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On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.
Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad?
I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 05 2009 20:08 Nokeboy wrote:
another thing that makes me angry, Flash lost most of the actual battles. He held off everything successfully but lost about every battle.
Well he reinforced faster than shuttle, hence letting him win.
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Apparently you can't even scout Flash's base with 1st obs.
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On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.
Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.
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whoa, that was fucking gosu
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2 Shuttles for Shuttle, one with a reaver and the rest filled with zeals..
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
Lol shuttle loses 2 shuttles
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On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad? I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.
I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.
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Shuttle not showing any mercy for his shuttles...
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what did shuttle open with?
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On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.
Suicideing your army over and over while doing no economic damage.
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FACTORY EXPLOSION RIGHT THERE.
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On July 05 2009 20:13 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad? I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things. I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.
Terran is the defensive race, that's the way it is.
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On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.
Terran is best turtling race and best 200/200 army. You shouldn't be able to successfully hold off any type of offense until you get 200/200 imo.
edit: this is why ZvT is my favorite matchup is ZvT.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 05 2009 20:15 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time. Terran is best turtling race and best 200/200 army. You shouldn't be able to successfully hold off any type of offense until you get 200/200 imo.
so basically you're calling Shuttle's mistake a terran issue?
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hmm, shuttle seams ahead even though that drop didnt do shit
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Spider mines researched, and EMPed the arbiter!
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On July 05 2009 20:13 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time. Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad? I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things. I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.
By your logic, then, 2 hatch muta is just as bad as turtle Terran - no other race can outright win with early air units (for a demonstration of which, see skyhigh vs July game 2). The fact that almost any zerg can 2- or 3- hatch muta, while it takes an absolute best-of-S-class player like Flash to turtle-Terran and win, only makes it worse.
It's called dealing with a game with three races - and I advise it.
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On July 05 2009 20:08 Nokeboy wrote:
another thing that makes me angry, Flash lost most of the actual battles. He held off everything successfully but lost about every battle.
There's no such thing as cheap in comptetitive play. Cheap and Boring are scrub terms for tactics they are unable to comprehend.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Wow that was a SHIT ton of Factories... Jesus effing christ...
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