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RivetHead
Profile Joined March 2005
United States842 Posts
January 28 2009 11:05 GMT
#1141
On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.


Thats why I was hoping all the zergs would get knocked out. I knew if it was pvp and pvt bisu would get through with a high probability.
I *heart* bisu, nada, mind, and the lakers
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
January 28 2009 11:05 GMT
#1142
when boxer/oov/savior/bisu/JAAEEEDOOONG/ loses, there is always an excuse don't make it look like it only happens with bisu
Terran & Potato Salad.
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
January 28 2009 11:05 GMT
#1143
If you don't like the way people act just ignore them. Same way you ignore a crying kid on a plane, no matter how bad you wanna throw that fucker into an engine.

Either way, IMO it's better to just respect peoples right to cheer for their favorite player. I personally have a strong dislike for Flash. But if I'm in a thread and Flash is kicking ass, I don't put anyone down regardless of how annoying his fanboys get.

Regardless of how much hate Bisu gets, and regardless of how much he deserves, it's just the more adult thing to do. The foreign SC community is too small for people to hate on each other just because they have different views of players.
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 28 2009 11:06 GMT
#1144
On January 28 2009 20:04 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did

Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it


Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection

But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different.


What reason is that?


Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few.

1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc)
2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea)
3) Hypocrite
4) The most well-known League Breaker
5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS)
6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do"
7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)

etc etc

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days.

I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad.

Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch

But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.




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look, this is you, u seem pretty flexible, but i cant believe that u could fit so much stuff in there.
good job on pulling it all out, seriously. tell me more about his terrible fanbase and how he is a hypocrite


[image loading]


look, this is you, u seem pretty blind, but i cant believe u cant read engrish. Good job getting a competent job, seriously. tell me more of your reading comprehension
dats racist
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
January 28 2009 11:06 GMT
#1145
On January 28 2009 20:04 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did

Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it


Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection

But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different.


What reason is that?


Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few.

1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc)
2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea)
3) Hypocrite
4) The most well-known League Breaker
5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS)
6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do"
7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)

etc etc

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days.

I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad.

Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch

But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.




look, this is you, u seem pretty flexible, but i cant believe that u could fit so much stuff in there.
good job on pulling it all out, seriously. tell me more about his terrible fanbase and how he is a hypocrite


And i hope you enjoy disney land for a few days, gj
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-28 11:08:04
January 28 2009 11:06 GMT
#1146
On January 28 2009 20:04 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did

Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it


Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection

But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different.


What reason is that?


Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few.

1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc)
2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea)
3) Hypocrite
4) The most well-known League Breaker
5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS)
6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do"
7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)

etc etc

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days.

I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad.

Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch

But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.




[image loading]



look, this is you, u seem pretty flexible, but i cant believe that u could fit so much stuff in there.
good job on pulling it all out, seriously. tell me more about his terrible fanbase and how he is a hypocrite
wow you are a horrible poster.

someone asks why bisu is not necessarily the most loved player by the korean community and mrhoon gives you reasons why many korean starcraft fans don't like bisu. would you like to go try and read korean boards and translate this stuff for the rest of the community?

and this is what you post?

he even said "seriously there is nothing wrong with bisu" and "I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time."

what the hell is your problem?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 28 2009 11:06 GMT
#1147
On January 28 2009 20:03 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.

Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.

God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run).
<3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said
Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[


me too :/

I still remember reading the LR match vs Xellos and it literally came down to a drop vs drop situation where Xellos' vulture drop was THIS close to ending the game.

Anytime makes it to the finals and literally out of no where a billion protozombies crawl out of the TL.net soil.

and here it is with Bisu again. God I hate you people
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
January 28 2009 11:06 GMT
#1148
On January 28 2009 20:05 Choros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.

Zergs have finally learned how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Bisu build and cosair dt/ cosair reaver play. If you ask me I think protoss needs to learn how to do one base strats against Zerg again and mix it up with FE builds..

this
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
January 28 2009 11:07 GMT
#1149
Difference between Rock and Bisu: when Bisu is being pushed by 2 facs, he builds 2 additional gateways which win game for him. Rock in the same situation builds pylon and two shield batteries.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
January 28 2009 11:07 GMT
#1150
There are a lot of shitty posts coming out of the woodworks tonight.

Congrats to Bisu in any regard.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 28 2009 11:08 GMT
#1151
On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did

Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it


Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection

But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different.


What reason is that?


Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few.

1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc)
2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea)
3) Hypocrite
4) The most well-known League Breaker
5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS)
6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do"
7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)

etc etc

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days.

I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad.

Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch

But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.


lol, some of those things are HILARIOUS.

Thanks for explaining
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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-28 11:10:15
January 28 2009 11:08 GMT
#1152
Btw, T1 antifans better prepare themselves for the worst, because the holy trinity Best/Bisu/Fantasy is now into the OSL and is probably going to rape shit up until the later stages.
Choros
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia530 Posts
January 28 2009 11:08 GMT
#1153
On January 28 2009 20:06 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:05 Choros wrote:
On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.

Zergs have finally learned how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Bisu build and cosair dt/ cosair reaver play. If you ask me I think protoss needs to learn how to do one base strats against Zerg again and mix it up with FE builds..

this

Which reminds me of another reason I hate Bisu he said that one base strats were impossible against Zerg in a recent interview.
NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
January 28 2009 11:08 GMT
#1154
On January 28 2009 20:00 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:59 NahLGaE wrote:
gg

Please don't make comments like this before it happens.... it's very frustrating on the people who can't watch and don't know if it's just you thinking the game will be over because of some cool play or if it is actually over because someone typed out.

edit: actually I suppose this was real... but I see too many instances of people saying GG in the live report threads before the game is over (and sometimes before it is anywhere close to being over). It's just very aggravating.


i said this after it was typed in game? and im watching yy which is known to have a lag from the live stream so i thought this wasnt a problem? also it seems pretty customary for ppl to post gg when it actually happens. i was like the last person there to even say that geez
마재윤.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-28 11:16:27
January 28 2009 11:09 GMT
#1155
On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.

Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.

God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run).


Umm i don't get it how was Anytime fortunate ? Did he get to play in a wildcard round or something after he was officialy eliminated like Bisu or something ? Bisu is the lucky one here but he does deserve it more because he demolished the opposition this round ...

On January 28 2009 20:08 Matoo- wrote:
Btw, T1 antifans better brace themselves up because the holy trinity Best/Bisu/Fantasy is now into the OSL.


Only to get swept by Stork again . Anyway with Bisu in the OSL all the races seem pretty balanced so it should be good .
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
January 28 2009 11:10 GMT
#1156
On January 28 2009 20:05 Choros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.

Zergs have finally learned how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Bisu build and cosair dt/ cosair reaver play. If you ask me I think protoss needs to learn how to do one base strats against Zerg again and mix it up with FE builds..

I think zerg players finally evolved, giving up the useless early muta harass and making spire just to deny with scourges the first sairs and shuttle. having many scourges around the map is really the key to deflect bisu's style. he almost totally gave up his storm drops because zerg players in general improved map control big time
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-28 11:10:46
January 28 2009 11:10 GMT
#1157
On January 28 2009 20:04 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:
On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did

Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it


Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection

But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different.


What reason is that?


Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few.

1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc)
2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea)
3) Hypocrite
4) The most well-known League Breaker
5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS)
6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do"
7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)

etc etc

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days.

I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad.

Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch

But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.




look, this is you, u seem pretty flexible, but i cant believe that u could fit so much stuff in there.
good job on pulling it all out, seriously. tell me more about his terrible fanbase and how he is a hypocrite


no
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
wtflah
Profile Joined October 2008
United States92 Posts
January 28 2009 11:10 GMT
#1158
hooray my fantasy team is back to 5/5
RivetHead
Profile Joined March 2005
United States842 Posts
January 28 2009 11:11 GMT
#1159
On January 28 2009 20:06 isbunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:05 Choros wrote:
On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.

Zergs have finally learned how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Bisu build and cosair dt/ cosair reaver play. If you ask me I think protoss needs to learn how to do one base strats against Zerg again and mix it up with FE builds..

this


I'm thinking maybe more protoss should go heavier ground army, more like how Kal does it, instead of getting sairs and early reaver/dt tech. Or switch it up. A good ol' fashion cheese is always nice to see, but most tosses go standard nowadays. The biggest problem is that bisu is being predicable, kind of like how flash was with the early ccs. Its not necessarily the build itself, just the fact that he has to recognize the counter and somehow come up with a counter for that.
I *heart* bisu, nada, mind, and the lakers
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
January 28 2009 11:11 GMT
#1160
On January 28 2009 20:06 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2009 20:03 Plexa wrote:
On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.

Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.

God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run).
<3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said
Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[


me too :/

I still remember reading the LR match vs Xellos and it literally came down to a drop vs drop situation where Xellos' vulture drop was THIS close to ending the game.

Anytime makes it to the finals and literally out of no where a billion protozombies crawl out of the TL.net soil.

and here it is with Bisu again. God I hate you people

1. Bisu isn´t exactly a one-starleague-wonder like Anytime.
2. Anytime showed during several proleague seasons that he is a much more consistent player than Casy or Sync, other one-starleague-wonders.
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