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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 05 2009 11:09 GMT
#561
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad?

I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 05 2009 11:10 GMT
#562
On July 05 2009 20:08 Nokeboy wrote:
another thing that makes me angry, Flash lost most of the actual battles. He held off everything successfully but lost about every battle.

Well he reinforced faster than shuttle, hence letting him win.
dats racist
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 05 2009 11:11 GMT
#563
Apparently you can't even scout Flash's base with 1st obs.
what the hell
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
July 05 2009 11:12 GMT
#564
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 05 2009 11:13 GMT
#565
whoa, that was fucking gosu
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 05 2009 11:13 GMT
#566
2 Shuttles for Shuttle, one with a reaver and the rest filled with zeals..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
July 05 2009 11:13 GMT
#567
Lol shuttle loses 2 shuttles
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
July 05 2009 11:13 GMT
#568
On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad?

I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.

I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 05 2009 11:13 GMT
#569
Shuttle not showing any mercy for his shuttles...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 05 2009 11:14 GMT
#570
what did shuttle open with?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 05 2009 11:14 GMT
#571
On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.



Suicideing your army over and over while doing no economic damage.
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
July 05 2009 11:14 GMT
#572
FACTORY EXPLOSION RIGHT THERE.
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 05 2009 11:15 GMT
#573
On July 05 2009 20:13 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad?

I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.

I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.


Terran is the defensive race, that's the way it is.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 11:16:27
July 05 2009 11:15 GMT
#574
On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.

Terran is best turtling race and best 200/200 army. You shouldn't be able to successfully hold off any type of offense until you get 200/200 imo.


edit: this is why ZvT is my favorite matchup is ZvT.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 05 2009 11:16 GMT
#575
On July 05 2009 20:15 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:12 Jayson X wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Bullshit, if anything you shouldn't be able to LOOSE a game by attacking the whole time.

Terran is best turtling race and best 200/200 army. You shouldn't be able to successfully hold off any type of offense until you get 200/200 imo.

so basically you're calling Shuttle's mistake a terran issue?
dats racist
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 05 2009 11:16 GMT
#576
hmm, shuttle seams ahead even though that drop didnt do shit
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 05 2009 11:17 GMT
#577
Spider mines researched, and EMPed the arbiter!
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 05 2009 11:17 GMT
#578
On July 05 2009 20:13 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 20:09 Musoeun wrote:
On July 05 2009 20:05 Nokeboy wrote:
It might be hard to do but its extremely cheap, you shouldn't be able to win a game by defending the whole time.


Why not? Granted Flash isn't always as exciting as, say, Iris, but what makes a defensive style inherently bad?

I assume you're not basing what "should" or "shouldn't" be purely on your own personal resulting entertainment, because that's ...well, subjective, among other things.

I was not entertained by that game but that doesn't effect my opinion. In a game where the objective is to destroy your other players buildings, you should not be able to win strictly by sitting in your own base, unless every race can do it. I haven't been watching that long (year or 2) but I have never seen a zerg or protoss successfully turtle almost 100 supply down and actually win at the end.


By your logic, then, 2 hatch muta is just as bad as turtle Terran - no other race can outright win with early air units (for a demonstration of which, see skyhigh vs July game 2). The fact that almost any zerg can 2- or 3- hatch muta, while it takes an absolute best-of-S-class player like Flash to turtle-Terran and win, only makes it worse.

It's called dealing with a game with three races - and I advise it.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 05 2009 11:17 GMT
#579
On July 05 2009 20:08 Nokeboy wrote:
another thing that makes me angry, Flash lost most of the actual battles. He held off everything successfully but lost about every battle.

There's no such thing as cheap in comptetitive play. Cheap and Boring are scrub terms for tactics they are unable to comprehend.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
July 05 2009 11:17 GMT
#580
Wow that was a SHIT ton of Factories... Jesus effing christ...
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