Ofc today I'll show up. Hopefully I'll be able to play timestop. If I make it to finals vs. nyoken I will OBVIOUSLY just forfeit my match vs. him. As for before hand, Timestop there wasn't any admins online to PP it with. I didn't want to be like lets play it later and admins mess it up even worse because they didn't know anything. Anyway sorry Timestop I didn't know what else to do in that situation. I geuss I could have been nicer and told nyoken I wasn't going to play him then because of Timestop, but when Nyoken showed me on the site that the rules say it has to be played then I thought ok lets play it.

food

United States1951 Posts

June 01 2009 17:25 GMT

#902

On June 01 2009 16:45 nyoken wrote:
Xeris enters the channel around this time and says that we should play it out

On June 01 2009 12:02 Xeris wrote:
the fucked up thing is that there was no admin present and it's been over 12 hours and no admin has come to address the issue.

will they force people to re-play or will the result stand? o_O!~

LMAO!

On June 01 2009 17:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
i gotta agree with nyoken on this

Crummy situation but if machinehead/timestop have anyone to be mad at it isn't the guy who followed the rules, ask for leniency from the other guy who then gave none.. and ended up winning the tourney vs the favorite.

You guys have like 5 more chances to qualify but this one should be nyoken's imo.

Maybe thats why neither Xeris nor Incontrol were allowed to admin anything in WCG US. I can only imagine LOL

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

June 01 2009 17:36 GMT

#903

I don't get what about my post was funny? I said they should probably play it because only 1 person out of 4 asked for a reschedule and nobody seemed to want to do it, and I told them to take screenshots and stuff just in case.

Obviously admin decisions would override anything, so the admin should come and say whether or not the result stands or it should be re-played. I don't know what;s funny about that? O_O;

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

June 01 2009 17:40 GMT

#904

not to mention if I was running these tournaments this situation would never have happened in the first place.

Louder

United States2276 Posts

June 01 2009 17:45 GMT

#905

What these people crying favoritism have to understand is that chosen and nyoken are unlikely to drop one game in twenty to timestop or machine head, much less lose a bo3

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

June 01 2009 17:58 GMT

#906

On June 02 2009 01:59 Louder wrote:

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Chill smells another opportunity to ban me!

Contrary to popular believe, martyring youself will not make me think twice about banning you.

tiffany

3664 Posts

June 01 2009 17:59 GMT

#907

On June 02 2009 02:45 Louder wrote:
What these people crying favoritism have to understand is that chosen and nyoken are unlikely to drop one game in twenty to timestop or machine head, much less lose a bo3

you do realize that this has nothing to do with anything right?

Louder

United States2276 Posts

June 01 2009 18:02 GMT

#908

On June 02 2009 02:59 tiffany wrote:

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you do realize that this has nothing to do with anything right?

Well you see, it actually does, because the people being accused of favoritism have no reason at all to worry about these guys actually playing their games - we know them. We know what the results will be.

Louder

United States2276 Posts

June 01 2009 18:03 GMT

#909

On June 02 2009 02:58 Chill wrote:

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Contrary to popular believe, martyring youself will not make me think twice about banning you.

Do you know what the word "martyr" actually means? It doesn't look like you do.

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

June 01 2009 18:06 GMT

#910

The actual definition? Sure. And by extension, it fits in this case.

Louder

United States2276 Posts

June 01 2009 18:14 GMT

#911

On June 02 2009 03:06 Chill wrote:
The actual definition? Sure. And by extension, it fits in this case.

–noun
1. a person who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his or her religion.
2. a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice.
3. a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: a martyr to severe headaches.
4. a person who seeks sympathy or attention by feigning or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc.
–verb (used with object)
5. to make a martyr of, esp. by putting to death.
6. to torment or torture.

None of these apply to me. If you attempt to apply 4, you'd be wrong, as I don't want sympathy for being banned by an admin whom I dislike and have deliberately provoked on countless occasions.

Excello.ChOseN

United States82 Posts

June 01 2009 18:16 GMT

#912

Whatever Chill says is right. Chill is NEVER wrong. Chill started me saying GooDLucK~ in that format. I wuv u Chill <3

tiffany

3664 Posts

June 01 2009 18:16 GMT

#913

On June 02 2009 03:02 Louder wrote:

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what does any of that even mean? i don't even know how to respond to that lol

seeing as the entire basis for this conflict has flown over your head, i can only assume that your next response is going to be equally irrelevant =[

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

June 01 2009 18:30 GMT

#914

They don't apply to you directly Louder. It started with people saying they'd rather be banned than fit into some version of TL they didn't like. These days we just extended the phrase to cover all "I'll probably get banned for this" actions.

MachineHead

United States151 Posts

June 01 2009 18:47 GMT

#915

I saw Louder made a big post but I stopped after he said he "emailed me." Not wasting my time on people who don't deserve to have time themselves. After the last qualifier you would have to be stupid as fuck or an abuser to do what chosen did, the "not sure about what the admins would do" is not at all valid, especially after BEING THE ONE to initiate the "we will make our on time" movement. It was obvious an admin was not going to be on to give us an opponent at the time on the guideline; if that wasn't the case, he would have had the smarts to change the brackets... it's such a common sense thing that if people don't understand it, there really is no hope in even discussing it.

I can't believe this is going to be allowed. Ridiculous. I say if they didn't break the rules, let the fucking results stand so WCG can look stupid and hopefully there will be changes made in the future.

MachineHead

United States151 Posts

June 01 2009 18:49 GMT

#916

I would rather have nyoken win this right now than see chosen playing in this, and I hope timestop would agree to this.

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

June 01 2009 19:11 GMT

#917

On June 02 2009 03:49 MachineHead wrote:
I would rather have nyoken win this right now than see chosen playing in this, and I hope timestop would agree to this.

I'm a little late to this, but how many actual matches did you play in this WCG, and how many were won on WO?

MachineHead

United States151 Posts

June 01 2009 19:15 GMT

#918

That might be the most pointless post I've seen in a while. What is your favorite food? Seems about as equally pointless, but I'm curious at the moment. I like this game, we should do it more. My opponent is not even chosen, go somewhere with this... I beat artosis and icafe.moto to get into the previous one, and I beat semih to get into this final 4. I obviously played more games, simply listing the ones at the late stages before the final 4. All of my games report as 0-0. I have earned where I'm at, if that is what you are getting at. I've already qualified for these things in the past, so I mean it's just so pointless to me.

MachineHead

United States151 Posts

June 01 2009 19:18 GMT

#919

Perhaps your point was if your opponent doesn't show up at the official time, you shouldn't take a walkover. This may be a hard concept, but the only way you are getting more walkovers than anyone else, is if people are dodging you. So you could pose that same question to anyone else and it would still be pointless.... I don't know you, but I have seen you stream games -- I like you, funny guy, good player -- but I don't agree with your message. The tone rather.

MachineHead

United States151 Posts

June 01 2009 19:24 GMT

#920

Also, wouldn't you know, timestop said he can't play till at least 12 tonight, and they still don't seem to care about his inclusion. And after what has happened, you would think they would be dying to try to fix their image by being o so accommodating.