 23 2009 01:31 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Are the maps in the lineup correct? Outsider for all three ace matches? That seems pretty dumb. Especially considering Juni is KHAN's Outsider player, and CJ has both EffOrt and Kwanro that play well on it. Basically, one of KHAN's top players will have to spend almost half their time working on Outsider, otherwise CJ wins every ace match. I just don't see anyone not in the lineup for KHAN sniping on that map.


lol no...
Stork is Khan's Shades/Andro/Outsider player. And for ace Stork/Great will come out on outsider.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
July 22 2009 16:43 GMT
#45
i think KHAN got this.
Bisu... ;-(
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 22 2009 16:48 GMT
#46
(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
Closer <Outsider> Closer
CJ Entus < 0 - 4 > Samsung KHAN

... hey, it COULD happen =D
orcsmash
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-22 17:17:11
July 22 2009 17:11 GMT
#47
Looks like 4-0 CJ so Khan will probably win.
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 22 2009 17:12 GMT
#48
Not gonna lie, it looks grim for Khan... But Miracles can happen! I don't see Odin, great, or FBH winning tbh :\. Especially if skyhigh goes mech. Great's play vs mech is fucking atrocious.
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 22 2009 17:28 GMT
#49
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You posted this first... I had all ready with images and stuff...T_T
Can chances have droped 10% now they have 90% chances of winning T_T

Lets Go KHAN!
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 22 2009 17:34 GMT
#50
odin's zvt is 19% @_@
i was hoping for khan to advance =/
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6185 Posts
July 22 2009 18:06 GMT
#51
On July 23 2009 01:35 Ideas wrote:
(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
EffOrt <Outsider> JangBi

Really like this. but I would put SkyHigh over great and Odin over Iris
n_n
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 22 2009 18:08 GMT
#52
For those to lazy to look it up, here are the stats (I'll round to the nearest percent):

Iris vs Odin
Iris TvZ: 58-44 (57%) lifetime, 7-3 in last 10, 3-4 on Andromeda (0-2 vs Z)
Head-to-Head: Iris (2-1) Odin
Odin ZvT: 4-21 (19%) lifetime, 1-9 in last 10, 3-4 on Andromeda, (1-2 vs T)

Statistically, Iris is a heavy favorite to win this match.

SkyHigh vs great
SkyHigh TvZ: 15-11 (58%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 13-6 on Destination (4-2 vs Z)
Head-to-Head: SkyHigh (1-0) great
great ZvT: 7-6 (54%) lifetime, 5-5 in last 10, 4-3 on Destination (1-0 vs T)

SkyHigh is the statistical favorite here, but it's not a guarantee.

Effort vs FBH
Effort ZvT: 24-13 (65%) lifetime, 8-2 in last 10, 1-2 on Neo Harmony (0-0 vs T)
Head-to-Head: Effort (1-0) FBH
FBH TvZ: 30-22 (58%) lifetime, 3-7 in last 10, 1-3 on Neo Harmon (0-2 vs Z)

Again, CJ player is the favorite. Effort is a heavy favorite to win this, but it will be interesting to see if the FBH/CJ history will play a role in deciding this game. If a heavy favorite falls, my prediction is that it will be Effort.

Kwanro vs Miracle
Kwanro ZvT: 22-16 (58%) lifetime, 6-4 in last 10, 3-1 on Neo Medusa (0-0 vs T), 1-1 on Medusa (0-0 vs T)
Head-to-Head: Kwanro (0-0) Miracle
Miracle TvZ: 3-3 (50%) lifetime, 3-3 in last 6, 0-0 on Neo Medusa, 0-1 on Medusa (0-0 vs Z)

Miracle is a player who has mostly been in the minor leagues. His stats indicate that he's a TvZ specialist and while overall he is far below the competition, his TvZ stats are not that bad. His major league career can be summarized as: 1-0 vs Luxury, 1-2 vs hyvaa, 0-1 vs Calm, 1-0 vs Shine[kal].

Kwanro is the obvious favorite, but don't count Miracle out entirely. If he's very lucky, he could pull an upset.

Movie vs Jangbi
Movie PvP: 4-7 (36%) lifetime, 3-7 in last 10, 1-1 on Heartbreak Ridge (0-0 vs P)
Head-to-Head: Movie (0-0) Jangbi
Jangbi PvP: 33-31 (52%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 1-2 on Heartbreak Ridge (0-1 vs P)

Statistically, Jangbi is the heavy favorite here. Though his stats lately have been pretty bad, Jangbi is still the 6th ranked PvP player by ELO with an ELO of 2088. Movie's PvP ELO is well under 2000.

Much vs Stork
Much PvP: 32-31 (51%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 2-0 on Shades of Twilight (1-0 vs P)
Head-to-Head: Much (2-4) Stork
Stork PvP: 78-53 (60%) lifetime, 5-5 in last 10, 3-2 on Shades of Twilight (2-1 vs P)

Again, Stork is a heavy favorite to win here. It should be noted that Stork is 4-1 in his last 5 PvP while Much is 2-3 in his last 5 PvP. However, this is not a match beyond the range of upsets.

Ace Match
CJ's best A-team players on Outsider:
Effort 7-3
Kwanro 7-3
NBS 2-0
Khan's best A-team players on Outsider:
Stork 4-1
Frozean 3-2

Stork is Khan's best pick. Effort is CJ's best pick.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 22 2009 18:08 GMT
#53
stupid lineups
gl khan
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
July 22 2009 18:08 GMT
#54
Either 4-0 or 4-2 for CJ, or 4-3 for KHAN. CJ is fucked if this goes to ace, but that's basically the only way they're losing.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
July 22 2009 18:11 GMT
#55
CJ's best chance at this match is to 4-0 it. If even one of CJ's first 4 loses, then they could be in a world of pain. Movie's PvP isn't up to Jangbi's standards, and Much isn't up to Stork. Khan's best chance is for Great to "steal" one from SkyHigh.

Fortunately, due to CJ having several Ace-match players, CJ will have the advantage in the Ace match. Khan basically has to choose between Stork and Jangbi; both Protoss players. CJ can pick Effort, SkyHigh or even Kwanro. And they'll all know they're going up against Protoss.

So CJ's got this.
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
July 22 2009 18:13 GMT
#56
Khan shall win this.
dl2agon
Profile Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
July 22 2009 18:19 GMT
#57
GO EFFORT!!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
July 22 2009 18:34 GMT
#58
psh no faith in Khan is kinda funny, i wouldn't be surprised if khan won before ace match
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
July 22 2009 18:48 GMT
#59
I have faith in my team.

Khan 4 - 3 CJ.

Jangbi stork should be easy win. Even in their slump, their better than movie much, unless they cheese. FBH beating effort is tough and odin's terrible vt makes it hard for him to beat iris. Miracle kwanro game could go either way. But its crucial for great to take his game. I think khan could take it in ace. Go khan.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 22 2009 18:54 GMT
#60
On July 23 2009 02:28 FranzF1 wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You posted this first... I had all ready with images and stuff...T_T
Can chances have droped 10% now they have 90% chances of winning T_T

Lets Go KHAN!

Just PM him the format and have the "Format thanks to FranzF1" at the top.
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