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Aurioch
United States414 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:59 VioleTAK wrote: Time to fix the damage now... I woke up 5am for this, waited 2 hours for the Bisu-JD... Then when it happen I kicked my gf out of the room. Here come the pain. Well worth it though :-) In Netherland it is legal for women to spank men | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:02 eshlow wrote: Honestly, look at the game list of ZvP on Heartbreak: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/199_Heartbreak_Ridge/games/ZvP It looks like the better player won almoste very time ^^ Seems to me like toss has a hard to take 3rd, Zerg has a hard to old 4th. But what do I know... Bisu just outplayed Jaedong in this game: 1. got second probe scout in which led to 2. + goon hits = killing 1 ovie in his base faster + 1 in jaedong's main faster than normal 3. not losing HTs to mutas + getting good storms off 4. avoiding too many obs snipes etc. Really though, HBR favors protoss and it's pointless to deny this. I don't see how winning on a map that favors you takes anything away from how you played. | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:58 GTR wrote: Two years ago if you said that, I would have agreed with you. Now, definitely not. His gameplay style revolving around mutalisk harassment is way, way more effective vP rather than vT. As players have started to solve the mutalisk harass problem in TvZ, I'd say his ZvP at the moment is better than his ZvT. Jaedong has looked somewhat vulnerable (by his lofty standards) in both ZvP and ZvT lately. You're right that his gameplay style is way more effective against Protoss than it is against Terran. But against Bisu ... it's just so hard to be at more places at once than he is because his multitasking is also so good. When was the last time somebody looked like they were all over the map and Bisu had trouble catching up? Honestly, it might have been the Savior game in MSL, a very long time ago. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:02 Avidkeystamper wrote: Why does everything have to be an argument? I already said Bisu played better today, I'm just curious as to whether the choke affects the balance of the map. Can't we have discussions? ah yeah, i didn't mean that in a negative way. for one i cant believe i am defending bisu lol. goodnight everyone | ||
GTR
51342 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:03 darktreb wrote: Jaedong has looked somewhat vulnerable (by his lofty standards) in both ZvP and ZvT lately. You're right that his gameplay style is way more effective against Protoss than it is against Terran. But against Bisu ... it's just so hard to be at more places at once than he is because his multitasking is also so good. When was the last time somebody looked like they were all over the map and Bisu had trouble catching up? Honestly, it might have been the Savior game in MSL, a very long time ago. by.hero. Watch the OSL Ro36 games and the Proleague game on Tau Cross. by.hero's style just makes Bisu work overtime which ultimately led to his defeat. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:43 Avidkeystamper wrote: I guess since there's nothing else to separate them, Bisu will take #1 PR. But it feels so gipped. You never know if Effort could come out of nowhere and steal it from both of them. I know he'd probably lose to either of them in a 1v1, but he's 22-3 in his last 25 games | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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Deleted User 37864
780 Posts
but that played no part in bisu's win | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:02 eshlow wrote: Honestly, look at the game list of ZvP on Heartbreak: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/199_Heartbreak_Ridge/games/ZvP It looks like the better player won almoste very time ^^ Seems to me like toss has a hard to take 3rd, Zerg has a hard to old 4th. But what do I know... Bisu just outbonjwa'd Jaedong in this game: 1. I like Bisu more than Jaedong 2. SKT1 is a better team in my opinion 3. Have you seen Bisu's hair? 4. Bisu is HOTTTTTTT etc. I totally agree. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
But to be courteous to the JD fans, Bisu fans, try to think if the ace was on God's Garden and Jaedong had won. It wouldn't decide anything. I think the only way to decide who's truly better is in the upper echelons of a starleague on fairly balanced maps. | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:05 TwoToneTerran wrote: Good job by Bisu, definitely the better player in that match up. But to be courteous to the JD fans, Bisu fans, try to think if the ace was on God's Garden and Jaedong had won. It wouldn't decide anything. I think the only way to decide who's truly better is in the upper echelons of a starleague on fairly balanced maps. Never going to happen T_T | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
Bisu almost made no mistakes playing near perfect, jaedong fucked up with his mutas (mabye under pressure?), let a second probe in, and just overall played pretty bad compared to his usual. Bisu played very well and kept riding on his advantage and won. I think having lots of goon/templar is good on this map. I'm kinda sad that Jaedong lost  , but EVERYTHING was in bisus favor this game, like even the map rofl.Kinda hoping Jaedong doesn't fail like this in his next game vs bisu :/ | ||
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peanutter
Australia165 Posts
when is iccup going to get back up? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:59 VioleTAK wrote: Time to fix the damage now... I woke up 5am for this, waited 2 hours for the Bisu-JD... Then when it happen I kicked my gf out of the room. Here come the pain. Well worth it though :-) Awesome. Good luck ;p | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:08 peanutter wrote: from the rants of a jaedong fan: jaedong tradition is lose to them in proleague before proceeding to stomp on them later? i'll eat my words later Jaedong's real ability is in his series play IMO. Last time he played Bisu in proleague, he lost similarly, through a one mistake beatdown. Then beat Bisu in the special game series later that night. (also inconclusive) | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
This was the most fun series I've experienced that Oz lost, tbh. | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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FMGustave
United States81 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:09 keV. wrote: Jaedong's real ability is in his series play IMO. Last time he played Bisu in proleague, he lost similarly, through a one mistake beatdown. Then beat Bisu in the special game series later that night. (also inconclusive) I agree with this. We've seen Jaedong drop the first game of a series every time and then end up winning. I don't want to read too much into one game between these two players who never give up an advantage once they have one, but that doesn't mean I'm any happier about it =( | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:12 Kentor wrote: I love canata!! | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:09 Avidkeystamper wrote: At least since JD lost in the PL, he'll win their next Bo5! =] This was the most fun series I've experienced that Oz lost, tbh. What I found funny was that the first 4 sets went just as planned even with all the small details, like backho's face, fantasy failing to perform when you need him to etc. | ||
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