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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
June 07 2009 07:27 GMT
#1401
70 pages of pure epicness. You gotta love TL and its fanboyism.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
June 07 2009 07:28 GMT
#1402
I think we just need to cheer for Canata
Had him not won, nothing interesting would happen tonight
Hes the truly hero today
-*-
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 07 2009 07:28 GMT
#1403
On June 07 2009 16:27 deathgod6 wrote:
70 pages of pure epicness. You gotta love TL and its fanboyism.


I think only like 40 count lol. a lot were just filled with stuff like.

OMG I HEART BISU! or WTF MAP IMBALANCE WTF JAEDONG LOST! or LOL JAEDONG SLUMPING! or BISU BONJWA!
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
June 07 2009 07:30 GMT
#1404
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 07 2009 07:31 GMT
#1405
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D


dude, jaedong is 7-6 on bisu
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
June 07 2009 07:34 GMT
#1406
On June 07 2009 16:31 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D


dude, jaedong is 7-6 on bisu

*avoids the flamebait*
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 07 2009 07:37 GMT
#1407
To me the major factor was the play as Bisu got his second big push together - with templar this time. JD was focused on his muta control, trying to snipe templar and avoid goons, and as a result let his massive hydralisk army get slaughtered by storms. They didn't even move - Jaedong lost about twenty hydralisks to about three storms and Bisu rolled the fourth expansion. He drove Bisu off and re-expanded, but he never seriously cut into Bisu's army size again after that. I think he might actually - with that insane lurker field holding his fourth - have done better getting drop as Hogil did yesterday against Violet rather than going straight to Hive. Bisu was incredibly focused on breaking into the fourth expansion and his own third and fourth were only relatively lightly defended. Trying to out-multi-task Bisu is risky business, but Jaedong let him focus on only one thing.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 07 2009 07:37 GMT
#1408
I choose not to include "hold position bro" and think of them more as 6-6 now.
Remember Violet.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
June 07 2009 07:38 GMT
#1409
On June 07 2009 16:31 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D


dude, jaedong is 7-6 on bisu


Also keep in mind, JD always defeated Bisu in a match where it mattered the most like Starleagues and GOM. Not to mention, even though they both have 3 starleague titles to their name, Bisu doesn't have a single OSL title. Bisu is not a bonjwa until he wins an OSL.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 07:42:09
June 07 2009 07:41 GMT
#1410
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D

I could. This one game does not determine who is the better sc player, it probably will determine the PR though.
On June 07 2009 16:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I choose not to include "hold position bro" and think of them more as 6-6 now.

Why? His loss that game had nothing to do with hold position, he played dumb, today, he played smart.
Jaedong
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
June 07 2009 07:44 GMT
#1411
On June 07 2009 16:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D

I could. This one game does not determine who is the better sc player, it probably will determine the PR though.
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I choose not to include "hold position bro" and think of them more as 6-6 now.

Why? His loss that game had nothing to do with hold position, he played dumb, today, he played smart.

Avidkeystamper is right. A win is a win anyways.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 07 2009 07:50 GMT
#1412
On June 07 2009 16:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D

I could. This one game does not determine who is the better sc player, it probably will determine the PR though.
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I choose not to include "hold position bro" and think of them more as 6-6 now.

Why? His loss that game had nothing to do with hold position, he played dumb, today, he played smart.


Because it barely counted as a game. It was over so fast for almost no real reason -- there was no comparison of skill in that match and it really wasn't worth remembering.
Remember Violet.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 07 2009 07:53 GMT
#1413
On June 07 2009 16:50 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 07 2009 16:30 MuffinDude wrote:
With this, we now know who is the better starcraft player, bisu. You can't deny that avidkeystamper. =D

I could. This one game does not determine who is the better sc player, it probably will determine the PR though.
On June 07 2009 16:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I choose not to include "hold position bro" and think of them more as 6-6 now.

Why? His loss that game had nothing to do with hold position, he played dumb, today, he played smart.


Because it barely counted as a game. It was over so fast for almost no real reason -- there was no comparison of skill in that match and it really wasn't worth remembering.


All games are worth remembering.

By your logic, if a player makes a mistake, then automatically the game is a bad game?
i.e. savior vs bisu, savior not noticing the dt killing his drones.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 07:55:52
June 07 2009 07:55 GMT
#1414
Over simplifying it. The point was it wasn't even a match. Lings in base, woop, game over. After an epic 2-2 that showed how incredibly close the two were, that last game looked like Jaedong was clearly superior when he wasn't. It was a gimme win and as far as I'm concerned, the only reason Jaedong is really a better player is because he can win OSLs.
Remember Violet.
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
June 07 2009 07:56 GMT
#1415
does anyone have the vods or are they up somewhere yet?
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 09:42:42
June 07 2009 07:58 GMT
#1416
edit: nvm
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 07 2009 08:01 GMT
#1417
On June 07 2009 16:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Over simplifying it. The point was it wasn't even a match. Lings in base, woop, game over. After an epic 2-2 that showed how incredibly close the two were, that last game looked like Jaedong was clearly superior when he wasn't. It was a gimme win and as far as I'm concerned, the only reason Jaedong is really a better player is because he can win OSLs.

You can't just not count games where Bisu makes mistakes.
Jaedong
exkgb
Profile Joined September 2005
United States504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 12:17:57
June 07 2009 08:04 GMT
#1418
On June 07 2009 16:58 fw wrote:
a little gift from me


Thank you so much!

*edit: quote removed
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 07 2009 08:11 GMT
#1419
HE SAID DON'T QUOTE WTF READ
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 08:14:41
June 07 2009 08:13 GMT
#1420
On June 07 2009 17:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 16:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Over simplifying it. The point was it wasn't even a match. Lings in base, woop, game over. After an epic 2-2 that showed how incredibly close the two were, that last game looked like Jaedong was clearly superior when he wasn't. It was a gimme win and as far as I'm concerned, the only reason Jaedong is really a better player is because he can win OSLs.

You can't just not count games where Bisu makes mistakes.


It's not because Bisu made a mistake -- trust me I am not raving over Bisu for this. It's just not a comparison of skill, and as far as we're comparing who the best player is, it's not worth mentioning. It'd be like if Jaedong went 12hatch and bisu proxied some gates. It wouldn't make Bisu better it's just a stupid early game advantage that decided the game and I wouldn't be not counting it just because jaedong made a mistake.

Games like this one, even with a p favored map, are worth mentioning when we tally up how well they play against each other.
Remember Violet.
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