• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:19
CEST 18:19
KST 01:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2008 users

[ESI] Season 3, What does the future hold? - Page 2

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
28 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 12 2009 16:02 GMT
#21
I tried that and it didn't work very well.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
July 12 2009 16:06 GMT
#22
On July 13 2009 00:45 jeddus wrote:
Everyone who reads this should simply donate $20 to the league if they have it.

Teams should have a $10 buy-in per player.

The buy-in alone would help boost the prize pool, although may deter some of the teams from joining.
(If the teams have sponsors, they should hit them for the cash)
If they wonder where it goes?
1) Guaranteed prize pool
2) Technology to run the site (web space, bandwidth, media servers, etc)
3) General Administration of the league (energy drinks to keep the admins up and running)


Community funding would be greatly criticized and the league would have to show how every cent was spent to keep drama at bay.

Teams wont buy-in to a tournament. Xeris tried it ... as he posted above.

The problem isn't the lack of a sponsor, its the lack of dependable and reliable admins.
Trutacz Practice Discord - https://discord.gg/PWF7Pv
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
July 12 2009 18:13 GMT
#23
On July 13 2009 01:06 yenta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 00:45 jeddus wrote:
Everyone who reads this should simply donate $20 to the league if they have it.

Teams should have a $10 buy-in per player.

The buy-in alone would help boost the prize pool, although may deter some of the teams from joining.
(If the teams have sponsors, they should hit them for the cash)
If they wonder where it goes?
1) Guaranteed prize pool
2) Technology to run the site (web space, bandwidth, media servers, etc)
3) General Administration of the league (energy drinks to keep the admins up and running)


Community funding would be greatly criticized and the league would have to show how every cent was spent to keep drama at bay.

Teams wont buy-in to a tournament. Xeris tried it ... as he posted above.

The problem isn't the lack of a sponsor, its the lack of dependable and reliable admins.


It is only my opinion:
If people are getting paid money they are more dependable and more reliable.

My other opinion:
It is good to do this for the community, but the community should really give back.
They would get a better quality product if they pay for the league.

The community may not be ready for buy-ins, but it is so common in other sports and competitions.

For example:
Our film team just dropped 150 bucks to compete in a San Jose city-wide film festival.
That doesn't count the $3000 we have to raise to actually make our movie and we aren't competing for a cash prize.

The community soft-ball league costs about 200 a team also. The money goes to the community and to pay referees and administrators. They tried it once with unpaid refs and admins and it fell apart.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I wouldn't say you have one problem, a lack of admins, I would say you have many problems.
It is not a knock on you or the league, you guys are phenomenal!

But if teams have not been paid timely, and admins are not available, and you have to dig into your own pockets without any compensation... geez, that's not fair to anybody and the league might die out because we took advantage of you guys.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you do start season 3, please pm me the donation page so I can contribute, but if you don't want extra cash to help with things, then that is fine as it can be spent elsewhere.
sex appeal
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 12 2009 18:18 GMT
#24
If people would donate it would be awesome... but people don't want to put their own money to play. I tried hosting a clan league that was pay-to-play per team, and only a few teams actually followed through with it. Basically it's just a big mess unless you're doing something like TLT back in the day.

It might be possible, but it's really not realistic to have a league based on community donations/pay-to-play. You'll have a bunch of people saying they will donate, but very few actually doing so, etc.

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 12 2009 20:36 GMT
#25
Yenta, I'll do what I did last season, which is #6 on your list, so I'll try to do that at least once a week maybe more depending on the replay quality. Just msg me on MSN when this gets started and you got yourself an admin ^^
Moderatorgold coin
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
July 12 2009 20:47 GMT
#26
I might have a sponsor for you.

Can you add me to MSN Kacper (don't think I have you yet)? I'll PM you.
Moderator
20Nation
Profile Joined February 2005
United States258 Posts
July 12 2009 21:01 GMT
#27
I have internet back so I can play a bigger role more like i did in season 1.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 13 2009 04:41 GMT
#28
Admining the clan wars would require me to join the games huh :l Due to issues with lag, I've never been able to play in a game on iccup or bnet with more than two people playing in it.

The other things, like updating stuff, I think I can do. I'm up for helping out for next season
Writerptrk
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
July 13 2009 16:33 GMT
#29
On July 13 2009 13:41 ArvickHero wrote:
Admining the clan wars would require me to join the games huh :l Due to issues with lag, I've never been able to play in a game on iccup or bnet with more than two people playing in it.

The other things, like updating stuff, I think I can do. I'm up for helping out for next season

The only time I joined games was to make a decision based on a replay - which happened at most three times. Usually I used windowed mode on starcraft and changed b/w channels to make sure clanwars were on schedule.
Trutacz Practice Discord - https://discord.gg/PWF7Pv
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#52
RotterdaM384
SteadfastSC46
IndyStarCraft 1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 1122
RotterdaM 384
mouzHeroMarine 331
SteadfastSC 46
BRAT_OK 24
UpATreeSC 17
IndyStarCraft 1
MindelVK 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6886
Bisu 1653
Britney 1641
Hyuk 399
BeSt 337
Soulkey 273
firebathero 184
Rush 103
Hyun 62
sorry 57
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 56
hero 52
Dewaltoss 46
Aegong 40
ToSsGirL 35
Sharp 29
910 21
Rock 21
zelot 15
GoRush 14
Terrorterran 14
Dota 2
qojqva1365
syndereN573
monkeys_forever223
Counter-Strike
byalli400
Other Games
singsing2673
B2W.Neo1377
Liquid`RaSZi1287
hiko952
ceh9254
Hui .239
KnowMe98
Trikslyr49
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1668
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 85
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 43
• Michael_bg 6
• FirePhoenix4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6583
Other Games
• WagamamaTV469
• Shiphtur296
• imaqtpie209
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 41m
The PondCast
17h 41m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 41m
WardiTV Qualifier
21h 41m
GSL
1d 17h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.