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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 12 2009 18:33 GMT
#521
On July 13 2009 03:21 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Yeah waking up I see it wasnt all just a dream. To think I'll have to watch effort at Blizzcon instead of Jaedong makes me a sad, sady panda indeed.

He doesnt speak english and never smiles... I dont think any of the koreans going to Blizzcon do.

T_T T_T


I'm pretty sure many of them know basic english.

"I'm going to destroy everyone"
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 12 2009 18:34 GMT
#522
at least JD can focus on whats more important
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 12 2009 19:34 GMT
#523
oh god this thread is a mess
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
July 12 2009 19:39 GMT
#524
I often disagree with these arguments that jaedong has to practice for too many leagues so that he couldn't prepare enough for this match etc. etc.
the maps in GOM are not different from the other leagues and he DID practice a lot of zvz in the past because he had 2 zergs in his OSL group
only because he practiced 2 days vs p because of his match vs kal doesn't mean that he is totally out of practice in zvz... he even had 1 day time to "get back into zvz"

i do agree with people saying he is tired and stuff but not that he is our of practice
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
July 12 2009 19:41 GMT
#525
On July 13 2009 03:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Oh god, Jaedong on a 3 game ZvZ losing streak and is now below 80% in the match up. Ouch.


too bad gom nobody cares for, including yours truly, kespa
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
July 12 2009 20:13 GMT
#526
On July 13 2009 04:39 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
I often disagree with these arguments that jaedong has to practice for too many leagues so that he couldn't prepare enough for this match etc. etc.
the maps in GOM are not different from the other leagues and he DID practice a lot of zvz in the past because he had 2 zergs in his OSL group
only because he practiced 2 days vs p because of his match vs kal doesn't mean that he is totally out of practice in zvz... he even had 1 day time to "get back into zvz"

i do agree with people saying he is tired and stuff but not that he is our of practice

It isn't just about practicing a matchup, it's also about devising a strategy that works against a given player. E.g. just practicing basic vT won't prepare you equally well against radically different players such as Flash and Boxer. You need to analyze the weaknesses of your opponent and create a suitable strategy that you practice.
Considering JD until today was in three individual leagues, as well as having pressure on him to do well and prepare for PL, it's no surprise he would be exhausted without proper preparation. Combine that with GOM being the least prestigious of the leagues and Effort being the second best zerg in the world, the result isn't surprising.
1000 at least.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
July 12 2009 20:24 GMT
#527
I knew JD isn't good enough to handle such workload. Every person has his limits, being it Flash, Bisu or Jaedong...
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
July 12 2009 20:29 GMT
#528
wow jaedong T_T
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
July 12 2009 20:31 GMT
#529
On July 13 2009 05:13 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 04:39 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
...

It isn't just about practicing a matchup, it's also about devising a strategy that works against a given player. E.g. just practicing basic vT won't prepare you equally well against radically different players such as Flash and Boxer. You need to analyze the weaknesses of your opponent and create a suitable strategy that you practice.
Considering JD until today was in three individual leagues, as well as having pressure on him to do well and prepare for PL, it's no surprise he would be exhausted without proper preparation. Combine that with GOM being the least prestigious of the leagues and Effort being the second best zerg in the world, the result isn't surprising.


i agree with what you said
but effort was one of the two zergs he played in OSL so he was prepared for effort's playstyle
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8155 Posts
July 12 2009 20:34 GMT
#530
I don't think it's that JD was overpracticed but probably that he just had an off-night. I didn't see the VODs yet because gom is all gay and makes me wait an extra day to watch, but I assume effort also played very well. JD is far enough ahead of most Zs that he can come back from a disadvantage, but it appears that effort is good enough that he can consistently ride an advantage to victory vs JD.
Free Palestine
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 12 2009 20:45 GMT
#531
From the LRs, I think in the first game Effort went for some kind of 7 pool or something weird like that and the second game was 9 pool speed vs 12 hatch, which for some reason wasn't instant loss but neither game went to mutas.
Arf
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-12 20:49:14
July 12 2009 20:46 GMT
#532
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 12 2009 20:56 GMT
#533
As a huge JD fan this made me incredibly sad But i like effort and JD still has 2 leagues to go so i will cheer up hopefully!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 12 2009 20:58 GMT
#534
On July 13 2009 05:45 TwoStep wrote:
From the LRs, I think in the first game Effort went for some kind of 7 pool or something weird like that and the second game was 9 pool speed vs 12 hatch, which for some reason wasn't instant loss but neither game went to mutas.

First game was JD going overpool or 9 ( i can't remember) then he hides lings so ovie only sees 2)

Effort went 12pool expand and was able to hold it off. Then just runs JD over with mass speedlings.
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 12 2009 21:11 GMT
#535
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?

Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Instigata
Profile Joined April 2004
United States546 Posts
July 12 2009 21:11 GMT
#536
jaedongs decision in game 1 to not send lings right away was probably bad. Effort already knew jaedong had a slower hatch and thus could gain an advantage in lings. So he was going to make lings most likely either way. Jaedong lost the harassment which we saw in game 2 when effort sent his lings right away. This is funny becuz when jaedong played by.hero, jaedong used the same build twice in the first two games then beat by.hero using the build that was tried against him, which effort did to jaedong
SC2 was doomed from the start.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
July 12 2009 22:32 GMT
#537
jaedon is only a human too
and effort is the 2nd best zerg right now
no shame on that
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 12 2009 22:42 GMT
#538
Sexy, Blizzcon is shaping up to be a CJ fan's wet dream.

Definitely see either Effort or Iris there, with a possibility for both, and I'd expect them to invite Savior since he's the reigning champion.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
July 12 2009 22:50 GMT
#539
what the crap? jd ??
the throws never bothered me anyway
thinkzerg
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada162 Posts
July 12 2009 22:58 GMT
#540
Atta boy, EffOrt.
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