Free, obvious. Sea, though I wouldn't be too surprised if Zero won. GGPlay, obvious. Light, MVP sucks. Sea/Light< Free, it's destination and I have a feeling Free will take it if it goes to ACE (for my Fantasy PL)
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
jaedong slumping? have u been living under a rock? even if u didnt watch skt vs lecaf u HAD 2 have heard about it. jaedong is on fire
Ya jaedong is definately slumping he had 1 1/2 bad weeks and is back on a 6/0 streak with wins over flash/bisu/fantasy....
The guy is on the savior express for sure!
EDIT: FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, some mother fucker had to go and say some stupid shit to make me waste my 3000..... SOB
Well, even against kal and sea and the first firebathero game, jaedog played a better then either Zero or Saint are capable of, who btw derive most of their wins from medicore gamers. Zero is on the road to being top 3-4 zergs for sure, but aside from the best mutalisk micro in the game he isn't on jd's level yet.
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
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On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
jaedong slumping? have u been living under a rock? even if u didnt watch skt vs lecaf u HAD 2 have heard about it. jaedong is on fire
Ya jaedong is definately slumping he had 1 1/2 bad weeks and is back on a 6/0 streak with wins over flash/bisu/fantasy....
The guy is on the savior express for sure!
EDIT: FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, some mother fucker had to go and say some stupid shit to make me waste my 3000..... SOB
Well, even against kal and sea and the first firebathero game, jaedog played a better then either Zero or Saint are capable of, who btw derive most of their wins from medicore gamers. Zero is on the road to being top 3-4 zergs for sure, but aside from the best mutalisk micro in the game he isn't on jd's level yet.
Saint plays very very good .... some times.
i cant tell if your mad at me or the other guy.....
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
jaedong slumping? have u been living under a rock? even if u didnt watch skt vs lecaf u HAD 2 have heard about it. jaedong is on fire
Ya jaedong is definately slumping he had 1 1/2 bad weeks and is back on a 6/0 streak with wins over flash/bisu/fantasy....
The guy is on the savior express for sure!
EDIT: FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, some mother fucker had to go and say some stupid shit to make me waste my 3000..... SOB
Well, even against kal and sea and the first firebathero game, jaedog played a better then either Zero or Saint are capable of, who btw derive most of their wins from medicore gamers. Zero is on the road to being top 3-4 zergs for sure, but aside from the best mutalisk micro in the game he isn't on jd's level yet.
Saint plays very very good .... some times.
It was strategy.
edit: On a serious note I'm drunk and not thinking straight. My friend is going away tomorrow for a week so we had new years early.
[QUOTE]On December 30 2008 14:28 sung_moon wrote: [QUOTE]On December 30 2008 14:16 AttackZerg wrote: [QUOTE]On December 30 2008 13:39 sung_moon wrote: [QUOTE]On December 30 2008 13:35 d(O.o)a wrote: [QUOTE]On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
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Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
On December 30 2008 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote: Dang, sung's already over 1k posts, um...Flash sucks?
i actually LR alot.... ill let that comment slide since i like jaedong and flash both
I can't tell if you're joking at my joking in which case we're good, or if you're no joking in which case we're secretly bad. >< Smiley face to the rescue! =]
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
jaedong slumping? have u been living under a rock? even if u didnt watch skt vs lecaf u HAD 2 have heard about it. jaedong is on fire
Ya jaedong is definately slumping he had 1 1/2 bad weeks and is back on a 6/0 streak with wins over flash/bisu/fantasy....
The guy is on the savior express for sure!
EDIT: FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, some mother fucker had to go and say some stupid shit to make me waste my 3000..... SOB
Well, even against kal and sea and the first firebathero game, jaedog played a better then either Zero or Saint are capable of, who btw derive most of their wins from medicore gamers. Zero is on the road to being top 3-4 zergs for sure, but aside from the best mutalisk micro in the game he isn't on jd's level yet.
Saint plays very very good .... some times.
i cant tell if your mad at me or the other guy.....
how about i get mad at everybody and you all bond over bitching about what a tyrant i am
I JUST BANNED EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT ON THE SITE IF U SNEAKED THROUGH AND CAN STILL POST PLZ POST SO I CAN BAN U
On December 30 2008 12:49 ShaperofDreams wrote: predictions: Saint< Free :Saint is a good zerg but free manhandled jaedong Sea > Zero : Zero is a good zerg, but Sea manhandled jaedong
Jaedong is slumping and both saint and zero are playing better than him right now.
jaedong slumping? have u been living under a rock? even if u didnt watch skt vs lecaf u HAD 2 have heard about it. jaedong is on fire
Ya jaedong is definately slumping he had 1 1/2 bad weeks and is back on a 6/0 streak with wins over flash/bisu/fantasy....
The guy is on the savior express for sure!
EDIT: FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, some mother fucker had to go and say some stupid shit to make me waste my 3000..... SOB
Well, even against kal and sea and the first firebathero game, jaedog played a better then either Zero or Saint are capable of, who btw derive most of their wins from medicore gamers. Zero is on the road to being top 3-4 zergs for sure, but aside from the best mutalisk micro in the game he isn't on jd's level yet.
Saint plays very very good .... some times.
i cant tell if your mad at me or the other guy.....
how about i get mad at everybody and you all bond over bitching about what a tyrant i am
I JUST BANNED EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT ON THE SITE IF U SNEAKED THROUGH AND CAN STILL POST PLZ POST SO I CAN BAN U
ok, aside from the fact that you have over 2k posts and berate ops for not posting direct links to streams, when some of them aren't even availible until gametime or right before, I mean comeon grow a pair, what kind of starcraft fan on tl.net doesn't know how they are going to watch proleague....
On December 30 2008 17:58 AttackZerg wrote: ok, aside from the fact that you have over 2k posts and berate ops for not posting direct links to streams, when some of them aren't even availible until gametime or right before, I mean comeon grow a pair, what kind of starcraft fan on tl.net doesn't know how they are going to watch proleague....
On December 30 2008 18:35 Sunyveil wrote: my god the DAUM sports page is so freakin easy I can't believe people are complaining about it who already know the drill -.-
After Saint couldn't kill any archons and Free lived to add in storm -_-;; I think Saint has far more than his fair share of work cut out for him to win -_-;;
On December 30 2008 19:08 SuperJongMan wrote: Zero is the coolest player on Stars. Free played like a hippo. How did he manage to blow such a strong lead...
i dont think he expected Saint to take both island expansions.
When Saint was holding the open field in front of his nat with lurkers... Free stood outside and did nothing. He managed to eventually take 12 after investing very heavily into it. But those same shuttles that took 12 did no harass elsewhere. Then Saint was too big and strong for Free to expand far away. -_-;; Zerg can smash a spread protoss to bits. Free went after 7, swarm hit 3.
So Free decided the best thing to do is to just die... and he did.
That was the most systematic controled ZvP I've seen in a long time. I loved his lurker wall outside his natural, and how he used that to snipe hydras and keep himself from being backed ino his choke.
Saint played really good that game. The nydus defence was also good. Free played solid, too solid, PvZ on that map with pro zerg macro requires economic harrass of some kind, unlike other maps which are bad for lategame zerg macro, andro encourages it.
On December 30 2008 19:47 SuperJongMan wrote: GGplay has lost 3 in a row. That means this one is ez peez win. Who's his opponant? O right, yeah, EZ win.
His last 3 Protoss opponents were: -Stork (do i need to explain this) -Tempest (capable of beating JD) -Horang2 (dunno about his PvZ, but apparently he beat Flash as well the same day he beat GGPlay)
On December 30 2008 19:55 SuperJongMan wrote: WoongJin has a badass Z line up. But their T line up is almost as bad as T1's Z line up. Almost, but not really.
MVP is not bad TT
But you're still right. If Woongjin had a better T lineup, they would be wrecking PL.
On December 30 2008 20:16 SuperJongMan wrote: ARGH!, he was so close to holding light's back. =( Fuckn Aye.
yeah, he was. i think he should've just consolidated his tanks back at home and waited. losing some wraiths to the gols at LighT's base was pretty bad too.
On December 30 2008 20:19 Sunyveil wrote: light continues his surprisingly successful season
Light is not a terrible player... he is consistently mediocre, if nothing else, which means generally he'll be able to beat most non-toptier players on any given day.
All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
On December 30 2008 20:27 oshibori_probe wrote: All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
Is this just a coincidence?
That's an awful lot of speculation. Interesting thought, though.
On December 30 2008 20:27 oshibori_probe wrote: All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
Is this just a coincidence?
That's an awful lot of speculation. Interesting thought, though.
I wouldent say its too much speculation. Both Lecaf and KTF are definately interested in getting some good toss in their teams. Depends if they are willing to play for a good toss (also note that right before July left MBC, both July and Pusan asked to be put on waiver because they wanted $$).
On December 30 2008 20:19 Sunyveil wrote: light continues his surprisingly successful season
Light is not a terrible player... he is consistently mediocre, if nothing else, which means generally he'll be able to beat most non-toptier players on any given day.
And clearly, free is toptier when he's on his game.
On December 30 2008 20:27 oshibori_probe wrote: All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
Is this just a coincidence?
MBC's team has a severe lack of talent coming through. Now that they are in a commanding position in proleague (or were) they're taking the time to experiment with other players and get them experience so when Pusan starts slumping theirs a good protoss to fill the void. Thats why shark/hyun have been playing and replaced saint last week and a bit when saint was largely raping shit up.
On December 30 2008 20:45 sashkata wrote: I'm a Woongjin and a free fan, but I didn't like that. A win is a win and I dont mind cheese from time to time, but this was too much.
oh shut up ya baby. i hate people who whine about cheese. a win is a win, especially in the pro games.
On December 30 2008 20:45 sashkata wrote: I'm a Woongjin and a free fan, but I didn't like that. A win is a win and I dont mind cheese from time to time, but this was too much.
I dunno, I'd rather have a cheesy victory than a 7 game losing streak and a slumping Free.
On December 30 2008 20:27 oshibori_probe wrote: All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
Is this just a coincidence?
MBC's team has a severe lack of talent coming through. Now that they are in a commanding position in proleague (or were) they're taking the time to experiment with other players and get them experience so when Pusan starts slumping theirs a good protoss to fill the void. Thats why shark/hyun have been playing and replaced saint last week and a bit when saint was largely raping shit up.
Well, I guess this is what happens when your team won't pay money to keep players. Oakland A's of Starcraft?
On December 30 2008 20:27 oshibori_probe wrote: All of a sudden after being one of the most prevalent players in MBC's lineup, Pusan vanishes from the lineup leaving a shitty Jaehoon to get raped game after game. Free agency becomes active in January, Pusan's name is listed as a free agent, and there are many teams that could use a strong protoss.
Is this just a coincidence?
MBC's team has a severe lack of talent coming through. Now that they are in a commanding position in proleague (or were) they're taking the time to experiment with other players and get them experience so when Pusan starts slumping theirs a good protoss to fill the void. Thats why shark/hyun have been playing and replaced saint last week and a bit when saint was largely raping shit up.
Playing Jaehoon isnt an experiment though, he has playing his fair share of games and exhibits pretty depressing results in all of them. Shark has been around for a good ammount of time so it isnt like they are just putting him in the lineup to see how he will do.
MBC has also lost a fair ammount of talent. First July leaves, and goes on to win a golden mouse, Then bisu leaves and wins himself an MSL. Then they take the thezerg, (who can actually perform quite well), and ship him off to SKT1.
On December 30 2008 20:45 sashkata wrote: I'm a Woongjin and a free fan, but I didn't like that. A win is a win and I dont mind cheese from time to time, but this was too much.
I dunno, I'd rather have a cheesy victory than a 7 game losing streak and a slumping Free.
True.
When he was going out it looked like he had no confidance at all. And than he pulls this. Proxy gate - Gas steal - Followed by dts lol in an ace match.
Like you sad, a win is a win and I'm happy for it, but still it was a bit much for my taste.
On December 31 2008 00:32 Organ wrote: Btw, Free's worst match-up is PvP by far. His PvT is pretty good.
Even the best P's right now don't have that great of a win percentage in their PvP. I think it's actually quite rare for any player to have a good win percentage in their mirror.