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[ESI] Season 3, What does the future hold? - Page 2

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 12 2009 16:02 GMT
#21
I tried that and it didn't work very well.
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
July 12 2009 16:06 GMT
#22
On July 13 2009 00:45 jeddus wrote:
Everyone who reads this should simply donate $20 to the league if they have it.

Teams should have a $10 buy-in per player.

The buy-in alone would help boost the prize pool, although may deter some of the teams from joining.
(If the teams have sponsors, they should hit them for the cash)
If they wonder where it goes?
1) Guaranteed prize pool
2) Technology to run the site (web space, bandwidth, media servers, etc)
3) General Administration of the league (energy drinks to keep the admins up and running)


Community funding would be greatly criticized and the league would have to show how every cent was spent to keep drama at bay.

Teams wont buy-in to a tournament. Xeris tried it ... as he posted above.

The problem isn't the lack of a sponsor, its the lack of dependable and reliable admins.
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jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
July 12 2009 18:13 GMT
#23
On July 13 2009 01:06 yenta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 00:45 jeddus wrote:
Everyone who reads this should simply donate $20 to the league if they have it.

Teams should have a $10 buy-in per player.

The buy-in alone would help boost the prize pool, although may deter some of the teams from joining.
(If the teams have sponsors, they should hit them for the cash)
If they wonder where it goes?
1) Guaranteed prize pool
2) Technology to run the site (web space, bandwidth, media servers, etc)
3) General Administration of the league (energy drinks to keep the admins up and running)


Community funding would be greatly criticized and the league would have to show how every cent was spent to keep drama at bay.

Teams wont buy-in to a tournament. Xeris tried it ... as he posted above.

The problem isn't the lack of a sponsor, its the lack of dependable and reliable admins.


It is only my opinion:
If people are getting paid money they are more dependable and more reliable.

My other opinion:
It is good to do this for the community, but the community should really give back.
They would get a better quality product if they pay for the league.

The community may not be ready for buy-ins, but it is so common in other sports and competitions.

For example:
Our film team just dropped 150 bucks to compete in a San Jose city-wide film festival.
That doesn't count the $3000 we have to raise to actually make our movie and we aren't competing for a cash prize.

The community soft-ball league costs about 200 a team also. The money goes to the community and to pay referees and administrators. They tried it once with unpaid refs and admins and it fell apart.
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I wouldn't say you have one problem, a lack of admins, I would say you have many problems.
It is not a knock on you or the league, you guys are phenomenal!

But if teams have not been paid timely, and admins are not available, and you have to dig into your own pockets without any compensation... geez, that's not fair to anybody and the league might die out because we took advantage of you guys.
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If you do start season 3, please pm me the donation page so I can contribute, but if you don't want extra cash to help with things, then that is fine as it can be spent elsewhere.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 12 2009 18:18 GMT
#24
If people would donate it would be awesome... but people don't want to put their own money to play. I tried hosting a clan league that was pay-to-play per team, and only a few teams actually followed through with it. Basically it's just a big mess unless you're doing something like TLT back in the day.

It might be possible, but it's really not realistic to have a league based on community donations/pay-to-play. You'll have a bunch of people saying they will donate, but very few actually doing so, etc.

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 12 2009 20:36 GMT
#25
Yenta, I'll do what I did last season, which is #6 on your list, so I'll try to do that at least once a week maybe more depending on the replay quality. Just msg me on MSN when this gets started and you got yourself an admin ^^
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
July 12 2009 20:47 GMT
#26
I might have a sponsor for you.

Can you add me to MSN Kacper (don't think I have you yet)? I'll PM you.
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20Nation
Profile Joined February 2005
United States258 Posts
July 12 2009 21:01 GMT
#27
I have internet back so I can play a bigger role more like i did in season 1.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 13 2009 04:41 GMT
#28
Admining the clan wars would require me to join the games huh :l Due to issues with lag, I've never been able to play in a game on iccup or bnet with more than two people playing in it.

The other things, like updating stuff, I think I can do. I'm up for helping out for next season
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
July 13 2009 16:33 GMT
#29
On July 13 2009 13:41 ArvickHero wrote:
Admining the clan wars would require me to join the games huh :l Due to issues with lag, I've never been able to play in a game on iccup or bnet with more than two people playing in it.

The other things, like updating stuff, I think I can do. I'm up for helping out for next season

The only time I joined games was to make a decision based on a replay - which happened at most three times. Usually I used windowed mode on starcraft and changed b/w channels to make sure clanwars were on schedule.
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