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Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 01 2009 21:24 GMT
#961
You're clearly reading between the lines and completely ignoring whats being said.

You did report a W.O. - You asked to rectify the situation after the fact. The fact that you reported a W.O. is the messed up part. (Based on the facts of the situation). Reporting false scores is one way to get disqualified. And just because you tried to rectify it after the fact, doesnt change that you did it in the first place.

I didnt change any subject, you asked for me to post your walkover submission which i promptly responded I would if you wanted.


Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 21:27:32
June 01 2009 21:27 GMT
#962
Laurent, thanks for at least being involved here. It shows that you care for the community. In the past I really didn't like how u handled things, but maybe I was wrong. It seems that here your at least talking to us, and not just saying "WCG says this do as I say fool". So for this effort I say thanks. Machinehead, if this means that much to you, maybe you should take a look at your life. I'd be the LAST person in the world to tell someone to not make SC their life. But you're getting even more worked up then Idra.. and thats saying something! (p.s. go greg)
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
June 01 2009 21:31 GMT
#963
Machinehead is banned, let's not follow his example please. We can obviously settle our differences without resorting to what he did.
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machine_head
Profile Joined June 2009
1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 21:42:04
June 01 2009 21:40 GMT
#964
Mod Edit: You don't get to talk here any more.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 01 2009 22:07 GMT
#965
just read this whole thread straight through
3.5/5 stars, there was a lot of action but many of the villains were 2 dimensional
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
June 01 2009 22:40 GMT
#966
On June 02 2009 07:07 anderoo wrote:
just read this whole thread straight through
3.5/5 stars, there was a lot of action but many of the villains were 2 dimensional


ahahahahahaha.

Glad to see it's fixed.

Sorry for bringing the bracket up, I didn't know the one I referenced was a mistake.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-02 00:33:00
June 02 2009 00:17 GMT
#967
On June 01 2009 23:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2009 15:27 motbob wrote:
On June 01 2009 15:24 Louder wrote:
On June 01 2009 12:31 MachineHead wrote:
Lol, "bring my wisdom to this." Grab a dictionary man, there was NOTHING insightful about that. Going by the competition guide, I should have showed up on this Monday and ignored what the brackets said (Tuesday for the first round). Lz gamer, man of wisdom, shows up to tourneys that he hasn't been designated an opponent. Perhaps I should have told my non existent opponent what time he would like to play, but figuring he is non existent -- hard to get much out of him. I would blame that guy... my non existent opponent. Don't insult the word "wisdom."


Quit being a bitch. Have you even had to beat anyone yet or have you just had walkovers all the way to the final 4? Shut the fuck up and realize you'd never beat chosen or nyoken anyway, that you are a fucking asshole and no one likes you, and that you're bad at Starcraft, and just go away.

You should be banned for this post.

EDIT: temp banned


we don't ban people in wcg usa threads (except jessgill but wooooow)

+ Show Spoiler +
yes machinehead that means i shouldn't have banned you i'm sorrrrrrryyyyyyy even if i disagree with your actions & explanation the same rules gotta apply to everybody in this here thread


I just checked back and he's banned, what the fuck

let me go read what's happened

edit: given the circumstances, I feel pretty strongly that machinehead's ban should at the very most be temporary. This whole thing has been very poorly run from the very beginning, and it's not fair to isolate a single person and ban them when they get upset about it. It's not like machinehead is any more or less at fault here than anyone else, especially since there was a HUGE shitstorm when he did the exact same thing to idra that nyoken and chosen just did to him. There is definitely favoritism/double standards going on here.

I'm "nobody" in this community but it's pretty obvious that this whole thing has been poorly handled by everyone involved. Banning a single person does nothing to resolve the underlying issue. I would like to think that admins/moderators at teamliquid would do their best to resolve the situation rather than merely reacting after it gets out of hand. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case here.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 02 2009 00:34 GMT
#968
He should be banned because he has a crap personality, can't speak without slandering and overall isn't that bright. He doesn't belong on teamliquid because he isn't good enough.

Why should teamliquid lower its standards because wcg isn't run well. A crap poster is a crap poster regardless.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
June 02 2009 00:43 GMT
#969
On June 02 2009 09:34 AttackZerg wrote:
He should be banned because he has a crap personality, can't speak without slandering and overall isn't that bright. He doesn't belong on teamliquid because he isn't good enough.

Why should teamliquid lower its standards because wcg isn't run well. A crap poster is a crap poster regardless.

That's a bullshit after-the-fact justification, seriously. His tone was strained but just fine until the double standards and favoritism became clear, and people were writing posts like

Quit being a bitch. Have you even had to beat anyone yet or have you just had walkovers all the way to the final 4? Shut the fuck up and realize you'd never beat chosen or nyoken anyway, that you are a fucking asshole and no one likes you, and that you're bad at Starcraft, and just go away.
and the issue still hadn't been resolved. Unless you're banning everyone who was posting shit like this, no one should be banned at all.

And banning him and only him certainly doesn't lead to resolution of any kind.
Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
June 02 2009 00:50 GMT
#970
Integral we all understand your a machinehead fanboy. Seriously if you have read all his posts you'd understand why there was a ban on him. Everything he said was poorly said, he didn't follow TL rules. And chill brought down the woopin stick.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
June 02 2009 00:56 GMT
#971
On June 02 2009 09:50 Excello.ChOseN wrote:
Integral we all understand your a machinehead fanboy. Seriously if you have read all his posts you'd understand why there was a ban on him. Everything he said was poorly said, he didn't follow TL rules. And chill brought down the woopin stick.

Pointing out unfairness doesn't make me a fanboy, I don't even know who the hell machinehead is or what race he plays. Everyone involved has handled this poorly, not just him. Banning someone from talking does nothing to resolve a conflict, especially when there is obviously fault in more than one place.
wcgadminsaregreat
Profile Joined June 2009
26 Posts
June 02 2009 01:04 GMT
#972
This is Machine. You guys were so quick to ban me the first time around, and then you guys apologized... now it happens again, so let's hope this is my fault and that the same mistake was not made. But with that said, I'm not a forum person, I don't really care whether or not I'm capable of posting on this forum; I'm only posting due to WCG, and since there have been problems, how could what I say not reflect that? Perhaps I should lose earlier in tourneys so I don't have to encounter this...

I don't want to avoid the ban, but this is so ridiculous when the people that didn't even abuse can take the blame... I didn't even show up for anything...

The only reason this fraudulent tourney is becoming official is due to the admin not wanting to have to admit to failing his job; the guy didn't make the final brackets, nor did he did show up at the "default time." The players are supposed to show up at this time, but not the admin? It's the final 4 for crying out loud, the last day of the tourney...

I'm deff not here to make friends, so I don't care what you think of me. It just pains me that so many of you are quick to side with "big names" or "authority figures," and ignoring the cold hard facts. It's not as if what I'm saying can't be proved. You guys are just lazy...

Future's lengthy post was about as dead on as it gets. If you read that and you think I should be taking the blame as opposed to someone like Chosen, how could you not be "slandered." That's ridiculous, and I'm sure you guys are aware of that. But... it is a lot easier to jump on the bandwagon. I hope the wheels don't fall of it again, though.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 02 2009 01:04 GMT
#973
tl commandments 1 and 6 pretty much describe why machinehead got banned but some others didn't

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 02 2009 01:08 GMT
#974
[QUOTE]On June 02 2009 09:43 integral wrote:
That's a bullshit after-the-fact justification, seriously. His tone was strained but just fine until the double standards and favoritism became clear, and people were writing posts like [quote].[/QUOTE]


LOL.

Or they are facts. He has been involved in all of the conflicts at wcg this year (big surprise) and acts ... like he does. Teamliquid is not the home for all wcg complaints, he can still seek out the worldcybergames webpage for further resolution, coming here and attacking the admin the way he did was wrong and not tolerated.

You aren't going to get him unbanned with your 'appeals to reason'. Its over.
gettodaroflchoppa
Profile Joined May 2009
104 Posts
June 02 2009 01:13 GMT
#975
It seems ironic every fact you've given has been owned by real facts. Short of saying wcg admins are incompetent (which is/was? a fact) your lies mean shit.
wcgadminsaregreat
Profile Joined June 2009
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-02 01:17:29
June 02 2009 01:16 GMT
#976
The only person I will apologize to is Chill. I have gathered from watching his streams that he is a mannered and just an overall good guy. I think I assessed the situation correctly, but maybe I didn't. Either way, I should have handled myself more properly due to him being the respected person he is. I really didn't mean to come off bad mannered, I was simply trying to say "don't bs me..."

Guys, you don't have to unban me -- if I don't have to defend myself from something -- I'm not likely to post. I try to only post when I am called to do so...

I am 100% confident that if WCG is a top- notch organization and if they don't have a policy of "we can do no wrong," then there will be changes. Be it about the results of this tourney, or how the future tourneys are ran.

The only thing I have learned from this forum is to make sure you bring friends with you... I'm here to talk about the logistics of the situation, not who has more supporters...

It would be nice if Day could be a player/admin, as there are few people who I respect more, and I have confidence in him to assess the situation properly.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-02 01:22:53
June 02 2009 01:20 GMT
#977
Addressing AttackZerg:
Calling your opinion "fact" doesn't make it any more or less true.

I'm not trying to get anyone unbanned, merely pointing that so far all of this reflects poorly on everyone involved and that banning machinehead didn't resolve anything. Obviously teamliquid isn't the place for this kind of drama, but once it's here and in the main thread where people like me go to read results, I would hope that the people involved and the moderators here at TL would actively seek resolution rather than letting the problem get to a point where people are so frustrated they start flaming. It's pretty hard to support USA starcraft when there's so much bad blood and drama between the most skilled players.

I've voiced my concern.
wcgadminsaregreat
Profile Joined June 2009
26 Posts
June 02 2009 01:25 GMT
#978
There is no way any of you are going to prove an allegation of mine to be false, so I encourage you to try...

I said we didn't have an official time, nor an opponent in "my matches" (what we use).
I said we couldn't determine the final 4 brackets till they were made. (Laurent just came on to cover his ass by saying it was a mistake in the past when they changed the brackets). Even with that said, that does not make this fraudulent tourney permissible. I knew about the order of those brackets before today, so the only reason I would even consider showing up is if I knew there was a mistake...

You guys don't have a vested interested, so I don't expect your knowledge of this situation to be vast enough to make determinations. But, please -- you guys are wrong if not siding with me -- so at least stop the bandwagoning shit.

If I'm wrong about anything I've said regarding WCG, just prove it then.


Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-02 01:44:29
June 02 2009 01:42 GMT
#979
okay lets clear some things up regarding to moderation (and despite how I address this post, it's more targeted towards integral or others who question it than you ;p )

you were initially banned for something unrelated to your posting here. this sparked some decision and moderators were not fully in agreement with eachother, and it was decided that you'd be unbanned. now however, you were banned for how you conduct yourself on these very forums - absolutely horrible over the past pages. you can't expect to be allowed to make posts like "Laurent, I don't lie. I don't give a fuck, I'm going to tell it how it fucking is. Why don't u be so fucking kind to everyone to post what I had in my fucking walkover submission you fucking lying piece of shit. I hope you fucking die."..

I understand that you're angry but this kind of shit is just entirely counterproductive to your case - I was originally kinda supportive of you honestly, I thought you did something slightly wrong but not at all worthy of crucifiction, but now I find it more likely that you're just full of shit because you act like someone who is. take the opportunity being banned gives you to calm down.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 02 2009 01:45 GMT
#980
you're a pretty good guy machinehead
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