ahahaha I remember that

anyway 4 TvZs, and 2 PvPs if we make it there. how nice. I think 4-3 CJ, with kwanro somehow losing, Khan winning both PvPs, and EFFORT > FBH AGAIN in ace.

LonelyMargarita

1845 Posts

July 22 2009 16:31 GMT

#42

Are the maps in the lineup correct? Outsider for all three ace matches? That seems pretty dumb. Especially considering Juni is KHAN's Outsider player, and CJ has both EffOrt and Kwanro that play well on it. Basically, one of KHAN's top players will have to spend almost half their time working on Outsider, otherwise CJ wins every ace match. I just don't see anyone not in the lineup for KHAN sniping on that map.

Ideas

United States8170 Posts

July 22 2009 16:35 GMT

#43

(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
EffOrt <Outsider> JangBi

samachking

Bahrain4949 Posts

July 22 2009 16:40 GMT

#44

On July 23 2009 01:31 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Are the maps in the lineup correct? Outsider for all three ace matches? That seems pretty dumb. Especially considering Juni is KHAN's Outsider player, and CJ has both EffOrt and Kwanro that play well on it. Basically, one of KHAN's top players will have to spend almost half their time working on Outsider, otherwise CJ wins every ace match. I just don't see anyone not in the lineup for KHAN sniping on that map.

lol no...
Stork is Khan's Shades/Andro/Outsider player. And for ace Stork/Great will come out on outsider.

SkytoM

Austria1137 Posts

July 22 2009 16:43 GMT

#45

i think KHAN got this.

B1nary

Canada1267 Posts

July 22 2009 16:48 GMT

#46

Iris <Andromeda> oDin
(T)

sKyHigh <Destination> great
(Z)

EffOrt <Neo Harmony> firebathero
(Z)

Kwanro <Neo Medusa> Miracle
~~Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> JangBi~~
~~Much <Shades of Twilight> Stork~~
~~Closer <Outsider> Closer~~
CJ Entus < 0 - 4 > Samsung KHAN

... hey, it COULD happen =D

orcsmash

Canada319 Posts

July 22 2009 17:11 GMT

#47

Looks like 4-0 CJ so Khan will probably win.

BisuBoi

United States350 Posts

July 22 2009 17:12 GMT

#48

Not gonna lie, it looks grim for Khan... But Miracles can happen! I don't see Odin, great, or FBH winning tbh :\. Especially if skyhigh goes mech. Great's play vs mech is fucking atrocious.

FranzF1

Chile1710 Posts

July 22 2009 17:28 GMT

#49

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You posted this first... I had all ready with images and stuff...T_T
Can chances have droped 10% now they have 90% chances of winning T_T

Lets Go KHAN!

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

July 22 2009 17:34 GMT

#50

odin's zvt is 19% @_@
i was hoping for khan to advance =/

FaCE_1

Canada6184 Posts

July 22 2009 18:06 GMT

#51

On July 23 2009 01:35 Ideas wrote:
(T)Iris <Andromeda> (Z)oDin
(T)sKyHigh <Destination> (Z)great
(Z)EffOrt <Neo Harmony> (T)firebathero
(Z)Kwanro <Neo Medusa> (T)Miracle
(P)Movie <Heartbreak Ridge> (P)JangBi
(P)Much <Shades of Twilight> (P)Stork
EffOrt <Outsider> JangBi

Really like this. but I would put SkyHigh over great and Odin over Iris

Mortality

United States4790 Posts

July 22 2009 18:08 GMT

#52

For those to lazy to look it up, here are the stats (I'll round to the nearest percent):

Iris vs Odin
Iris TvZ: 58-44 (57%) lifetime, 7-3 in last 10, 3-4 on Andromeda (0-2 vs Z)
Head-to-Head: Iris (2-1) Odin
Odin ZvT: 4-21 (19%) lifetime, 1-9 in last 10, 3-4 on Andromeda, (1-2 vs T)

Statistically, Iris is a heavy favorite to win this match.

SkyHigh vs great
SkyHigh TvZ: 15-11 (58%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 13-6 on Destination (4-2 vs Z)
Head-to-Head: SkyHigh (1-0) great
great ZvT: 7-6 (54%) lifetime, 5-5 in last 10, 4-3 on Destination (1-0 vs T)

SkyHigh is the statistical favorite here, but it's not a guarantee.

Effort vs FBH
Effort ZvT: 24-13 (65%) lifetime, 8-2 in last 10, 1-2 on Neo Harmony (0-0 vs T)
Head-to-Head: Effort (1-0) FBH
FBH TvZ: 30-22 (58%) lifetime, 3-7 in last 10, 1-3 on Neo Harmon (0-2 vs Z)

Again, CJ player is the favorite. Effort is a heavy favorite to win this, but it will be interesting to see if the FBH/CJ history will play a role in deciding this game. If a heavy favorite falls, my prediction is that it will be Effort.

Kwanro vs Miracle
Kwanro ZvT: 22-16 (58%) lifetime, 6-4 in last 10, 3-1 on Neo Medusa (0-0 vs T), 1-1 on Medusa (0-0 vs T)
Head-to-Head: Kwanro (0-0) Miracle
Miracle TvZ: 3-3 (50%) lifetime, 3-3 in last 6, 0-0 on Neo Medusa, 0-1 on Medusa (0-0 vs Z)

Miracle is a player who has mostly been in the minor leagues. His stats indicate that he's a TvZ specialist and while overall he is far below the competition, his TvZ stats are not that bad. His major league career can be summarized as: 1-0 vs Luxury, 1-2 vs hyvaa, 0-1 vs Calm, 1-0 vs Shine[kal].

Kwanro is the obvious favorite, but don't count Miracle out entirely. If he's very lucky, he could pull an upset.

Movie vs Jangbi
Movie PvP: 4-7 (36%) lifetime, 3-7 in last 10, 1-1 on Heartbreak Ridge (0-0 vs P)
Head-to-Head: Movie (0-0) Jangbi
Jangbi PvP: 33-31 (52%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 1-2 on Heartbreak Ridge (0-1 vs P)

Statistically, Jangbi is the heavy favorite here. Though his stats lately have been pretty bad, Jangbi is still the 6th ranked PvP player by ELO with an ELO of 2088. Movie's PvP ELO is well under 2000.

Much vs Stork
Much PvP: 32-31 (51%) lifetime, 4-6 in last 10, 2-0 on Shades of Twilight (1-0 vs P)
Head-to-Head: Much (2-4) Stork
Stork PvP: 78-53 (60%) lifetime, 5-5 in last 10, 3-2 on Shades of Twilight (2-1 vs P)

Again, Stork is a heavy favorite to win here. It should be noted that Stork is 4-1 in his last 5 PvP while Much is 2-3 in his last 5 PvP. However, this is not a match beyond the range of upsets.

Ace Match
CJ's best A-team players on Outsider:
Effort 7-3
Kwanro 7-3
NBS 2-0
Khan's best A-team players on Outsider:
Stork 4-1
Frozean 3-2

Stork is Khan's best pick. Effort is CJ's best pick.

hyst.eric.al

United States2332 Posts

July 22 2009 18:08 GMT

#53

stupid lineups
gl khan

CaptainPlatypus

United States852 Posts

July 22 2009 18:08 GMT

#54

Either 4-0 or 4-2 for CJ, or 4-3 for KHAN. CJ is fucked if this goes to ace, but that's basically the only way they're losing.

NicolBolas

United States1388 Posts

July 22 2009 18:11 GMT

#55

CJ's best chance at this match is to 4-0 it. If even one of CJ's first 4 loses, then they could be in a world of pain. Movie's PvP isn't up to Jangbi's standards, and Much isn't up to Stork. Khan's best chance is for Great to "steal" one from SkyHigh.

Fortunately, due to CJ having several Ace-match players, CJ will have the advantage in the Ace match. Khan basically has to choose between Stork and Jangbi; both Protoss players. CJ can pick Effort, SkyHigh or even Kwanro. And they'll all know they're going up against Protoss.

So CJ's got this.

saikeraku

Canada2933 Posts

July 22 2009 18:13 GMT

#56

Khan shall win this.

dl2agon

United States473 Posts

July 22 2009 18:19 GMT

#57

GO EFFORT!!

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

July 22 2009 18:34 GMT

#58

psh no faith in Khan is kinda funny, i wouldn't be surprised if khan won before ace match

MuffinDude

United States3837 Posts

July 22 2009 18:48 GMT

#59

I have faith in my team.

Khan 4 - 3 CJ.

Jangbi stork should be easy win. Even in their slump, their better than movie much, unless they cheese. FBH beating effort is tough and odin's terrible vt makes it hard for him to beat iris. Miracle kwanro game could go either way. But its crucial for great to take his game. I think khan could take it in ace. Go khan.

TwoStep

United States294 Posts

July 22 2009 18:54 GMT

#60

On July 23 2009 02:28 FranzF1 wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You posted this first... I had all ready with images and stuff...T_T
Can chances have droped 10% now they have 90% chances of winning T_T

Lets Go KHAN!

Just PM him the format and have the "Format thanks to FranzF1" at the top.