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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3333 Posts
October 23 2008 12:13 GMT
#621
GO GO BISU[SHIELD]!!!
김택용 Fighting!
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 23 2008 12:14 GMT
#622
JD's slump begin very early
Best[hyo] ftw
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 23 2008 12:14 GMT
#623
seriously if anyone thinks that wasn't a spectacular game by free, you need to realize that his defense that game was something no other protoss could have done at this moment
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
October 23 2008 12:14 GMT
#624
wtf bisu wearing a mask ?

he have sars ?
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#625
On October 23 2008 21:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2008 21:11 TheTyranid wrote:
On October 23 2008 21:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:
On October 23 2008 16:45 TheTyranid wrote:
(neither Nada nor Frozean stand much chance against him with the way he's been playing PvT lately)



In my opinion this is a ridiculous statement. Both NaDa and Frozean can beat Free. Every freaking progamer can beat another one. We saw so many upsets. Its okay to say that its unlikely for someone to win, but not standing a chance is just too much. We saw NaDa beat JangBi at Blizzcon who is easily as good as free in PvT, EASILY.

Yes I'm biased towards Terran and NaDa, but I also like free, but I fear Tornado Terran will still prevail.

Learn to read you terran fanboy . I said "much" chance, not "no" chance.


;PP Not much is nearly as bad as no chance ;P but nice write up!

Thank you. I meant to say he was a big favourite. My wording was off then.
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#626
On October 23 2008 21:14 fanofbest wrote:
JD's slump begin very early

ur kidding right.
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#627
Darn...Go NaDa!
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#628
On October 23 2008 21:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
seriously if anyone thinks that wasn't a spectacular game by free, you need to realize that his defense that game was something no other protoss could have done at this moment


except Sea[Shield] playing protoss of course
Terran & Potato Salad.
Razii
Profile Joined October 2008
United States88 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#629
On October 23 2008 21:14 Disarray wrote:
wtf bisu wearing a mask ?

he have sars ?

He is sick.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 23 2008 12:15 GMT
#630
Yeah, he's sick.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 12:24:20
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#631
On October 23 2008 21:05 TheTyranid wrote:
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On October 23 2008 21:01 Carnac wrote:
no one who hides behind this many sunks and lurkers during midgame should be allowed to win

justice has been served


Savior[gm]


And what are you supposed to do when toss gets an army advantage and map control ? You take as many bases as possible and secure them .So what that a zerg turteled behind sunks and lurks .When toss gets a base it gets cannoned whored like there is no tommorow with templars as well . So i don't see what the problem is in investing in static defence if you can use the resourses and win obviously Jaedong didn't , but it still a viable strategy to turtle as zerg not only with toss and terran .... If you use your shit cost effectively you can still win even if the toss has a strong army and map control .

You just have to know that reavers >sunkens and swarm>cannons

(Look at Dinot vs Rondo in the TSL game 3 for example ...)

On the game i think if Jaedong had updates for hidras , he could have switched more early to mass hidra /lurkers + mutas and dont stay with mele units just pick random archons and reavers with hidras until you can mole down a bit buy bit but it is insanly hard to pull of .
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#632
surgeon-toss
1000 at least.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#633
Oh lord bisu is sick?
Freedom is a stranger
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#634
On October 23 2008 21:13 Plexa wrote:
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On October 23 2008 21:11 Disarray wrote:
On October 23 2008 21:09 Kallepettersen wrote:
On October 23 2008 21:08 Kyuki wrote:
JD made the decision to make hydra snipers to late.. I was just waiting for it, and when he did it was too late.

Anyways, it was a great game, which I think slipped out of JDs hands because he simply played too safe.

But seriously, how can you kill 20 Archons and 8 reavers? :s

you can't, if the protoss doesnt fuck up


i really hate that. it seems to be the only matchup (besides mass carriers in PvT on certian maps.... and even thats been proven wrong) where one side actually has a chance to build an invincible army
To be fair, its really hard to actually build an army like that thus if you sit there and let them build such an army its your own fault..


i would never argue that, but that counter (stop them from getting it in the first place) can be used against almost any strategy, and is still a weak argument for one side having that sort of army. altho im not sure what hey could do to fix it, besides maybe making archons not plague-immune, or mayking some zerg unit similarly splash or storm immune.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#635
On October 23 2008 21:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
seriously if anyone thinks that wasn't a spectacular game by free, you need to realize that his defense that game was something no other protoss could have done at this moment
It was a spectacular game, but his defense wasn't the best (still good though). His gameplan and strategy and how he kept his cool under pressure was beyond phenomenal imo
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#636
NINJATOSS Hwaiting !
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#637
nope,im not kidding
Best[hyo] ftw
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#638
On October 23 2008 21:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
seriously if anyone thinks that wasn't a spectacular game by free, you need to realize that his defense that game was something no other protoss could have done at this moment

free was incredible but he was put in a position where jaedong should have been able to beat perfect play.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#639
May Auir strengthen our Hero.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
GarlicPepper
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States563 Posts
October 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#640
was the mask Bisu's idea or did they make him because they didn't want him to spread anything? o_o
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