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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 05:54:48
February 15 2009 05:54 GMT
#221
On February 15 2009 14:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 14:50 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:44 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:43 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:39 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:38 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:36 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:34 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:30 Fontong wrote:
[quote]
Well, there was the part where he had a probe at 5. Which got sniped. But I guess that was just there for scouting right? I mean really, hyvaa might have proxyed a hatch there!

Then there was the nexus going up at 6, which got killed my hydras. But yeah, that was just for show right?

that makes no sense at all

if a toss wants to macro up you think he'd stop and change the whole game plan cus 1 probe got sniped? Or if his "3rd was under attack" he wouldn't move in to defend/rebuild it? Instead he spent all his mins on units and went on the attack, and then continued to reinforce it.

so let me ask you again, what 3rd are you talking about?

??

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. This quote chain is based off of "there was no "getting a 3rd in time" cus he never tried to"

I just said he tried to.

What part of your 60 IQ brain cannot understand this?

so why didnt he? cus his 1 probe got sniped?

oh jesus talk about being a blind deaf mute

If reach did not try to take a third.

then why was there ever a nexus going up at 6?

what are you talking about? I didn't see it

and why would he put his 3rd at that spot? Any pro would know that the corner expo's the spot where it can be defended

Check the results section of the OP.

hey guess what

reach lost


you truly are obtuse

and he changed his team logo to samsung khan from estro for god knows what reason.

wtf, how's that any of your business?

and that was weeks ago!?

anyone who saw the game can clearly tell in reach's play that he wasn't gonna get that base, he just kept pushing out units
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 15 2009 05:54 GMT
#222
^^Hey theres a cool poll in the OP! Have you voted yet?
[ＳＥＣＲＥＴ ＦＯＮＴ] "Dragoon bunker"
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
February 15 2009 05:54 GMT
#223
On February 15 2009 14:47 inertinept wrote:
replay shows, that oversky coulda won that easily.. all he had to do was keep sniping drones @ hyvaa's main. he didnt even have a spire up yet.


Its really not that simple... the spores mean that he can't do that, since hyvaa is mass-drone/linging, so he will have A LOT of lings very quickly on 2 bases. Keep in mind he is on 2 bases, so he can just pump drones from his other hatch, which Oversky can't afford to do. Also, as we saw, lings > mutas when it comes to mobility, so Oversky needed his mutas in his main to help defend his drones which were obviously going to be attacked (you don't just sit there once you get a ton of lings...)

That game that hyvaa played is about the only way to reliably beat 12pool/fast tech (9pool tech speed) with 12hatch. I've seen 12hatch beat 9pool using that build...
RIP eSTRO :(
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 05:56:36
February 15 2009 05:56 GMT
#224
On February 15 2009 14:54 Fontong wrote:
^^Hey theres a cool poll in the OP! Have you voted yet?


hehe that's nice

won't change the fact that reach got his pipe cleaned out
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 05:58:23
February 15 2009 05:56 GMT
#225
On February 15 2009 14:54 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 14:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:50 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:44 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:43 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:39 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:38 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:36 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:34 .risingdragoon wrote:
[quote]
that makes no sense at all

if a toss wants to macro up you think he'd stop and change the whole game plan cus 1 probe got sniped? Or if his "3rd was under attack" he wouldn't move in to defend/rebuild it? Instead he spent all his mins on units and went on the attack, and then continued to reinforce it.

so let me ask you again, what 3rd are you talking about?

??

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. This quote chain is based off of "there was no "getting a 3rd in time" cus he never tried to"

I just said he tried to.

What part of your 60 IQ brain cannot understand this?

so why didnt he? cus his 1 probe got sniped?

oh jesus talk about being a blind deaf mute

If reach did not try to take a third.

then why was there ever a nexus going up at 6?

what are you talking about? I didn't see it

and why would he put his 3rd at that spot? Any pro would know that the corner expo's the spot where it can be defended

Check the results section of the OP.

hey guess what

reach lost


you truly are obtuse

and he changed his team logo to samsung khan from estro for god knows what reason.

wtf, how's that any of your business?

and that was weeks ago!?

anyone who saw the game can clearly tell in reach's play that he wasn't gonna get that base, he just kept pushing out units

That was, less than ten minutes ago.
It shows your maturity since you stated that Reach didn't try to take a 3rd even though he placed a nexus and your refusal to accept that.
Jaedong
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 15 2009 05:56 GMT
#226
On February 15 2009 14:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 14:44 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:43 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:39 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:38 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:36 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:34 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:30 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:27 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:25 Fontong wrote:
[quote]
Uh yes he did.

lol with what?

if he was going for lategame macro then why did he attack the zerg nat instead of protecting his nonexistent 3rd?

Well, there was the part where he had a probe at 5. Which got sniped. But I guess that was just there for scouting right? I mean really, hyvaa might have proxyed a hatch there!

Then there was the nexus going up at 6, which got killed my hydras. But yeah, that was just for show right?

that makes no sense at all

if a toss wants to macro up you think he'd stop and change the whole game plan cus 1 probe got sniped? Or if his "3rd was under attack" he wouldn't move in to defend/rebuild it? Instead he spent all his mins on units and went on the attack, and then continued to reinforce it.

so let me ask you again, what 3rd are you talking about?

??

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. This quote chain is based off of "there was no "getting a 3rd in time" cus he never tried to"

I just said he tried to.

What part of your 60 IQ brain cannot understand this?

so why didnt he? cus his 1 probe got sniped?

oh jesus talk about being a blind deaf mute

If reach did not try to take a third.

then why was there ever a nexus going up at 6?

what are you talking about? I didn't see it

and why would he put his 3rd at that spot? Any pro would know that the corner expo's the spot where it can be defended

Check the results section of the OP.

hey guess what

reach lost, oversky too

take ur ace fanboism with you to ace's grave


ugh, wtf? You gotta respect ACE no matter what team you like.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
February 15 2009 05:57 GMT
#227
On February 15 2009 14:54 KnightOfNi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 14:47 inertinept wrote:
replay shows, that oversky coulda won that easily.. all he had to do was keep sniping drones @ hyvaa's main. he didnt even have a spire up yet.


Its really not that simple... the spores mean that he can't do that, since hyvaa is mass-drone/linging, so he will have A LOT of lings very quickly on 2 bases. Keep in mind he is on 2 bases, so he can just pump drones from his other hatch, which Oversky can't afford to do. Also, as we saw, lings > mutas when it comes to mobility, so Oversky needed his mutas in his main to help defend his drones which were obviously going to be attacked (you don't just sit there once you get a ton of lings...)

That game that hyvaa played is about the only way to reliably beat 12pool/fast tech (9pool tech speed) with 12hatch. I've seen 12hatch beat 9pool using that build...

Also, Jaedong could probably pull it off, but Oversky's muta micro is really bad as far as sniping goes. He played a game against I think Shine where he was in an even more favorable situation as far as the defenses in the main went and he failed to do any damage.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 15 2009 05:58 GMT
#228
Sorry risingdragoon. I got confused. My apologies.
Jaedong
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 06:00:01
February 15 2009 05:59 GMT
#229
On February 15 2009 14:56 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 14:54 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:50 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:44 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:43 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:39 Fontong wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:38 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 15 2009 14:36 Fontong wrote:
[quote]
??

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. This quote chain is based off of "there was no "getting a 3rd in time" cus he never tried to"

I just said he tried to.

What part of your 60 IQ brain cannot understand this?

so why didnt he? cus his 1 probe got sniped?

oh jesus talk about being a blind deaf mute

If reach did not try to take a third.

then why was there ever a nexus going up at 6?

what are you talking about? I didn't see it

and why would he put his 3rd at that spot? Any pro would know that the corner expo's the spot where it can be defended

Check the results section of the OP.

hey guess what

reach lost


you truly are obtuse

and he changed his team logo to samsung khan from estro for god knows what reason.

wtf, how's that any of your business?

and that was weeks ago!?

anyone who saw the game can clearly tell in reach's play that he wasn't gonna get that base, he just kept pushing out units

That was, less than ten minutes ago.
It shows your maturity since you stated that Reach didn't try to take a 3rd even though he placed a nexus and your refusal to accept that. You also call Fontong out as a fanboy so you change your team to avoid a similar rebuttal.


I'll say this 1 time, I changed it before winnersleague even started

I called it out "3rd not in time" clearly it never happened that way if you saw the game. with that much reinforcement there was no "taking a 3rd" much less having it be in a state to be "almost up"

don't hop the wagon
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 15 2009 06:00 GMT
#230
Anytime has good probe harass. He delayed the 3rd hatch significantly.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 15 2009 06:03 GMT
#231
Anytime is going sair/reaver while Hyvaa went with a quick spire for fast scourges.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:03 GMT
#232
hyvaa powering HARD. has 6 hatches already by the time anytime's 2nd sair is out. Spire up.

looks like reaver/sair for anytime...could either be a long game or erally short
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 15 2009 06:06 GMT
#233
On February 15 2009 14:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Sorry risingdragoon. I got confused. My apologies.

repost in case you missed it.
Jaedong
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:06 GMT
#234
yea its gonna be a long one.

hyvaa cleverly gets burrow to nullify any reaver harass without the backup of obs. which will probably be sniped.

AND ANYTIME DROPS 2 REAVERS RIGHT AT HIS NAT WITH ZEALOT BACKUP

does a bit of damage but is fended off
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:06 GMT
#235
zealots harassing 3rd
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 15 2009 06:07 GMT
#236
wowoww Anytime is merciless!
[ＳＥＣＲＥＴ ＦＯＮＴ] "Dragoon bunker"
ExaltedElegance
Profile Joined December 2008
United States81 Posts
February 15 2009 06:08 GMT
#237
Zealots take down the third. Hyvaa' s knocking on Anytime's natural door but is turned away by a Reaver.
True beauty is micro in Starcraft.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:08 GMT
#238
anytime doing a great job of multi-attacking and keeping hyvaa's hydras moving. attacks nat then rushes third with zealots again. takes down 3rd.


hydras harassing anytime's min only with cliff hax
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:09 GMT
#239
anytime finally starting to make mistakes loses many units carelessly
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
February 15 2009 06:10 GMT
#240
huge hydra break on anytime's nat
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
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