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On January 28 2009 20:00 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:59 RivetHead wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Ya and protoss lost, lol. Oh? And thats why Nal_ra has the higest vZ elo peak of any protoss?
nal_ra is one protoss player, what about all the other ones ?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 28 2009 20:00 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:59 RivetHead wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Ya and protoss lost, lol. Oh? And thats why Nal_ra has the higest vZ elo peak of any protoss?
the nal_ra who went FE in a shitload of his PvZs way before anyone else? 
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On January 28 2009 20:00 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:59 RivetHead wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Ya and protoss lost, lol. Oh? And thats why Nal_ra has the higest vZ elo peak of any protoss?
plexa beat me to it
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7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason)
I lol'ed
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In my opinion now days Z>P T>>>>Z
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On January 28 2009 20:01 Patrio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:59 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Yeah, back when Z>P. Whats your point? so now its P>Z<T<P?
whats the point of saying this crap like P>z>t><w>y ?
without defining maps and players
-_-
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On January 28 2009 19:59 o3.power91 wrote:
Bisu is now 10-0 in last 10 PvT :D
Also on a 9 game win streak in PvP.
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Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.
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Bisu wins the wildcard slot, as expected.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.
Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.
God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run). <3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said
Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[
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On January 28 2009 20:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:00 Plexa wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 RivetHead wrote:On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Ya and protoss lost, lol. Oh? And thats why Nal_ra has the higest vZ elo peak of any protoss? the nal_ra who went FE in a shitload of his PvZs way before anyone else?
for fuck sake, give daezang some credit for his pvz contributions 
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ohyeah BISU congratulations
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On January 28 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:50 eshlow wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 MrHoon wrote:On January 28 2009 19:46 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
What the hell did Bisu do to earn 8x more hatred than he usually did
Was it that thing with Tears Map, cause that can't be it Reason for Bisu hate on TL is probably because of MSL group selection But the reason why people don't like bisu in Korea is a bit different. What reason is that? Well there are many reasons, but I'll list a few. 1) Fails to deliver when he is expected to deliver (2 MSLs with 3 zergs, GomTV final with Mind etc) 2) He interviews like iloveoov, who was notorious for making shitty interviews (hence the reason why there aren't as many fans of oov than expected in Korea) 3) Hypocrite 4) The most well-known League Breaker 5) Has the absolute worst fanbase in Korea (SOMETHING NEVER CHANGES OVERSEAS) 6) Says stuff like "I can't believe I have to participate in Offline Prelims, thats such an embarrassing thing to do" 7) Having a jew like nose (seriously, I have no idea why this is a reason) etc etc But seriously, there is nothing wrong with Bisu. I am happy he dropped the MSL, but dropping the OSL is kinda overkill you know being kicked around with any competent zerg and all these days. I like Bisu, he amazes me time from time. But his fanbase is so bad. Bisu is like the World of Warcraft of Progaming. Nobody can deny he is the best in the business, hell, hes even fun to watch But his fanbase is so fucking terrible.
![[image loading]](http://www.geetarz.org/funniez/pics/head-up-ass.jpg)
look, this is you, u seem pretty flexible, but i cant believe that u could fit so much stuff in there.
good job on pulling it all out, seriously. tell me more about his terrible fanbase and how he is a hypocrite
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On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.
Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.
God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run).
Eh...I hate to say it but yeahhhh...when Bisu loses there usually is an excuse...
I know I posted a few...
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Matchup all-time records:
* TvZ: 1544-1323 (53.85%)
* ZvP: 982-855 (53.46%)
* PvT: 1120-1072 (51.09%)
around 45% of games won pvz before forge FE, protoss still won games, they didn't lose every fkn game.
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On January 28 2009 19:59 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 19:59 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:56 Sentenal wrote:On January 28 2009 19:53 benjammin wrote:On January 28 2009 19:51 erin[go]bragh wrote:On January 28 2009 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
Now, it's not my place to say if Bisu deserves love/hatred/what have you, but I really did lose respect for him when I read the interview in which he blamed the loss on the map (Tears of the Moon). Really kind of a dumb reason to hate someone if you ask me. He said he lost cause of the map, and he did. Tears is going to be a Protoss graveyard and that's a fact. You could say it's insulting to his opponent or it's bad mannered to not take full responsibility for your loss, but whatever. He could of done the generic "I will practice more and win keke" and no one would have batted an eyelash, but whatever. If people got over Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in what should have been an epic series, they'll get over Bisu. It's just a fad right now. you do realize in the same interview he criticized flash for being stubborn, then blames tears for losing him that game when he just mindlessly fast expanded and got owned? some people might call that being hypocritical Mindlessly fast expanded? Thats like saying if a Terran goes 1fact CC, and then gets owned by something, the Terran "mindlessly went 1fact CC". Forge FE is just how you play PvZ, and Tears of the Moon is an abomination. you do realize pvz existed before the forge FE Yeah, back when Z>P. Whats your point?
Believe it or not, some Protosses had very good records with 1 base strats against z in progaming before FE was popularized. You generalize and act like a retard.
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bisu advances without playing a single zerg. grats i guess = P
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On January 28 2009 20:03 Maenander wrote:
Well apparently z>Bisu, people just noticed that too late and were still in the old mindset of Bisu>z.
Zergs have finally learned how to take advantage of the weaknesses of the Bisu build and cosair dt/ cosair reaver play. If you ask me I think protoss needs to learn how to do one base strats against Zerg again and mix it up with FE builds..
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