EPT[PL] SKT1 vs LeCaF - Page 13
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CUBAe-Sports
Cuba82 Posts
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Incognitodies
United Kingdom184 Posts
On October 07 2008 20:36 Naib wrote: Gah  The fuck BeSt made the poorest decisions I've ever seen in pro PvZ (Just like Bisu vs July in their first MSL group stages game).This muta -> masshydra seems to be somewhat of the new trend, with later incorporated lurkers...I don't find it that hard to deal with, honestly. Lurkling is more troubling...I don't understand why he made that many goons instead of just a handful + temps. 5-6 goons for free shots while the massive hydra army tries to dodge zealot blades + storms are just enough...without storm it's a massacre, too many units lots for nothing Well I think Best played right into JD's hands by morphing 3 archons to combat the mutas so he didn't really have any storms to fight with when he moved out. 2 would have been plenty enough to deal with the threat really. EDIT: Everyone made the point before me... | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
On October 07 2008 20:39 AttackZerg wrote: 4 archons vs JDs mutas results in a best loss. 3 archons vs Julys mutas results in a bisu loss. Maybe Sairs/reaver/goon is good yes? I think sair/reaver is an option on this map, or maybe just 2gates hardcore zealot rush, I will do it anytime | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Best made templars vs hydra, but he HAD to archon them because jaedong was flying around trying to snipe templars... Jaedong u played awesome GOGO | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
JDs micro is just amazing! Man I love his play.. So inspiring! | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On October 07 2008 20:39 arbiter_md wrote: I don't understand why best continues to make archons to fight muta, and he could have done sairs, saving the templars and storms for hydras. And of course the game was over when he lost the unfinished third. ZvP is so simple, just make three hatches and deny protoss from getting third with mass army. In the meantime expand and that's it. GG. This is dumb =( It was 5 hats then 6. And not having a good unit mix was bests fault also. And for those of you talking about JDs eco advantage .... His 12 hat started at the same time as bests 14 nexus ..... and no early preasure..... | ||
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CUBAe-Sports
Cuba82 Posts
Fantasy>BackHo Hyuk<Lomo Best<Jaedong Final??? | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
 (although I dont understand shit  ) | ||
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StylishVODs
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 07 2008 20:35 NahLGaE wrote: gg. god i hate jd so freaking much. more than anyone else >< Know why people were saying JD would win now? >_> | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
First, he didn't know at the begining if the muta will come or hydras. That's always and unknown thing for protoss fighting a good zerg. So, he could have done sairs risking to get with hydras at his doors, or could have done more templars with the other risk. This is the first guess that toss has to do in order to survive. When the muta were in his base, it was late to make sairs because of scorges, of course. And those cannons die in seconds. This way muta become so cost effective at the beginning that it's impossible for toss not to lose something. Second, he tried to expand too early, I think. I thought it is a good idea to expand while making pressure, but it didn't work. Probably should have stayed in two bases until he had a good army. | ||
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Ash
Malaysia1978 Posts
On October 07 2008 20:39 arbiter_md wrote: I don't understand why best continues to make archons to fight muta, and he could have done sairs, saving the templars and storms for hydras. And of course the game was over when he lost the unfinished third. ZvP is so simple, just make three hatches and deny protoss from getting third with mass army. In the meantime expand and that's it. GG. you should definitely try ZvPing nony first | ||
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Danka
Peru1018 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7819 Posts
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i37.tinypic.com/21oy1hk.png) On October 02 2008 09:53 jwd241224 wrote: How did Lecaf's matches against T1 go last season? Oh shit... 3-0 3-0 Jaedong will be lucky if his team lasts long enough for him to get owned by BeSt in the fourth set... | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On October 07 2008 21:14 arbiter_md wrote: OK, maybe we will try to find out what mistakes were done by Best. First, he didn't know at the begining if the muta will come or hydras. That's always and unknown thing for protoss fighting a good zerg. So, he could have done sairs risking to get with hydras at his doors, or could have done more templars with the other risk. This is the first guess that toss has to do in order to survive. When the muta were in his base, it was late to make sairs because of scorges, of course. And those cannons die in seconds. This way muta become so cost effective at the beginning that it's impossible for toss not to lose something. Second, he tried to expand too early, I think. I thought it is a good idea to expand while making pressure, but it didn't work. Probably should have stayed in two bases until he had a good army. yeah...i also think he expanded to early....all in all 'when u r in doubt ' : LECAFFFFFF ftw! | ||
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