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MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 20:46:38
June 01 2009 20:46 GMT
#941
Laurent needs to fucking do his god damn job. Until he makes the final brackets, nothing can even be proved by showing up at the fucking retarded default time. If I failed to do my job, I would prob do the same thing I guess then. Fuck, Laurent.
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States100 Posts
June 01 2009 20:46 GMT
#942
Machinehead I reported the walk over a few minutes ago. Glostik sent me an email that I could post the results. I would have posted the results of everything but I can't report the results of Chosen vs Timestop (which also would have been a walk over) because I'm not either of them. I also can't post the results of what would have been the loser brackets.

If I could have I would have posted the whole thing.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
June 01 2009 20:48 GMT
#943
Thank fucking god you are doing so, because if any competent WCG person sees this thread and there is no distortion, I won't have to deal with this admin again. Maybe, there will be a different one. I don't know if it's WCG's fault, in that they can't pay an admin to work many hours or what, but something has to change.
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States100 Posts
June 01 2009 20:49 GMT
#944
Machinehead I feel the same way about admins not having to be online. It's ridiculous. It's like having a basketball tournament, then when you get there theres no referees. Then if there is a problem you have to contact a referee somehow and wait hours for a response. That's why I posted the screenshot of it so people would believe me when I said admins don't have to be online.
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States100 Posts
June 01 2009 20:50 GMT
#945
Machinehead people giving you alot of shit on here, probably more because of your word choice, but I can atleast say you have made valid arguments.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 01 2009 20:51 GMT
#946
I didnt submit wins of anything MachineHead.

I did look at your walkover request, I did also read what Day wrote and that he had everyone agree to a reschedule, so you filing a W.O. seemed pretty messed up to me. I removed the W.O. and left it at that. I dont remember "threatening" to disqualify you, and if I did, it would be because reporting false scores is a pretty big deal.

You know MachineHead, I'm not here to hold your hand, which is exactly what youve been using as your excuse this whole time. There are competition guides, rules, faq's and other players to ask for help. I have other responsibilities to take care of. I cannot be on 24hrs a day. This isnt a call center in India.

And on that point, why didnt you file a support ticket BEFORE sunday asking where the brackets where or who your opponent was.
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 20:55:15
June 01 2009 20:53 GMT
#947
On June 02 2009 05:38 Laurent wrote:
Normally, I would choose not to post on these forums because of previous issues.

But, I would like to point out that Nyoken and Chosen did the right thing by playing at the default time as is stated in the competition guide. We have to have a default time when parties cannot agree on a time together. That default time must be used when the parties involved cannot agree on a set time.

However, **IF** all parties involved agree to a replay, then I will allow it.

Despite how things may seem sometimes, these are community based events, and I don't like to force anyone to a Forfeit Win, unless its absolutely necessary.

Also, dont rely on someone else to talk to an admin for you to ask for a postponement. And Chosen shouldnt be offering to do so. If YOU have a problem, you need to deal with it by either asking an admin or submitting a support ticket (best way). If its some sort of emergency, I can be contacted on MSN - lordrunt@hotmail.com . Geoff (Incontrol) can vouch that I will respond and talk on MSN.


Question 1: The brackets show the matches to be played Monday at 8:00 PM EST. Why is that? Does the competition guide trump what the website shows for future cases?

Question 2 (important for future qualifiers): In the future, if no brackets are posted, what method determines who plays who (assume 3 people show up - who gets the bye) - considering all of the double elim bracket seedings have been random?

Question 3: Unrelated to SC:BW, but I've been playing in the Carom3D qualifiers, but never get emails via WCG's system for some reason. Hence, that competition guide says "4-ball or 8-ball", yet does not clarify which for each round, and during the last qualifier the admins forced us to play 3-ball (not listed in the guide). As I never receive emails from WCG, could you update the competition guide to be accurate for that game since that is the authoritative source for information and I usually am behind in finding out about rule changes due to the lack of being emailed?

Thanks.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
June 01 2009 20:57 GMT
#948
Laurent, SHUT THE FUCK UP. I'm done with you. I don't want you to hold my hand, I want you to fuck off and relinquish your position as you have obviously failed to provide and adequately ran tourney. You are no help. If it wasn't for being required to deal with you, I would never say shit to you. Hopefully that can start soon.

I'm not putting up with stupid shit created every tourney, that is is created by your void. Though to be fair, if you were here to help, how much help would it actually be. So maybe that is why your are absent.

Last year I went to play my games in the round of 8, but someone didn't want to play me so they submitted the walkover anyways. No admins showed up that day or for the rest of the tourney, and there was no support option then. I'm fed up with this bull shit.

You can go fuck yourself. .
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 01 2009 20:58 GMT
#949
1. The brackets had to have those times put in so they would stay active for score inputs.
2. The bracket continues to go onward as the main bracket. Only one time was it "random" and thats because the person making the brackets made a mistake and didnt fix it in time. Instead of looking where the name are on the bracket, look at whos playing who and you will see it matched up with the big bracket.
3. The admin handling Carom 3d says he sends it out every week. He thinks they are probably ending up in your spam folder. The 3Ball thing was because Korea told us to use 3ball, WCG USA didnt agree with this and it has now been changed to 8Ball.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 01 2009 21:00 GMT
#950
Obviously you dont know how to interact with anyone, so how do you expect to get any help whatsoever?

Your track record speaks for itself in whats going on, there are several complaints from many players of you falsely reporting W.O.s over them.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
June 01 2009 21:00 GMT
#951
On June 02 2009 05:58 Laurent wrote:
1. The brackets had to have those times put in so they would stay active for score inputs.
2. The bracket continues to go onward as the main bracket. Only one time was it "random" and thats because the person making the brackets made a mistake and didnt fix it in time. Instead of looking where the name are on the bracket, look at whos playing who and you will see it matched up with the big bracket.
3. The admin handling Carom 3d says he sends it out every week. He thinks they are probably ending up in your spam folder. The 3Ball thing was because Korea told us to use 3ball, WCG USA didnt agree with this and it has now been changed to 8Ball.


That's funny, "it's a mistake." An intelligent person sees that and haves faith that WCG admins can do something as simple as make a fucking bracket. I was fully aware of that "mistake" before Sunday. So I knew that if I had no fucking opponent, that there was no way to play my match without being given one by you or some other admin. Where the fuck were you at 12, or w/e fucking default time you were supposed to be there at?

Give it a rest, you guys fucking suck. Own up to it.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 21:03:09
June 01 2009 21:01 GMT
#952
Laurent, I don't lie. I don't give a fuck, I'm going to tell it how it fucking is. Why don't u be so fucking kind to everyone to post what I had in my fucking walkover submission you fucking lying piece of shit. I hope you fucking die. Your interactions with people should be shaped by who you are dealing with; don't give yourself more credit than you deserve.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 01 2009 21:04 GMT
#953
Machinehead, stop dude. You can't make a case anywhere if your banned from the only forum were wcg admins are actively responding. Use your brain man.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 21:06:47
June 01 2009 21:05 GMT
#954
Where did I say you lied?

I'll be more than happy to post all your support tickets if you like.

You're right, look at yourself, look at who I'm dealing with. You cant control yourself.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
June 01 2009 21:09 GMT
#955
Hey MachineHead. Why so angry? It's not like you have a real shot anyways so just calm the fuck down. Shit, do you realize how many better players then you or me or timestop or lastshadow or this name or that name are left that want to qualify?

Why the fuck is Carom3D even being post on a STARCRAFT WEBSITE. WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT CAROM? Are you SERIOUSLY going to brag to all your SC friends about that? Jesus H. Christ. And just so you know, I'm in the Carom3D and I've gotten an email every week, so maybe check to make sure you don't have WCG blocked or you know, check your email or actually DO something and stop expecting people to fucking mouth feed you everything. Jesus. You make nerds everywhere look bad with the way you act all the fucking time, causing a drama storm over the littlest shit.

The only shit I see every tournament is from YOU and I am so fucking tired of reading it. Now I expect you to go off on some sort of tirade saying like "omg you don't understand me. omg wcg is so bad. omg i check my emails. omg I do everything perfect." Ok. You know what. GROW. THE. FUCK. UP. Life right now is shitting on you and you still haven't learned to just go. When you see life shitting on you go: "Aw shit. It's shitting again." and just fucking MOVE on. Timestop did very well in this approach despite getting shafted. He took it like a man and MOVED on. And you know what. People responded BETTER to that then to what you do every fucking 5 minutes.

So please. MachineHead. JUST MOVE ON AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT QUALIFIER. You HAVE made some very valid statements but I am just TIRED of your attitude.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 21:11:09
June 01 2009 21:10 GMT
#956
This is exactly what I'm talking about. "Where did I say you lied?" Says the guy that gives me shit for "wrongfully taking a walkover" when I was asking him to rectify the situation and reschedule the match. Now why would someone tell me what I did was "messed up" and that I prob should have been disqualified if they didn't think I was lying? So what you have just told me is that you don't make any sense. Can I get a competent admin, please.

And after I say, "please post my walkover submission," he tries to change the subject by referring to support tickets where I give him shit for not doing his job. Wow, man, so fucking professional you are.
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States100 Posts
June 01 2009 21:14 GMT
#957
Glostik can you arrange the brackets so I can somehow post the results? I can't report games for the other players.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
June 01 2009 21:14 GMT
#958
It's hard to be outraged if you continue to get eliminated early from tournaments, so you don't have to put up with this "circus." Probability of winning a tourney and having a fair tourney are not relevant. If I don't try to take a stand in addressing this problem now, later on a big name might get screwed over and then you will say "I wish this wouldn't have happened."
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
June 01 2009 21:18 GMT
#959
On June 02 2009 06:09 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Why the fuck is Carom3D even being post on a STARCRAFT WEBSITE. WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT CAROM? Are you SERIOUSLY going to brag to all your SC friends about that? Jesus H. Christ. And just so you know, I'm in the Carom3D and I've gotten an email every week, so maybe check to make sure you don't have WCG blocked or you know, check your email or actually DO something and stop expecting people to fucking mouth feed you everything. Jesus. You make nerds everywhere look bad with the way you act all the fucking time, causing a drama storm over the littlest shit.


The Carom3D post was mine, not MachineHead. I figured I would bring it up as an admin was present to ask (I'm too lazy to do a ticket since I'm doing it mostly for fun). No, they don't go to my junk folder, and I do get the initial "Event Registration Confirmation" email just fine without problem.

Laurent - thanks for answering my questions.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 01 2009 21:19 GMT
#960
Nyoken,

Its all fixed for you.

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