[OSL] Wildcard - Page 69

On January 27 2009 02:52 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Ro3:

Mind < Bisu

Bisu is no longer the PvT suxxor we once knew and loved. He is now the bonjwa canidate. With recent wins over Terran GODS such as Flash, Skyhigh and Flash, I hope he can roll over Mind.

Light < Bisu

.....Mind > Light...and Bisu > Mind..need i say more?

In the event that doesn't happen...

Mind > Light

Light is a TvZ sniper, and his TvT is ..ok? Predicting that Mind will run him over.


fuck that..
still expecting Bisu to advance

On January 28 2009 23:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


there is no possible solution that is more fair

backho cannot compete in this OSL. what would you have OGN do? go back in time and rough up some of the scrubs in previous OSLs? Give Flash another shot at his round of 8 series against GGPlay? How much sense does that make?

backho's injury was a freak occurence, and this is by far the best possible solution. nothing you said makes any sense

On January 29 2009 22:20 dmfg wrote:


Before I say anything else, I'll point out that given that the choice by OGN to hold a Wildcard tourney, Bisu re-qualifying for OSL was entirely deserved, going 6-0 against some pretty tough opponents.

However I am massively against the choice of doing a wildcard. Of course there's a solution that's more fair. Do what every other sport does in this situation - if you pull out of a match for any reason, you forfeit the match. Therefore Backho's opponent in ro16 should have got a walkover IMO.

I mean the whole point of OSL is that it's pretty brutal in terms of going out - anyone can go out at any stage (whether by playing poorly for a moment, or just from dumb luck), even if on average they're a far superior player to their opponent. If we wanted to make it fair why not just award the OSL to the best player at any time? Or play a Swiss format? Or play bo15 matches from the start? (Hyperbole to make a point - not serious suggestions)

Freak occurrences do happen, but IMO they should all be treated the same. Whether that freak occurrence is getting injured, Bisu going 0-2 against zergs he should beat, Flash getting massively complacent against GGplay or whatever. People start in the tournament, and they can only go out, not back in. That's why this is an elimination tournament, not a league.

On January 29 2009 22:20 dmfg wrote:


Before I say anything else, I'll point out that given that the choice by OGN to hold a Wildcard tourney, Bisu re-qualifying for OSL was entirely deserved, going 6-0 against some pretty tough opponents.

However I am massively against the choice of doing a wildcard. Of course there's a solution that's more fair. Do what every other sport does in this situation - if you pull out of a match for any reason, you forfeit the match. Therefore Backho's opponent in ro16 should have got a walkover IMO.

I mean the whole point of OSL is that it's pretty brutal in terms of going out - anyone can go out at any stage (whether by playing poorly for a moment, or just from dumb luck), even if on average they're a far superior player to their opponent. If we wanted to make it fair why not just award the OSL to the best player at any time? Or play a Swiss format? Or play bo15 matches from the start? (Hyperbole to make a point - not serious suggestions)

Freak occurrences do happen, but IMO they should all be treated the same. Whether that freak occurrence is getting injured, Bisu going 0-2 against zergs he should beat, Flash getting massively complacent against GGplay or whatever. People start in the tournament, and they can only go out, not back in. That's why this is an elimination tournament, not a league.

On January 29 2009 22:20 dmfg wrote:
However I am massively against the choice of doing a wildcard. Of course there's a solution that's more fair. Do what every other sport does in this situation - if you pull out of a match for any reason, you forfeit the match. Therefore Backho's opponent in ro16 should have got a walkover IMO.

I mean the whole point of OSL is that it's pretty brutal in terms of going out - anyone can go out at any stage (whether by playing poorly for a moment, or just from dumb luck), even if on average they're a far superior player to their opponent. If we wanted to make it fair why not just award the OSL to the best player at any time? Or play a Swiss format? Or play bo15 matches from the start? (Hyperbole to make a point - not serious suggestions)

Freak occurrences do happen, but IMO they should all be treated the same. Whether that freak occurrence is getting injured, Bisu going 0-2 against zergs he should beat, Flash getting massively complacent against GGplay or whatever. People start in the tournament, and they can only go out, not back in. That's why this is an elimination tournament, not a league.

On January 29 2009 22:20 dmfg wrote:


Before I say anything else, I'll point out that given that the choice by OGN to hold a Wildcard tourney, Bisu re-qualifying for OSL was entirely deserved, going 6-0 against some pretty tough opponents.

However I am massively against the choice of doing a wildcard. Of course there's a solution that's more fair. Do what every other sport does in this situation - if you pull out of a match for any reason, you forfeit the match. Therefore Backho's opponent in ro16 should have got a walkover IMO.

I mean the whole point of OSL is that it's pretty brutal in terms of going out - anyone can go out at any stage (whether by playing poorly for a moment, or just from dumb luck), even if on average they're a far superior player to their opponent. If we wanted to make it fair why not just award the OSL to the best player at any time? Or play a Swiss format? Or play bo15 matches from the start? (Hyperbole to make a point - not serious suggestions)

Freak occurrences do happen, but IMO they should all be treated the same. Whether that freak occurrence is getting injured, Bisu going 0-2 against zergs he should beat, Flash getting massively complacent against GGplay or whatever. People start in the tournament, and they can only go out, not back in. That's why this is an elimination tournament, not a league.

On January 29 2009 23:31 GeLaar wrote:
This would all make sense if the Ro16 group selection had occurred before Backho's injury. As it stands, they are having the selection ceremony tomorrow, and without the wildcard they would've been one player short. This would have made things very unbalanced. They can call it a forfeited game if the next opponentis determined prior to the freak event, otherwise they'll just give someone a huge advantage.

On January 31 2009 03:46 AzureEye wrote:
Dude this rocks, I hope Bisu goes to Finals in OSL or something.

When will we see the lineups?