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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
January 29 2009 00:22 GMT
#1341
On January 29 2009 08:50 Roxen000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 08:45 uppTagg wrote:
Yes!! Go Bisu! ;D


1337 post.


Same to you.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 29 2009 01:47 GMT
#1342
Mind. How incredibly gay that he ended up having to play Bisu on medusa ughhh this world ain't fair.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 29 2009 02:09 GMT
#1343
On January 29 2009 10:47 Frits wrote:
Mind. How incredibly gay that he ended up having to play Bisu on medusa ughhh this world ain't fair.

Mind played Bisu on ROTK.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 29 2009 02:26 GMT
#1344
On January 29 2009 11:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 10:47 Frits wrote:
Mind. How incredibly gay that he ended up having to play Bisu on medusa ughhh this world ain't fair.

Mind played Bisu on ROTK.


Woops my bad you're right I just rechecked the TLPD, dunno how I read that wrong.
magicman
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines54 Posts
January 29 2009 03:13 GMT
#1345
On January 29 2009 03:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
can everyone shut up with the conspiracy theories and the "he didn't deserve it" already

the format was pre-determined before the injury even happened, the same situation happened before in the MSL and they had a similar wildcard tourney. it's the best for OGN (more broadcast games) and fairer to the players (you have to play your way in, instead of just luckbox a group with an injured player like firefist would've done if he got auto-in).

bisu absolutely deserved it, he won the games


GO HOT BIRD.
if you aint first.your last
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 29 2009 03:20 GMT
#1346
On January 29 2009 12:13 magicman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 03:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
can everyone shut up with the conspiracy theories and the "he didn't deserve it" already

the format was pre-determined before the injury even happened, the same situation happened before in the MSL and they had a similar wildcard tourney. it's the best for OGN (more broadcast games) and fairer to the players (you have to play your way in, instead of just luckbox a group with an injured player like firefist would've done if he got auto-in).

bisu absolutely deserved it, he won the games


GO HOT BIRD.

He deserved it in the sense that he was the better player and played well.
He didn't deserve it because he of his recent arrogance-his series vs by.hero, his MSL group selection, and interviews.
Jaedong
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 29 2009 03:24 GMT
#1347
On January 29 2009 12:20 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 12:13 magicman wrote:
On January 29 2009 03:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
can everyone shut up with the conspiracy theories and the "he didn't deserve it" already

the format was pre-determined before the injury even happened, the same situation happened before in the MSL and they had a similar wildcard tourney. it's the best for OGN (more broadcast games) and fairer to the players (you have to play your way in, instead of just luckbox a group with an injured player like firefist would've done if he got auto-in).

bisu absolutely deserved it, he won the games


GO HOT BIRD.

He deserved it in the sense that he was the better player and played well.
He didn't deserve it because he of his recent arrogance-his series vs by.hero, his MSL group selection, and interviews.

Arrogance, the MSL group selection, and interviews, don't have anything to do with how much someone deserves a spot in the OSL or not.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 29 2009 03:37 GMT
#1348
On January 29 2009 12:24 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 12:20 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 29 2009 12:13 magicman wrote:
On January 29 2009 03:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
can everyone shut up with the conspiracy theories and the "he didn't deserve it" already

the format was pre-determined before the injury even happened, the same situation happened before in the MSL and they had a similar wildcard tourney. it's the best for OGN (more broadcast games) and fairer to the players (you have to play your way in, instead of just luckbox a group with an injured player like firefist would've done if he got auto-in).

bisu absolutely deserved it, he won the games


GO HOT BIRD.

He deserved it in the sense that he was the better player and played well.
He didn't deserve it because he of his recent arrogance-his series vs by.hero, his MSL group selection, and interviews.

Arrogance, the MSL group selection, and interviews, don't have anything to do with how much someone deserves a spot in the OSL or not.

Bring arrogant and mindlessly dropping 2 sets to a complete unknown, and not receiving any consequences, that's how the people that say Bisu doesn't deserve a spot see it.

It's a rather trivial argument, any reasonable opinion is correct.
Jaedong
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 29 2009 04:38 GMT
#1349
On January 29 2009 12:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 12:24 Sentenal wrote:
On January 29 2009 12:20 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 29 2009 12:13 magicman wrote:
On January 29 2009 03:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
can everyone shut up with the conspiracy theories and the "he didn't deserve it" already

the format was pre-determined before the injury even happened, the same situation happened before in the MSL and they had a similar wildcard tourney. it's the best for OGN (more broadcast games) and fairer to the players (you have to play your way in, instead of just luckbox a group with an injured player like firefist would've done if he got auto-in).

bisu absolutely deserved it, he won the games


GO HOT BIRD.

He deserved it in the sense that he was the better player and played well.
He didn't deserve it because he of his recent arrogance-his series vs by.hero, his MSL group selection, and interviews.

Arrogance, the MSL group selection, and interviews, don't have anything to do with how much someone deserves a spot in the OSL or not.

Bring arrogant and mindlessly dropping 2 sets to a complete unknown, and not receiving any consequences, that's how the people that say Bisu doesn't deserve a spot see it.

It's a rather trivial argument, any reasonable opinion is correct.

I don't see how he didn't receive any consequences for those losses, though. Hes completely out of the MSL for his bad play. That's a consequence. In the OSL, he had to play basically three Bo3s, all in the same night, against lots of different players and races. If he hadn't played like crap vs by.hero, he wouldn't have had to do that, so that is another consequence of his bad play.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
January 29 2009 05:02 GMT
#1350
I can see an argument that nobody deserved the spot -- they all lost, they should all be eliminated. If BackHo hadn't suffered an injury, Bisu and the rest would not be given a second chance in the tournament.

But BackHo is injured, so the question is more which is worse:
* having the 12 group runners-up compete for his spot, or
* giving BackHo's opponent a free pass to the Ro8

I think avoiding the free pass while it's still feasible is the better choice. The torunament is better off having the top 16 available players compete than it is having the top 15 compete with one lucky player needing to win just one set to get into Ro4 (free pass to next season's OSL) and just two sets to be all the way to the finals. The free win greatly increases the chance that some one-matchup wonder lucks his way into the finals and gets destroyed in an anticlimactic finish.

On the other hand, it would have taken too long to have over 100 players competing for BackHo's spot in the GOM, so they had to just let JangBi take the free win.
Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
January 29 2009 05:16 GMT
#1351
aren't there VOD's available from Ro12?
Smoke weed everyday!
Sylvaner
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada27 Posts
January 29 2009 05:17 GMT
#1352
On January 29 2009 14:02 Signet wrote:
I can see an argument that nobody deserved the spot -- they all lost, they should all be eliminated. If BackHo hadn't suffered an injury, Bisu and the rest would not be given a second chance in the tournament.

But BackHo is injured, so the question is more which is worse:
* having the 12 group runners-up compete for his spot, or
* giving BackHo's opponent a free pass to the Ro8

I think avoiding the free pass while it's still feasible is the better choice. The torunament is better off having the top 16 available players compete than it is having the top 15 compete with one lucky player needing to win just one set to get into Ro4 (free pass to next season's OSL) and just two sets to be all the way to the finals. The free win greatly increases the chance that some one-matchup wonder lucks his way into the finals and gets destroyed in an anticlimactic finish.

On the other hand, it would have taken too long to have over 100 players competing for BackHo's spot in the GOM, so they had to just let JangBi take the free win.


Quoted for truth.

Predictable, but unwanted results. Congratulations to Bisu, I may have not wanted him to win: but there is no point in arguing about him in particular deserving the spot or not.

...

More upset about the 3/6 I got from this.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 29 2009 05:35 GMT
#1353
Wow I can't believe anyone could hate a pro-gamer THIS much.

Get over it, holy shit. I may have pro-gamers that I dislike but I don't PMS and rant all over the place just because they boot out players I like.

Shit, anti-fanboys are worse than fanboys.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
January 29 2009 05:53 GMT
#1354
On January 29 2009 14:35 BanZu wrote:
Wow I can't believe anyone could hate a pro-gamer THIS much.

Get over it, holy shit. I may have pro-gamers that I dislike but I don't PMS and rant all over the place just because they boot out players I like.

Shit, anti-fanboys are worse than fanboys.




EXACTLY
Smoke weed everyday!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 29 2009 06:25 GMT
#1355
People are just upset because that Bisu is now back in the OSL.

They favourite player's chances of winning the OSL went from 1% to 0%.
bisu fanboy
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
January 29 2009 06:42 GMT
#1356
Bisu is a beast. Enough said.
Taek Bang Fighting!
SUSUGAM
Profile Joined November 2007
United States177 Posts
January 29 2009 08:19 GMT
#1357
Oh Taek Yong. How I love thee so. Neojuly can fall just like savior's reign did. Hope you have another revolution in you.
bisufanboi049
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 29 2009 08:58 GMT
#1358
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seriously, stop bitching about Bisu, he won his games, sure he might have been a bit less manered in interviews then other players lately, but its just his damm way of doing them.And dont talk about him like some random guy who offended everyone before games, acted like cock and then luckily qualified.
Once again, fully deserved spot in OSL.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
January 29 2009 09:06 GMT
#1359
honestly, does anyone remember how "confident" Savior was during his prime? I really don't remember this much complaining about his comments as much as with Bisu now.
Taek Bang Fighting!
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
January 29 2009 10:41 GMT
#1360
It's because Bisu plays Protoss. It's okay if a Terran player like FBH is a douche or if Savior is arrogant, but god forbid someone who plays the "easy race" be allowed to win games and have confidence for it.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
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