EPT[SPL] Hwaseung Oz vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 67
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:52 Kentor wrote: wrong. jaedong's worst is vT.. but his worst doesn't mean a shit anyway Actually, Jaedong's vT and vP are tied, but he's more inconsistent in vP. But that's irrelevant. | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2246 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:52 scyper wrote: 1. JD lost like what? 4-5 overlords to Bisu's corsairs 2. JD made mutas to try to snipe HTs but they got stormed TWICE... so that made them really weak ^-- those two things had nothing to do with map imbalance after those two things, bisu was just ahead and he rode the momentum and played nicely with little to no mistake (except those constant observer snipes) add not denying 2nd scouting probe and you have lost match after 5 minutes in  | ||
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Fredflintstone
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boxxyownz
United States103 Posts
also lol battle royal, bisu is highly talented but the map is imba for pvz because theres only expos at each different base, you cna just super harrass at the 4th hatch and its super hard to defend that with the bases being so far away and in a choke point. gg bisu but i thik if it was a more balanced map the outcome would've been better. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:54 boxxyownz wrote: lol i love bisu fanboys, he wins 1 game vs a good player and hes bonjwa. also lol battle royal, bisu is highly talented but the map is imba for pvz because theres only expos at each different base, you cna just super harrass at the 4th hatch and its super hard to defend that with the bases being so far away and in a choke point. gg bisu but i thik if it was a more balanced map the outcome would've been better. a lot of crazy fanboys are like that | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:51 Avidkeystamper wrote: Hey, I haven't responded to OneOther in quite some time. Let's hope this doesn't get ugly. "Okay, Jaedong lost a lot of overlords since his spire was late. This was because of his overpool as opposed to a normal 12 hatch. However, a 12 hatch is suicidal on this map for zergs since the other races can box them in using the choke. " um i would argue that overpool/9 pool build is more common than the 12 hatch build now, as it forces the protoss to go forge/cut probes before getting the nexus. that's certainly not a map factor and the reason why jaedong lost | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:51 ReketSomething wrote: Keep in mind...this is Bisu's best matchup versus JAedongs worst Dunno bout this, cause Bisu's been trucking everyone lately that it seems like his PvZ is probably his worst matchup. And Jaedong's worst is by far vs T. You could tell that it was gonna be a bad game for Jaedong once he lost 4 overlords at the start, let a scout in, and literally wasted all his mutas. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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Dr.Green
Philippines264 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:52 Kentor wrote: no p is his worse. hes 6-6 this pl against p, lost to jjonga a while ago...etc. undeniable his zvp is his weakest.wrong. jaedong's worst is vT.. but his worst doesn't mean a shit anyway | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:54 boxxyownz wrote: lol i love bisu fanboys, he wins 1 game vs a good player and hes bonjwa. hes won more than 1 game vs a good player. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9055 Posts
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Signus
United States269 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7584 Posts
Fact, they are both amazing, bisu won because he played way smarter today. Why does everytime one of them win or lose you guys have to go into a pointless/endless debate about xy and z? They are the strongest protoss and zerg of all time, that is all that actually matters. I love when they play so much =). | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:55 OneOther wrote: um i would argue that overpool/9 pool build is more common than the 12 hatch build now, as it forces the protoss to go forge/cut probes before getting the nexus. that's certainly not a map factor and the reason why jaedong lost I don't know. Is overpool better economically in ZvP? Well, it is a map factor since the narrow choke is easily exploitable for other races. See Shine vs Lomo. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:56 Garnet wrote: Remaining enemies: Violet. I think Violet was Majaeyoon in disquise. 14-2 in 2009 or something | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:56 AttackZerg wrote: =myballslol you guys all post so terrible after either jaedong or bisu loses. Fact, they are both amazing, bisu won because he played way smarter today. Why does everytime one of them win or lose you guys have to go into a pointless/endless debate about xy and z? They are the strongest protoss and zerg of all time, that is all that actually matters. I love when they play so much =). | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
There are exceptions to every map. Some players will be able to beat the map imba at times, but the map imba still exists. Again with my battle royal analogy: even though the map is favored to zerg, two zergs (hyuk and zero) still lose to terrans (upmagic and light) | ||
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