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ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 13 2009 03:15 GMT
#561
On July 13 2009 12:12 udgnim wrote:
just realized Flash vs Effort would be even better for GOM finals because Flash cheesed Effort to eliminate him from OSL


good memory!
You are now breathing manually.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 13 2009 03:36 GMT
#562
Jaedong.. this wasn't supposed to happen..
Brood War loyalist
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 13 2009 03:48 GMT
#563
On July 13 2009 10:25 Guybrush wrote:
Right now Im thinking
GOM: Flash - Which will be cool as then the big three will have won one season each, over their 1.5 year of dominance.

OSL: Jaedong - He would be the third Golden Mouse winner, and become the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.

MSL: Bisu - He would be the first player to ever win 4 MSLs which would be nice.

Then Leta could win WCG Korea, and Effort win PL with CJ, which would give some gold to each of the top 5 players.

Obviously the MSL is still pretty open as 4 of the players are still in it. In GOM there is only Flash and Effort, and in OSL there is Jaedong and Leta. WCG and PL is still wide open.


Ya I was thinking of the Flash/Bisu/Jaedong sweep as well.
But fuck Effort because T1 is going to win proleague.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 13 2009 04:28 GMT
#564
Holy hell Jaedong lost a BO series against a Zerg 2:0?

What happened.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 04:36:12
July 13 2009 04:31 GMT
#565
On July 13 2009 13:28 koreasilver wrote:
Holy hell Jaedong lost a BO series against a Zerg 2:0?

What happened.


You're experiencing the same chain reaction that I am.

1.) Angry.
2.) Ready for Jonny or Nevake to upload.
3.) Ready to wear black and mourn the >80% ZvZ bragging rights gone.
4.) The protoss passed his ELO. More sobbing. T.T
5.) Acceptance.
You are now breathing manually.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
July 13 2009 04:34 GMT
#566
On July 13 2009 13:31 ActualSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 13:28 koreasilver wrote:
Holy hell Jaedong lost a BO series against a Zerg 2:0?

What happened.


You're experiencing the same reaction that I am.

1.) Angry.
2.) Ready for Jonny or Nevake to upload.
3.) Ready to wear black and mourn the >80% ZvZ bragging rights gone.


this is GOM, so jonny and nevake wont upload the VODs.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
July 13 2009 04:35 GMT
#567
IRIS VS JULY FINALS!!!

I can see it happening now.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 13 2009 04:37 GMT
#568
On July 13 2009 13:34 29 fps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 13:31 ActualSteve wrote:
On July 13 2009 13:28 koreasilver wrote:
Holy hell Jaedong lost a BO series against a Zerg 2:0?

What happened.


You're experiencing the same reaction that I am.

1.) Angry.
2.) Ready for Jonny or Nevake to upload.
3.) Ready to wear black and mourn the >80% ZvZ bragging rights gone.


this is GOM, so jonny and nevake wont upload the VODs.


I've now fully entered phase three.
You are now breathing manually.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 13 2009 04:46 GMT
#569
On July 13 2009 13:35 Fontong wrote:
IRIS VS JULY FINALS!!!

I can see it happening now.

As much as I want EffOrt to win this thing - and to do it against Flash and not July, a July vs.Iris final would be pretty badass.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 13 2009 04:53 GMT
#570
On July 13 2009 08:33 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 06:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?


yes, exactly, but he played a lot more.

Besides he blamed the maps for his losses, which caused a massive hate explosion in the community. JD is playing now half the games KTY did back than and gets all the sympathy in the world "Poor JD, had to play too much". No? His opponents right now are not doing anything extraordinary, in all the games Jaedong lost he just played sloppy and bad, simple as that...

On the other hand he showed no weaknesses in the longer macro orientated game vs Kal, so I wonder if his opponents are not going to just rush the shit out of him in the next weeks or so, to try to exploit his early game mistakes of late. Just like go.go, yellow and zero ganged Bisu with non-standard strategies

Bisu said so many stupid ass things couple months ago
Thank god he fixed up
dats racist
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
July 13 2009 04:58 GMT
#571
On July 13 2009 08:33 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 06:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?


yes, exactly, but he played a lot more.

Besides he blamed the maps for his losses, which caused a massive hate explosion in the community. JD is playing now half the games KTY did back than and gets all the sympathy in the world "Poor JD, had to play too much". No? His opponents right now are not doing anything extraordinary, in all the games Jaedong lost he just played sloppy and bad, simple as that...

On the other hand he showed no weaknesses in the longer macro orientated game vs Kal, so I wonder if his opponents are not going to just rush the shit out of him in the next weeks or so, to try to exploit his early game mistakes of late. Just like go.go, yellow and zero ganged Bisu with non-standard strategies


eh.... what are your exact time frames? I really dont think bisu played too many more games than Jaedong has been playing.....
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ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 13 2009 05:34 GMT
#572
On July 13 2009 13:53 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 08:33 disciple wrote:
On July 13 2009 06:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?


yes, exactly, but he played a lot more.

Besides he blamed the maps for his losses, which caused a massive hate explosion in the community. JD is playing now half the games KTY did back than and gets all the sympathy in the world "Poor JD, had to play too much". No? His opponents right now are not doing anything extraordinary, in all the games Jaedong lost he just played sloppy and bad, simple as that...

On the other hand he showed no weaknesses in the longer macro orientated game vs Kal, so I wonder if his opponents are not going to just rush the shit out of him in the next weeks or so, to try to exploit his early game mistakes of late. Just like go.go, yellow and zero ganged Bisu with non-standard strategies

Bisu said so many stupid ass things couple months ago
Thank god he fixed up


His steroid allegations still remain unnoticed by MrHoon.
You are now breathing manually.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8078 Posts
July 13 2009 06:40 GMT
#573
Flash v Effort is going to be way more epic than JD v Flash imo because both players will probably play standard macro games. Not two hatch muta... every game
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 13 2009 06:42 GMT
#574
2 hatch muta is now the standard response to mech.
Arf
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8078 Posts
July 13 2009 06:48 GMT
#575
On July 13 2009 15:42 TwoStep wrote:
2 hatch muta is now the standard response to mech.


I could be wrong but I think mech nowadays is a response to 2 hatch muta, not the other way around... most players who go MnM vs two hatch get slaughtered and 2 hatching became widely popular again when JD used it against Flash in GOMS1 where Flash didn't mech once (and got slaughtered by it.)

Zergs still 2 hatch because it works against mech, and if on the off chance the terran goes for MnM they can just 2 hatch muta ftw. That's why in alot of ways I feel like 2 hatch muta sort of ruined TvZ even though people blame it on mech.

Again, maybe I'm totally wrong.. this is just how I saw it happen.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 13 2009 06:51 GMT
#576
Nono, 2 hatch muta is to negate any early vulture pressure. Any slower and the zerg is forced to get hydras out early. In comparison, 2 hatch offers a smoother transition to mutas to contain the terran and to get a better eco.
I'm just assuming that because all the zergs go 2 hatch vs terran nowadays. Sometimes even earlier vs Flash's mechionic builds.
Arf
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
July 13 2009 07:17 GMT
#577
muta micro has gotten so good that 2-hatch is just safer nowadays than 3-hatch. Not so much vs early game aggression (such as 2rax acad builds or something) but vs most cheesy/semi-cheesy terran things (like 2-port wraith or fantasy build etc).
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SuperKiller
Profile Joined December 2004
United States97 Posts
July 13 2009 08:06 GMT
#578
games are up on gom now
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 08:23:18
July 13 2009 08:20 GMT
#579
On July 13 2009 13:58 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 08:33 disciple wrote:
On July 13 2009 06:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 13 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:
I understand your concern about JD's tiredness and stamina issues but, actually he is not playing that very much... I mean 15 or so games last month, 9 games in this so far... this is like half the games Bisu played in the Jan/Feb this year (around 50 games in total). Maybe its just the summer I guess he will suck for another like week or so, thankfully he has relatively easy schedule - no PL matches to think of just for now, zvz vs ZerO and zvp vs Kal being game up. Nothing to worry about


remember how Bisu was kicked out of the MSL during that period?


yes, exactly, but he played a lot more.

Besides he blamed the maps for his losses, which caused a massive hate explosion in the community. JD is playing now half the games KTY did back than and gets all the sympathy in the world "Poor JD, had to play too much". No? His opponents right now are not doing anything extraordinary, in all the games Jaedong lost he just played sloppy and bad, simple as that...

On the other hand he showed no weaknesses in the longer macro orientated game vs Kal, so I wonder if his opponents are not going to just rush the shit out of him in the next weeks or so, to try to exploit his early game mistakes of late. Just like go.go, yellow and zero ganged Bisu with non-standard strategies


eh.... what are your exact time frames? I really dont think bisu played too many more games than Jaedong has been playing.....

Jaedong : 06.01 - 07.13 : 24 games
Bisu: 01.01 - 02.13: 33 games
alright, its not the half, but if jaedong doest play like one game in two days till the end of this month it will get somewhere around 60%. But 9 games more in 40 days period is a lot nevertheless
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JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
July 13 2009 19:53 GMT
#580
Watched the games. Iris is an aggressive badass as always. Effort won, while it is somewhat of an upset, Effort's zvz is pretty beastly. Sucks for Jaedong. Guess he should win OSL to get golden mouse (even before Savior could.......;_;). Effort vs Iris semis is going to be badass. Anyone remember Savior vs Iris semis in the OSL aka BEST BO5 EVER? If both these guys are playing at the top of their game, it's going to be intense. Maybe not as much as before because of gay mech builds =(

I kind of want Iris to win a major title because he really deserves it imo. Getting really close all the time, but not achieving it. Iris for MSL, Effort for Gom, Jaedong for OSL, CJ for Proleague please =]
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