• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:11
CET 13:11
KST 21:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/Silen.Sense.Calm.Ears.Ire What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games Gypsy to Korea RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Which is better SEO or PPC? [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8674 users

[GOM] Ro8, Day2 - Page 28

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 31 Next All
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-12 23:47:23
July 12 2009 23:33 GMT
#541
On July 13 2009 06:11 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?


yes, exactly, but he played a lot more.

Besides he blamed the maps for his losses, which caused a massive hate explosion in the community. JD is playing now half the games KTY did back than and gets all the sympathy in the world "Poor JD, had to play too much". No? His opponents right now are not doing anything extraordinary, in all the games Jaedong lost he just played sloppy and bad, simple as that...

On the other hand he showed no weaknesses in the longer macro orientated game vs Kal, so I wonder if his opponents are not going to just rush the shit out of him in the next weeks or so, to try to exploit his early game mistakes of late. Just like go.go, yellow and zero ganged Bisu with non-standard strategies
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 12 2009 23:36 GMT
#542
I still cant believe jaedong got raped so hard, although i wonder if maybe he dropped the games just to make his schedule a little easier.
U Gotta Skate.
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 12 2009 23:41 GMT
#543
LOL raped?? what???'
The 90% of ZvZ looks like rape just cus its a fast match....
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
July 12 2009 23:49 GMT
#544
On July 13 2009 08:41 FranzF1 wrote:
LOL raped?? what???'
The 90% of ZvZ looks like rape just cus its a fast match....

i dunno man... when effort came in with almost a control group of zerglings in game 2 when JD didnt even have his pool done yet... kinda looked like a rape to me... it actually looked really painful watching it live... seeing someone with an unbeatable matchup get run over like that...
just lurking around...
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 12 2009 23:53 GMT
#545
No one cares about GOM
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 13 2009 00:02 GMT
#546
On July 13 2009 08:49 jello24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 08:41 FranzF1 wrote:
LOL raped?? what???'
The 90% of ZvZ looks like rape just cus its a fast match....

i dunno man... when effort came in with almost a control group of zerglings in game 2 when JD didnt even have his pool done yet... kinda looked like a rape to me... it actually looked really painful watching it live... seeing someone with an unbeatable matchup get run over like that...


That its just standard zvz... it was a BO advantage... effort played really good, the best part was on the ramp... he killed 6 JD lings and lost only 3 but like on PvP position its the only thing that matters.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2009 00:34 GMT
#547
On July 13 2009 09:02 FranzF1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 08:49 jello24 wrote:
On July 13 2009 08:41 FranzF1 wrote:
LOL raped?? what???'
The 90% of ZvZ looks like rape just cus its a fast match....

i dunno man... when effort came in with almost a control group of zerglings in game 2 when JD didnt even have his pool done yet... kinda looked like a rape to me... it actually looked really painful watching it live... seeing someone with an unbeatable matchup get run over like that...


That its just standard zvz... it was a BO advantage... effort played really good, the best part was on the ramp... he killed 6 JD lings and lost only 3 but like on PvP position its the only thing that matters.


Game 1 was pretty much rape.

Effort just microd leagues better.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 01:24:19
July 13 2009 01:16 GMT
#548
No way...

reading the thread now

edit: haha jaedong is going to be so fucking pissed off next time they play.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
July 13 2009 01:25 GMT
#549
Right now Im thinking
GOM: Flash - Which will be cool as then the big three will have won one season each, over their 1.5 year of dominance.

OSL: Jaedong - He would be the third Golden Mouse winner, and become the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.

MSL: Bisu - He would be the first player to ever win 4 MSLs which would be nice.

Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.

Obviously the MSL is still pretty open as 4 of the players are still in it. In GOM there is only Flash and Effort, and in OSL there is Jaedong and Leta. WCG and PL is still wide open.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 13 2009 01:34 GMT
#550
Snivels TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
July 13 2009 01:48 GMT
#551
Flash will win the tourny. Not bad. Bisu, Flash and Jaedong. Couldn't have asked for any better players to represent their respected race.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 13 2009 01:48 GMT
#552
On July 13 2009 10:25 Guybrush wrote:
Right now Im thinking
GOM: Flash - Which will be cool as then the big three will have won one season each, over their 1.5 year of dominance.

OSL: Jaedong - He would be the third Golden Mouse winner, and become the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.

MSL: Bisu - He would be the first player to ever win 4 MSLs which would be nice.

Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.

Obviously the MSL is still pretty open as 4 of the players are still in it. In GOM there is only Flash and Effort, and in OSL there is Jaedong and Leta. WCG and PL is still wide open.


that would be crazy yet awesome.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 13 2009 02:39 GMT
#553
On July 13 2009 10:25 Guybrush wrote:
Right now Im thinking
GOM: Flash - Which will be cool as then the big three will have won one season each, over their 1.5 year of dominance.

OSL: Jaedong - He would be the third Golden Mouse winner, and become the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.

MSL: Bisu - He would be the first player to ever win 4 MSLs which would be nice.

Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.

Obviously the MSL is still pretty open as 4 of the players are still in it. In GOM there is only Flash and Effort, and in OSL there is Jaedong and Leta. WCG and PL is still wide open.

Get this "then everyone's happy" crap outta here! CJ for PL! EffOrt for GOM/MSL/WCG!

And ... uhhhh ... type-b for OSL!
Moderator
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
July 13 2009 02:43 GMT
#554
On July 13 2009 06:11 Instigata wrote:
jaedongs decision in game 1 to not send lings right away was probably bad.


I agree. IIRC, Jaedong 9pooled in the first game, which should have been an easy win against EffOrt's 12hatch (like happened the other way around in the second game), but because he held back the lings, the second hatchery was already available to pump lings when he got there. Jaedong's micro and small-scale decision-making also seemed poor during that battle.

To me, EffOrt's play in both games reminded me a lot of how Jaedong usually wins zvzs: through flawless micro and insightful small-scale decision-making.
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
July 13 2009 02:44 GMT
#555
On July 13 2009 10:25 Guybrush wrote:
Right now Im thinking
GOM: Flash - Which will be cool as then the big three will have won one season each, over their 1.5 year of dominance.

OSL: Jaedong - He would be the third Golden Mouse winner, and become the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.

MSL: Bisu - He would be the first player to ever win 4 MSLs which would be nice.

Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.

Obviously the MSL is still pretty open as 4 of the players are still in it. In GOM there is only Flash and Effort, and in OSL there is Jaedong and Leta. WCG and PL is still wide open.

What about Canata, why does he always get the short end of the stick.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 13 2009 02:58 GMT
#556
On July 13 2009 10:25 Guybrush wrote:
Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.


I know you said Leta, but if you're talking top 5 players, I'm sure you meant fantasy... right?
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 03:04:01
July 13 2009 02:59 GMT
#557
Alright here's what's really gonna happen...
+ Show Spoiler +
GOM: (Z)EffOrt - I said at some point that the winner of the JD-EffOrt match would take it. Not like that's a ballsy prediction or anything, but yeah, it'll happen. EffOrt is too good, better than (T)Flash.

OSL: (T)fantasy - will finally take the OSL over (T)Leta. He'll 3-2 Jaedong in a great series and prove conclusively that he's the strongest Terran in the game.

MSL: (Z)Jaedong - Over (P)Bisu, epic finals.

That's the ultimate happy predictions; the top 6 players in three finals.


On the other side of things, amazing for EffOrt to take out JD, what a pro. I had a strange, vivid dream right before I woke up that Jaedong had won 2-1. Those dreams always convince me that they're correct, it's weird, sometimes they are. Silly subconscious.

And EffOrt does smile.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 13 2009 03:00 GMT
#558
2 losses ZvZ ... isn't that Jaedong's all-time worst losing streak in that MU?
You are now breathing manually.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 13 2009 03:03 GMT
#559
I think the worst streak was 3 losses. Jaedong is still a monster though
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 13 2009 03:12 GMT
#560
just realized Flash vs Effort would be even better for GOM finals because Flash cheesed Effort to eliminate him from OSL
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 622
Lowko278
Rex 98
MindelVK 30
TKL 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32954
Sea 3894
Jaedong 999
Mini 438
firebathero 398
Soma 381
Killer 339
actioN 254
Stork 241
Last 207
[ Show more ]
Hyun 174
EffOrt 167
Shuttle 154
Soulkey 109
hero 83
sSak 59
Sharp 50
Barracks 43
Sacsri 41
sorry 37
scan(afreeca) 24
[sc1f]eonzerg 22
Hm[arnc] 22
Movie 17
Rock 17
IntoTheRainbow 15
Noble 14
SilentControl 10
Dota 2
Gorgc2756
XcaliburYe355
Counter-Strike
zeus729
allub332
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor1
Other Games
FrodaN3122
singsing1987
ArmadaUGS1830
B2W.Neo1029
XaKoH 338
Happy198
Fuzer 188
crisheroes179
Sick128
RotterdaM115
KnowMe52
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings97
Other Games
BasetradeTV76
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 564
League of Legends
• Jankos2723
Upcoming Events
Platinum Heroes Events
2h 49m
BSL
7h 49m
RSL Revival
21h 49m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
23h 49m
BSL
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 22h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.