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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
November 22 2008 09:40 GMT
#901
And this guy just won't stop talking. It sounds like he's having a stake driven through his foot while he's speaking, it's almost like he's in pain or something. Or just really whiny or something.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 22 2008 09:40 GMT
#902
On November 22 2008 18:39 FieryBalrog wrote:
44 pages for TWO GAMES? Goddamn!

Go Bisu, I'm so nervous!


they were pretty long games, and we started on page 20 or 22 or something
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LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 22 2008 09:41 GMT
#903
I hope someone is telling Bisu about his reaver issues while on the break
SKT1 Fighting! <3
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
November 22 2008 09:41 GMT
#904
lol.....just start the 3rd game!!!
LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 22 2008 09:41 GMT
#905
"Feel Good Drag" is becoming one of my favorite songs because I hear it soo much
SKT1 Fighting! <3
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 22 2008 09:41 GMT
#906
On November 22 2008 18:41 LimitlessSky wrote:
I hope someone is telling Bisu about his reaver issues while on the break


Anyone remember best losing 2 key reavers?

yea i hope it's not best giving him advice xD
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#907
Whos winning????? !
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 09:44:41
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#908
On November 22 2008 18:37 Kwark wrote:
That game he had a build order advantage, going 13 core against JangBis 17 core. Faster core means faster range. Faster range means huge early game micro advantage which in turn means ramp contain if gate numbers are equal. That means that JangBi has to 2 gate, which he did, which in turn means that Bisu can get away with 1 gate pressure into exp into mass gate.
That small build order advantage can be extrapolated out as far as Bisu's much faster expo. Both players knew this, JangBi going mass goon and trying to break the exp before it had any chance to repay Bisu's investment in it. But Bisu's excellent micro to defend it won the game.

In short, the opening builds gave Bisu an economic advantage which could only be negated if JangBi outmicroed Bisu at a critical time. He couldn't.

Edit: But that doesn't mean luck was involved. Bisu proxied Destination in the semi finals. JangBi was always going to make a zealot to stay safe against any potential cheese and one lone zealot is no threat to a fast core build. Bisu exploited what JangBi knew about him.


Bisu's excellent micro wasn't what saved him against Jangbi's attack at his natural. Jangbi had already his own natural being built when he pushed so there wasn't much unit difference. And cancelling the Nexus and going for an all-in push would have been far too late at that point when Jangbi found out Bisu's quick expansion because Jangbi's expansion was halfway done.

Edit: The main mistake on Jangbi's part that game would have been backing away from the bridges, allowing Bisu to cross over and catch Jangbi's dragoons exposed in front of his zealots. But there was too much of a unit count difference that better positioning probably wouldn't have made a difference.
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#909
It's true that Jangbi messed up his storm timing by a few seconds. His HTs didn't quite have enough energy. By revealing his shuttle 3 seconds too early, he gave Bisu more than enough time to react.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#910
Yeah... BeSt coming in with a cocky face scares me now hahaha
SKT1 Fighting! <3
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#911
Hahaha, Paganini's theme la campanella from the last movement to his second violin concerto is playing....have they played so much classical music in any other final? Holy crap.
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#912
On November 22 2008 18:42 Tekin wrote:
Whos winning????? !

Tied at 1-1 so far.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 22 2008 09:42 GMT
#913
On November 22 2008 18:39 FieryBalrog wrote:
44 pages for TWO GAMES? Goddamn!

Go Bisu, I'm so nervous!

There was 20 pages before the games even started, and there was like 10 pages yesterday, so its not that much.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
November 22 2008 09:43 GMT
#914
Bisu could have done better with his reavers for sure, but he still did tons of damage with them in both the major battles, and that was obviously enough.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 22 2008 09:43 GMT
#915
On November 22 2008 18:42 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2008 18:42 Tekin wrote:
Whos winning????? !

Tied at 1-1 so far.

Thank you!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
November 22 2008 09:43 GMT
#916
On November 22 2008 18:38 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2008 18:37 Kwark wrote:
That game he had a build order advantage, going 13 core against JangBis 17 core. Faster core means faster range. Faster range means huge early game micro advantage which in turn means ramp contain if gate numbers are equal. That means that JangBi has to 2 gate, which he did, which in turn means that Bisu can get away with 1 gate pressure into exp into mass gate.
That small build order advantage can be extrapolated out as far as Bisu's much faster expo. Both players knew this, JangBi going mass goon and trying to break the exp before it had any chance to repay Bisu's investment in it. But Bisu's excellent micro to defend it won the game.

In short, the opening builds gave Bisu an economic advantage which could only be negated if JangBi outmicroed Bisu at a critical time. He couldn't.


woah do you mind doing this for all the games?

Game 1
Standard mirror PvP in which both players use solid safe builds.
Some trading of units.
Bisu's reavers die and the battle is a forgone conclusion.

Not so much metagame there really. Both players were playing very standard and very solid. They've never played before and were trying to get the measure of each other I guess. It was very even until a small micro mistake on Bisu's part cost him the game.
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LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 22 2008 09:43 GMT
#917
On November 22 2008 18:42 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2008 18:39 FieryBalrog wrote:
44 pages for TWO GAMES? Goddamn!

Go Bisu, I'm so nervous!

There was 20 pages before the games even started, and there was like 10 pages yesterday, so its not that much.


Well now we have the third match...and that could be more exciting since it will make someone closer to winning a third game and winning that trophy
SKT1 Fighting! <3
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 22 2008 09:44 GMT
#918
That girl has the most ridiculously big earrings.
LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 22 2008 09:44 GMT
#919
Who is that Kid and his Mother?
SKT1 Fighting! <3
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
November 22 2008 09:44 GMT
#920
man that girl is hot!
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