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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 22 2025 03:24 GMT
#121
Rain played so badly in the 2nd match where he had tunnel vision and just couldn't deal with the mutas. His storms on the mutas were always wasteful, the corsairs didn't do much, and he refused to get a DA. After that match, I thought that there ain't no way he would win the 3rd given that it already extended to the lategame where Action almost always wins - behold the heroDT thanks to all the LOL he played. Goodness gracious.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey741 Posts
April 22 2025 07:18 GMT
#122
Semi is an option
On April 22 2025 11:18 TornadoSteve wrote:
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On April 22 2025 09:57 HOLYBATS wrote:
Queen can win this one. He has a good chance against SK.


But he wont face him unless he reach the finals, no

reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2215 Posts
April 22 2025 09:00 GMT
#123
OMFG that last game!!!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands956 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-22 10:06:32
April 22 2025 10:06 GMT
#124
On April 22 2025 03:39 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
i mean is it a big deal to make 1 sunken and 1 overlord at each expo?

only soulkey seems to always notice dt by some black magic

Soulkey's oversight and awareness is exactly why he is the best player. he also delibetately plays at a slightly lower apm because its less mentally straining. Action for example almost exclusively macros with 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh and wont often look at bases. Soulkey tends to look at bases more because he relies less on that macro cycle key sequence.
JDON MY SOUL!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey440 Posts
April 22 2025 15:47 GMT
#125
On April 22 2025 19:06 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
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On April 22 2025 03:39 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
i mean is it a big deal to make 1 sunken and 1 overlord at each expo?

only soulkey seems to always notice dt by some black magic

Soulkey's oversight and awareness is exactly why he is the best player. he also delibetately plays at a slightly lower apm because its less mentally straining. Action for example almost exclusively macros with 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh and wont often look at bases. Soulkey tends to look at bases more because he relies less on that macro cycle key sequence.

I think you mean lack of oversight.
Sad for Bisu & Action. My faves. Bring down Zero and Rain in Ro8.
Turrican
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11060 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 07:09:23
April 23 2025 07:07 GMT
#126
What a ridiculous final match. Protoss winning pvz is like watching someone squat in the 300s. Felt like the Zerg timing jumping up to 4 bases was some build edge.on the flip, it feels like they get tunnel vision on the tools they have.

Bisu definitely below par today. Queen feels. Bit slept on. He was in absurd form like 2 years ago. He has some pedigree at this point.

Not excited for group D. ;_; gonna be brutal. Cmon Snow.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
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Last Edited: 2025-04-23 13:56:53
April 23 2025 13:54 GMT
#127
On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2842 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 14:50:44
April 23 2025 14:46 GMT
#128
Oh right, now that I realised Action always seems to gg pretty quick. He had almost a shock gg vs Best in the quarterfinals a couple of seasons ago. I don't think he had a chance to come back in those games though. But he tends to give up as soon as he loses a big fight. Most players tend to fight back a little bit until the Zerg natural is completely swamped by Protoss. Not for Action. He's the anti Fantasy when it comes to gg timing lol.

Also Rain did say in the post match interview that he thought about typing gg a couple of times in the last game. But then he thought about all that League experience and decided to built a hero DT to go solo bottom. Paid off handsomely.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2842 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-23 15:12:58
April 23 2025 15:12 GMT
#129
By the way Queen is in insane form this month. 36-17 ZvP (68%) and 28-12 ZvT (70%). He's also leading 2-0 vs Soulkey.

Since last week, he's on a roll of 21-1. The only dropped game against Flash.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1614 Posts
April 23 2025 18:51 GMT
#130
On April 23 2025 22:54 Artas1984 wrote:
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On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

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On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.


I noticed how he only macros up and go out hoping to overwhelm his opponent, got humbled by ZerO for that badly.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2842 Posts
April 23 2025 20:36 GMT
#131
On April 24 2025 03:51 iFU.pauline wrote:
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On April 23 2025 22:54 Artas1984 wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 21 2025 21:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Do we still even have any Bisu super fans on TL?


yes but they can't defend this shit.


No they can not, including me. Bisu is 36, that means he is naturally washed up, and he said he took a 100 day chill before ASL kicked in? Well i guess that counts too. Still...

After some time i stoped expecting anything from Bisu and am glad that i did, so that i do not get disappointed anymore whenever he does his classic shity throws. Everything bad that happened today with Bisu i predicted in my head.

On April 21 2025 20:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
Poor Rain, completely outclassed. Boring gameplay, hope he doesn't make it, would be a good riddance.


Ha ha! You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my: i hope that Mini will lose all his games forward this season!

Even in his defeat vs. Queen, Rain played pretty well! Notice how he was moving his army back and forth, securing his expansions on time and not abandoning them? Him never overextending, but at the same time chipping pieces of Queen's army while keeping a good focus on micro and hitting the majority of storms. It is just that it was not enough - one great player outclassed another great player.

The big difference i notice between Rain and Action is - Action tends to give up too early, when there is still some chance to come back - for fans this is disappointing provided that this is live TV. Rain, on the other hand, perseveres to the end in dire odds and gives the fans the best final match of the whole round.


I noticed how he only macros up and go out hoping to overwhelm his opponent, got humbled by ZerO for that badly.

Strange that you didn't notice in that game Queen also only macro'd up and didn't even have to go out. But somehow that is not as boring as going out to attack and wouldn't be a good riddance.

Sarcasm aside, were you not aware of, or SCTV casters didn't mention that Rain overbuilt anti-air defense because he saw Queen's third gas and thought he would go mass Muta Scourge, only for Queen to switch to Hydras immediately, delaying Rain's ground army, so that by the time he was able to move out, he had to play the long macro game vs Zerg.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1614 Posts
April 23 2025 21:13 GMT
#132
Zero is pretty dry as well, his fpvod are stylish though, but that's about it, never was a big fan of him. I don't think the game context makes a difference to what I said, Rain played the same way vs Zero and Action, it is just his style.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44191 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-24 02:50:35
April 24 2025 02:49 GMT
#133
Queen making it out first is kinda expected looking at his recent form but holy moly Action had it and Rain still like gritted through all it and made it.

That one DT murdering all his drones is crazy lol

Bisu's showcase is just disappointing tbqh
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