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[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4
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While I do consider Flash to be the greatest of all-time, by a margin, I do not personally know that he is for sure the best Terran player right now, this event has me doubting him, for the first time in a long time. Snow has been amazing forever and is capable of beating nearly every terran player in a match. I feel like tonight we find out which Flash we are getting in this ASL, are we getting the Magnus Carlsen of Craft or are we getting a strong player past his prime. For comparison Snow imo has been near his all-time prime for a while. What an exciting match. I really wish the maps this season didn't feel so advantageous for terran but after what Soma did on the last years maps, I guess the anti-Soma balancing has had the desired effect? If Flash wins, the Finals could be Soma vs Flash which would really push craft forward strategically. If Snow wins he has a chance at a zerg redemption arc against the best zerg of RN, Soma. Watching JD vs Light last night, I wondered in g1 "Could Flash today do this?" I am truly excited for either of these players to reach the next level. Hope PvT gets some movement in the meta as well. I imagine that Flash has exact timestamps for when reavers can appear burned into his eyelids and will have some methodically thought out contingencies. Hoping both players get to show their best craft possible. | ||
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Maybe 3-1. No 3rd World... GG EDIT: WILL* roll Snow 3-0... looking forward to waking up tomorrow and watching it  | ||
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Obi Snow you're my only hope 🙏 Snow fighting!~~~ | ||
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On May 05 2026 15:45 Rainalcar wrote: If flash wins, it will be 3 seeded terran next season. Time to bring back Third World. He will not play in the next season because this is "the last ASL of him". So, we have a wild-card like many years ago, we usually do wild-card for losers from Quarterfinals. HERO, tulbo, JD, and SnOw will compete for a seed that FlaSh left. That was the way Sharp who got in seed group before. | ||
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Soulforged
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And historically, that makes me worried. He's usually on fire in one matchup in offline, not both, and it doesn't switch quickly. The recent bo13 vs Light also doesn't help increase confidence. And, of course, it is Flash, who'll prepare stuff, to the point of blind counters if necessary...and it's terran maps... I'll prefer to have low expectations and have the chance of being pleasantly surprised by the series. | ||
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On May 05 2026 18:23 SCRVN wrote: I don't think Match Point and Jane Doe are Terran maps. Snow chose them, but statistically they're neutral. Flash chose maps 2 & 4 which are statistically heavily terran favoured. So overall the series maps lean terran | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:08 prosatan wrote: what the hell is going on with the commentator on the left ? he looks dark / grey / brown..... Wasnt this caster fighting Cancer no long ? | ||
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prosatan
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On May 05 2026 19:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Wasnt this caster fighting Cancer no long ? sorry to hear this.. | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:27 gravity wrote: Flash has had a lot of tanks all game Well not anymore | ||
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prosatan
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GG snow 1-0 | ||
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- Build Barrack outside - No defend dts - Timing push | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:33 Peeano wrote: After that first failed attack by Snow, Flash should have built a wraith or 2 and timing attacked with that or just not fear Snow mid game as much and take a 3rd and do some vultures drops into a 180-200 push. I think the fact that Snow lost 3 goons almost for free and got his shuttle / reaver hurt is exactly what made Flash push as hard as he did and reinforced the original plan. Snow already had his 3rd established by that point, turtling would be a bad choice imo. | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:35 True_Spike wrote: I think the fact that Snow lost 3 goons almost for free and got his shuttle / reaver hurt is exactly what made Flash push as hard as he did and reinforced the original plan. Snow already had his 3rd established by that point, turtling would be a bad choice imo. Well he did botch his gol control a bit not sniping that red shuttle, but couldn't tell if that was because of lack of vision or lack of gol range. I just think Flash shouldn't fear Snow mid game, Flash has been pushing reaver Protoss in similar manner lately (but those guys don't have the goon control Snow does.(Bisu for example)) | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:37 Rainalcar wrote: What was the point of that hidden probe? To check the exact timing of a possible very fast third cc. Changes the play of Protoss a lot | ||
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Soulforged
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On one hand, that is what Flash does at times. On another? Doesn't speak too well of his confidence. | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:48 Gorsameth wrote: Snow going for the double expand to try and catch back up Good idea if Flash stays turtled up for too long, but surely Flash will know this is Snow's plan. | ||
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His goons were really late and range wasn't ordered due to losing all the mining time. He would still be behind even if he pulled on time to save the nexus with 5 goon/probes | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:51 Gorsameth wrote: Snow doing a really good job picking off tanks tho, agree... flash is microing bad his tanks | ||
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Peeano
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Poll: Recommend Snow vs Flash Game 2? Yes (6) If you have time (5) No (3) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Snow vs Flash Game 2? | ||
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On May 05 2026 19:55 Terrorbladder wrote: Flash's playstyle has always been "I don't need efficient micro if I'm vastly outnumbering the opponent" his macro is on point ! | ||
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Peeano
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On May 05 2026 19:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Very obvious win for Flash there. Snow throwing away all three of his first dragoons during that bunker rush defense was really bad. Those losses were def bad. I believe Snow was expecting more follow up from Flash quicker because of those 3 losses, so he made more goons before Nexus to defend the 2nd wave or something. When that didn't come I still think he shoulda went for robo before Nex tho. He had the gas. Double nex just felt like it would only work on X-spawn. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 05 2026 19:55 Terrorbladder wrote: Flash's playstyle has always been "I don't need efficient micro if I'm vastly outnumbering the opponent" this is true in BW in general, if you macro perfectly longer you can just win, not counting a few cheeses. | ||
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johanes
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its not about macro vs macro, its about where the focus is the most effective at the time | ||
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(maybe flash will show me why lol) | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:06 Peeano wrote: Nice, double armory~ how the hell he knows ? starsense ! | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:06 gravity wrote: 2 base carrier is a bit of a surprise from Snow sometimes we gotta respect rock | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Bro this map is so cheatin for terran. actually unreal. its stupid bad and I'm surprised snow didn't veto it. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 05 2026 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's a lot of goliaths. snow has fuck all ground army, might as well just focus on goliaths for the only real threat on the map. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:14 BLinD-RawR wrote: snow has fuck all ground army, might as well just focus on goliaths for the only real threat on the map. Totally agree. Flash's army comp is perfect here lol. | ||
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prosatan
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On May 05 2026 20:15 gravity wrote: So many gols they can't even get out of the base :| indeed hahahaha | ||
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Soulforged
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Letting the force that kill the 4th retreat half alive after was game ending. | ||
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prosatan
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GJ FLASH! | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Snow was just too greedy, too fast I think. Double expand with only a small, immobile army. Greedy ? flash has like 7-8 factories at 7 minutes bro. This map is just giving terran a free win in the series. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On May 05 2026 20:07 razorsuKe wrote: Guess he showed you indeed :pfinally snow pulling out the OP unit, dunno why it hasn't made an appearance this ASL (maybe flash will show me why lol) | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:17 Pit667 wrote: lol, prosagi going carries.. still lose xD I believe its pusagi. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:17 a-game wrote: I don't get why snow went for such a cheesy carrier rush 😢 What would you do Vs cc first? It's his only chance. And cc first cannot be punished even with standard play here. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:19 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i dont even know. Does snow goes 11 nexus now ? proxy 2gate or cannon rush | ||
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Flash is a monster. My questions has been answered. This dude is still just incredible. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:20 Rainalcar wrote: We had one serious protoss in ro8, and we might have zero in ro4. BW continues on its steady path of becoming a 2+1 race RTS We starting early today. | ||
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That is super all in and instant loss Vs standard play on Jane doe. Who knows would it even work Vs cc first with the up ramp wall. | ||
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Canon rush bro ? | ||
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But it's true. We're very close to having really only 2 races capable of winning ASL. Let alone multiple times. | ||
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flash doing the N scout | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:16 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: What makes it so Terran favored? The gas expansion behind the main can only be approached by air units from one direction?Greedy ? flash has like 7-8 factories at 7 minutes bro. This map is just giving terran a free win in the series. | ||
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be the impossible eon. be the impossible! | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:26 Terrorbladder wrote: What makes it so Terran favored? The gas expansion behind the main can only be approached by air units from one direction? Terran eco is untouchable at the start of the game offer him to get 3 command centers so early and you cant punish it. Eco goes skyhigh so quick that you cant do too much. Then the map is also so short that in 2 moves you are already sufocating your opponent expansions.Is just terrible for pvt specially. | ||
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shuttle is down | ||
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this defense has gone pretty good for him | ||
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GAME 5 BABY !!!!!! | ||
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That game was fkn awesome. With everything on the line Snow micros on the edge of a blade. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:40 Zergxhx wrote: The intensity of this match is approaching that of Tulbo vs Leta. ))))) | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:40 a-game wrote: Seems kinda sloppy anyways I'm happy snow won, game 5 baby! 🍿 You should teach them how to not play sloppy gosu | ||
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Sn0w played with complete confidence in that situation. Even dropping probes, he played with confidence. And the gdm reaver walking within a micron of a siege tanks range, over and over. After Flash was able to no turrent 2 gol repel the early shuttle, I thought the push would just be too juiced. -------- Edit: this match has me emotionally wrecked. lol | ||
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Poll: Flash build Expand (3) 14 cc (2) Proxy (0) 5 total votes Your vote: Flash build | ||
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That posture just doesn't look comfortable, and bad to play longer stretches of time with. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:42 TMNT wrote: Why didn't he have Shuttle speed there though. Whole game. With speed he could have dismantled that push much cleaner. And it's not like something you can forget either, it feels very awful to have to control a slow Shuttle. Harder to fit in a 4gate into instant citadel as opposed to 6 gate before citadel, probably. Gas constraint at a timing when you want it, better things to do later. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:42 TMNT wrote: Why didn't he have Shuttle speed there though. Whole game. With speed he could have dismantled that push much cleaner. And it's not like something you can forget either, it feels very awful to have to control a slow Shuttle. What I'm about to say maybe stupid af, but it seems like .... it is easier to control slow shuttles for what he was doing. Seems crazy, but it really seemed to me slower unit, less accidentally antiair shots. | ||
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Snow could probably close the series already had he gone for 3 bases instead of 4 in the Jane Doe game. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:47 TMNT wrote: it does feel like he is going for brute force overwhelming his opponent builds yesAnyway Flash isn't looking as strong as I thought this season. Dropping a 14CC game vs JD and now 2 games vs Snow. Moreover, his wins feel more 'build wins' rather than 'skill wins', if that makes any sense. Snow could probably close the series already had he gone for 3 bases instead of 4 in the Jane Doe game. | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:47 Peeano wrote: Close spawn AGAIN btw lol this map horizontal isnt close its like circuit | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:52 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: using shuttle to scout is an interesting concept lol I mean everyone and their grandma knows Snows gonna play reaver so why be secretive about it xd | ||
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On May 05 2026 20:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: im a bit worried about SNow expansion position. it seems to be very accessible for flash to attack it. confused why he went for mineral only instead of anything else | ||
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its not over yet snake | ||
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gravity
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prosatan
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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gravity
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 05 2026 21:00 alypse wrote: uhm hope I didn't speak too soon lol snow is way too far behind to catch up and flash isn't the kind to fuck up | ||
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hasuprotoss
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gravity
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razorsuKe
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he was 1 step ahead the entire time XD | ||
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konadora
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ㅇㅅㄱ | ||
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TheAceOfHearts
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a-game
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On May 05 2026 21:03 razorsuKe wrote: flash jumped back before snow gg'd he was 1 step ahead the entire time XD Lol similar thing happened in light vs JD yesterday | ||
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Peeano
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On May 05 2026 21:03 prosatan wrote: flash zipping his pants haha Flash's secret weapon really is unbutton AND unzip. | ||
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Soulforged
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Can't imagine how shaky you get trying to do precise micro over and over in an offline setting (for both players). Sure, they're very used to it, but that's still going to be a crazy adrenaline spike. | ||
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ZiZzy
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On May 05 2026 21:04 Peeano wrote: Flash's secret weapon really is unbutton AND unzip. He's probably one of the rare noble ones that play better when only in underwear | ||
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a-game
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Congrats flash (light vs flash gonna be a boring semifinal tho) | ||
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Sirris17
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On May 05 2026 21:03 konadora wrote: holy shit what a fucking insane game by both players ㅇㅅㄱ It was incredibly high level play | ||
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prosatan
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On May 05 2026 21:04 Peeano wrote: Flash's secret weapon really is unbutton AND unzip. ) flash | ||
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razorsuKe
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On May 05 2026 21:06 a-game wrote: Snow is a weird guy, seems very inconsistent, made a lot of weird decisions that game Congrats flash (light vs flash gonna be a boring semifinal tho) he needs to 1) get reavers and 2) not upgrade speed shuttles LOL somehow he always plays better (and wins) with just slow shuttles | ||
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Soulforged
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Reavers instantly disappearing didn't help though. Like, godly reaver micro in last fight may have been a close hold (though vulture reinforcement probably would get damage with all goons dead) | ||
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mine is 2/4 meh.... | ||
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On May 05 2026 21:08 prosatan wrote: how is your LB in the RO 4 guys ?? mine is 2/4 meh.... 4/4 assuming you meant ro 8 | ||
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On May 05 2026 21:08 prosatan wrote: how is your LB in the RO 4 guys ?? mine is 2/4 meh.... I trolled my LB picking YSC T_T | ||
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On May 05 2026 21:04 True_Spike wrote: Even those the reavers were mostly good accross the series, it still felt like Snow's control of them was a bit below of what he usually shows. And I think it cost him 2 games. Fantastic series nonetheless! Shuttle Reaver micro is very fine margin stuff, and most importantly, and this is something people don't often acknowledge, its effectiveness depends on the level of your opponent. Tanks in siege mode outrange Reavers, so basically if you want your Reavers to be effective, it depends on your opponent not leapfrogging tanks perfectly and/or not focus firing. That is, of course, after you control your Shuttle well enough. Snow gets into this status because he micros his Shuttle best among all Protoss players, while no Terran players can consistently achieve close to perfection in Tank control. But sometimes they do, and you'd think the likes of Flash and Light do it more often than others. | ||
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The only real storylines now would be crazy Leta upset or Flash beating the best players of each race in the bracket? | ||
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On May 05 2026 21:17 Simplistik wrote: Mmm. I dunno. This has been the worst Ro8 in quite some time. First week was a loss. Yesterday had some cool games, but anticlimactic finish. No long or close games today. The last game had a long fight, but the game was already decided before that really got going. The only real storylines now would be crazy Leta upset or Flash beating the best players of each race in the bracket? It wouldn't be an awful way to finally retire from offline tournaments. | ||
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Uldridge
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JD, Light, Flash, Snow had huge hype where the experience itself can never match. Even Leta vs YSC, the underdog match had huge hype around it. Things like that tend to make people feel underwhelmed because of it. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines685 Posts
soma is the worst zerg to go 2port wraith against... in his 33 game marathon session against rush he went burrow so wraiths do no damage, into crazy zerg, with queen+ensnare on the way to hive to completely shutdown the wraiths | ||
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Maks
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It’s crazy that Protoss has gone title-less for nine consecutive seasons. The last time a Protoss won was Mini back in 2021, five years ago. | ||
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Rainalcar
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Soma beats Leta Light beats Flash Soma wins Reality Soma beats Leta Flash beats Light Flash wins Either way, we have 3T qualifying for next ASL ro16 and all the talk of T favoured maps proving correct. | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia467 Posts
On May 05 2026 21:25 Maks wrote: I predicted 3-1 scores for both series, but JD and Snow put up a better fight than I expected. Still, the final outcomes were predictable. It’s crazy that Protoss has gone title-less for nine consecutive seasons. The last time a Protoss won was Mini back in 2021, five years ago. Nothing crazy about it. Which P won it so far? Shuttle in ages immemorial lol Rain in objectively super P favoured season And mini, barely That's it? In how many seasons? | ||
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PolAlt
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Quarter Finals: Snow, currently top Protoss, GOAT of PvT. Semi Finals: Light, currently best Terran and best TvT (except Flash). Finals(if no upsets): Soma, current champion and likely overall the best Zerg atm. A proper sendoff. | ||
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AttackZerg
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Can Soma Retain his champion title. He has all ZvT's on Slightly T favored maps for the rest of the event. Can Leta pull off the most unexpected ro4 performance of the season? Yep he already did that. Can he go further? Can Light prove he is the best terran, He beat a near soma level JD, he now faces the GOAT, Can he rip the title out of Flashes hands? Can Flash enter and win a tournament at whim, decide to win solely so that he can retire even more acclaimed and do it despite incredible physical hardships limiting his practice? There are 50 billion ways to look at the tournament we have and be excited. | ||
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prosatan
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Ro8 Sirris sryy | ||
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Gippy
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But that's Flash for you, he scanned it and knew that was the perfect time to strike. | ||
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https://www.youtube.com/@dotube/videos | ||
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Postalpj
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On May 05 2026 21:35 AttackZerg wrote: The people saying no storylines ... like wtf ... Can Soma Retain his champion title. He has all ZvT's on Slightly T favored maps for the rest of the event. Can Leta pull off the most unexpected ro4 performance of the season? Yep he already did that. Can he go further? Can Light prove he is the best terran, He beat a near soma level JD, he now faces the GOAT, Can he rip the title out of Flashes hands? Can Flash enter and win a tournament at whim, decide to win solely so that he can retire even more acclaimed and do it despite incredible physical hardships limiting his practice? There are 50 billion ways to look at the tournament we have and be excited. The real storyline is that Protoss continues to get owned, and that asl put its thumb on the scale to try and get flash a send off win. Storylines that are forced by those that have the power to control things isn’t interesting. Next asl will be like the previous one. Maps that people say is p favored, but they can’t explain why(because they aren’t) and Zerg will win again. I have been watching matches before replays existed. But I have really lost interest because every year it’s more and more obvious Protoss has huge weaknesses compared to the other factions. Rooting for the underdog can be fun, but is also predictable and tiring. Brood war won’t get patched so I am basically checked out after all these years. Congrats to the z and t players for their brilliant choice. I cannot imagine anyone serious about winning games playing Protoss | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On May 05 2026 23:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: I understand the frustration. But at the same time Snow was really close to win vs Flash. I totally blame this loss on that free win on Jane Doe. Sadly we wouldnt know how well he could have done vs Soma in ASL with such mappool. I have the feeling the maps are a bit more helpful to him compared to last season when it comes to pvz. But yeah hard to tell. ASL put all the eggs in Terran Basket to change the race winner this season. It is what it is. His Jane Doe build was a pure throw. All he had to do was play standard. | ||
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